Innocuous things that make you irrationally angry (a list thread)

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I realize they're trying to stop people from making it "password01" and stuff, but why are we even doing this? I promise you, neither I nor my email are that important, and most of our other systems are only accessible on the premises. Are you worried that the UPS guy is going to try to find out how many widgets we just sold?

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 14:42 (fifteen years ago)

Really complicated password req's: Smarter or dumber than keyfobs with a code number that changes every 60 seconds?

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 14:46 (fifteen years ago)

As someone who has to occasionally deal with computer security issues I'm just shaking my head and reserving comment here.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

Well that's good then

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

Oh c'mon, what?

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:07 (fifteen years ago)

My IT friends all get butthurt too when I complain about the needless difficulty of passwords, but c'mon, there has to be a middle ground between "password01" and insanely complicated procedures that cause you to spend half an hour every 90 days trying to come up with a password that fits the weird criteria precisely.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:08 (fifteen years ago)

btw I work in IT and EVERYONE in my dept also thinks complicated passwords are counter-productive precisely because of the tendency for people to write them down.

You know how long it takes to brute force break a password right?

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:20 (fifteen years ago)

ur just cranky cos of ur sore foot

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:22 (fifteen years ago)

I hate when stupid insignificant web sites make you register for stuff then present you with a visual showing your password going from "weak" to "very strong" - you just keep typing till it goes green then click the "remember password" button on the browser - making it all completely pointless.

Our password criteria at work isn't too annoying. I was getting IA at the fact that it reminds me every day for 18 days that it's about to run out.

onimotopoeic (onimo), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:24 (fifteen years ago)

Think I may have already mentioned this in here but since it happened again this morning and made me IA all over again, I guess it bears repeating - you are a horrible human being if you insist on bringing a full-size newspaper onto a crowded commuter train and read it all spread wide open instead of folding it.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:26 (fifteen years ago)

yeah those people should be shot imo

a fucking stove just fell on my foot. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:27 (fifteen years ago)

The third time he elbowed me in the side to turn a page it was all I could do to keep from ripping it out of his hands and throwing it on the ground.

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

you just keep typing till it goes green then click the "remember password" button on the browser - making it all completely pointless.

Not at all, because you're assuming that passwords are to keep it safe on your end. Longer passwords keep it safe on their end. Or safer, at least. The programmers still have to not be idiots and store it in a dumb way like Gawker media did. Still, anyone with a complex password would still be pretty secure even with their database being leaked.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:34 (fifteen years ago)

If password strength is more important on the tech side and not on the user side, why don't we all just assign random numbers and letters and keep a post-it on our computer with the codes? Apparently real-world safety isn't the motivation here anyway.

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:38 (fifteen years ago)

why don't we all just assign random numbers and letters and keep a post-it on our computer with the codes

When your web browser asks if you want to save your password for that website, THERE'S YOUR POST-IT.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

People keep microwaving leftover fish in the break room here.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

Great, until you need access from a different computer, or a certain site doesn't work with a certain browser so you have to change from Safari to Firefox. Or your computer crashes and things get re-set. Or it's not a browser but a proprietary system that doesn't allow you to save anything.

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:57 (fifteen years ago)

Nerds are already all about this. Basically you run a password manager program, it has web browser plugins, and it syncs that crap between computers. If you can't remember your password for something, you can retrieve it from the software. Then you only have to have one strong password you remember, and in the worst case, you can keep your synced-up file on a usb drive on your (physical) keychain next to yr car keys.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

fwiw all this crap will end up baked into systems in the next few years, I'd guess.

sectarian chicken (mh), Friday, 14 January 2011 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

I always e-mail myself the password so I can look it up if I need to at home.

http://tinyurl.com/MO-02011 (Pleasant Plains), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:00 (fifteen years ago)

the key to the password problem is just to use a date like January1! and then when you have to change it you just add one to the number so it's January2! very easy to remember. or start with your birthday.

positive reflection is the key (harbl), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

I would be more interested in this password manager program idea if a) I were allowed to install ANYTHING on my work machine without sysadmin, and b) if I weren't pretty sure that I'd get in some kind of trouble for using anything to store or organize passwords and then taking it out of the building (like a USB stick). I mean, I'm sure it's not allowed in some way or another. Corporate life/rules are years away from catching up with the tech.

harbl: at least one of our systems won't let you use a similar word to your last 3 picks. Impossible to stick with one word and change the number. Unfortunately.

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:05 (fifteen years ago)

so February2, then uh.. MMMMarch2

progressive cuts (Tracer Hand), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:08 (fifteen years ago)

qwerty1
wertyu2
ertyui3...

nanoflymo (ledge), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

Keep going Ledge. No reason. Do you online bank? Use the same username everywhere? Good good...

superpitching, Friday, 14 January 2011 16:16 (fifteen years ago)

my password is the last 6 digits of my SS# everywhere, if I can use it. otherwise it's my first dog and the last 4 digits of my first phone number.

=(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

xp fyi this is just for work pc, my online passwords are reasonably secure. feel free to pop over to my desk and hack in tho...

nanoflymo (ledge), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

I have a mental system for cycling between passwords within a certain theme and with corresponding numerals, it just strikes me as a lot of fuss over some emails etc.

Jesus Christ, the apple tree! (Laurel), Friday, 14 January 2011 16:24 (fifteen years ago)

- when you mention the first star wars film and some spod disingenuously does this whole 'you mean "the phantom menace"? no? oh then you mean "a new hope" which is actually number four!! you should say what you mean'

all star wars films are shit anyway so

Solid Gold Danzas (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

SB

VegemiteGrrrl, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:54 (fifteen years ago)

Right so I want to listen to Demon Days but somehow iTunes has suddenly decided that 'All Alone' is track 1, so now I have to start at track 2 and remember to flip back to 'All Alone' at the right time. Yes I know I can make a custom playlist, yes I have done that.

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:53 (fifteen years ago)

I know winamp has/had a bug where it chucks track 1 at the end if you load up an album the wrong way ,but I think itunes should just read ther ID3 tags. Maybe theyre misnumbered?

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:55 (fifteen years ago)

maybe YOU'RE misnumbered

(i am irrationally angry, u see)

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:56 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know how this one even happened seeing as it's been in iTunes and on this iPod for like 85 years, anyway.

Also I get all ia about (a) the whole iName thing Apple has got going on and (b) people who refer to their iGoods like they're people (but I think I have already been ia about those two things itt so)

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:58 (fifteen years ago)

maybe it's the "album artist" field being a douche like it always is. if one track has that field filled and the rest don't, it can freak out. or if that one track doesn't have it and the rest do. anyway fuck itunes.

there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:00 (fifteen years ago)

maybe YOU'RE misnumbered

LOL.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:01 (fifteen years ago)

Yes, actually yes, I think it's happened with other stuff before in fact. I'm pretty sure Apple changed the way it sorts that stuff recently. Cheers.

Can't check it until I get home but hey, at least there's on-the-go playlists rite? <3 apple

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:03 (fifteen years ago)

Fuggit, while I'm here, I am ia about the fact that iPads (a) have a shit screen resolution (b) have only 256 Mb RAM (my PHONE has double that ffs). I need an iPad for tertiary wotsits and will not pay money for old tech.

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:05 (fifteen years ago)

itunes is a pile of shit, imo. You can't just queue up a song while you play like you can in winamp. which is like 99% of how I play shit.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:06 (fifteen years ago)

I need an iPad for

oh the buggery you do

‰(.*?)‰ (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:07 (fifteen years ago)

You can't just queue up a song while you play like you can in winamp

itunes dj playlist? (used to be party shuffle) u can right-click and add tracks to it.

nanoflymo (ledge), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:11 (fifteen years ago)

Don't want to derail the thread too much BUT I'm of two minds with iTunes. I really like its general design and utility, but it's become of a bit of a catch-all monster app and is now full of weird bugs and inconsistent UI. Needs a complete overhaul.

One thing that bothers the hell out of me with Apple stuff is that you can't step an inch outside Apple's boundaries. If you want to do everything the way you're told to you're fine, but the second you need to do something that's not prescribed you're suddenly pushing shit uphill. Drives me mental.

xxp jim I actually do and it actually has to be an iPad, annoying but hey wotrugonnado.

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:14 (fifteen years ago)

really?! why are they mandating that? i would tell them to foad

‰(.*?)‰ (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:15 (fifteen years ago)

They're not mandating it. There's an app which doesn't exist on any other tablet or OS that I've already bought for the iPhone ($60-odd) and needs the bigger screen to be properly useful. I could go without it but the iPhone version basically transformed my learning so.

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:19 (fifteen years ago)

You cant use a netbook/laptop?

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:19 (fifteen years ago)

oh ok.

Stargazey Pi (Trayce), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:20 (fifteen years ago)

Writing directly on a touch screen is a world away from scribbling blindly on a track pad.

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

drag

‰(.*?)‰ (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:24 (fifteen years ago)

i <3 ios so

goldenarsehat.jpg (Schlafsack), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:37 (fifteen years ago)

ponce

‰(.*?)‰ (electricsound), Monday, 17 January 2011 00:43 (fifteen years ago)


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