another maniacal Armond White review, this time "Fahrenheit 9/11"

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scott pilgrim is better than wild grass

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 18:54 (thirteen years ago) link

haven't caught up with 'takers' tho

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 18:55 (thirteen years ago) link

can't wait for his "chris brown > rihanna" slam when battleship comes out

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

I think bringing up Battleship should draw the Armondism "I pity you"

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link

White is almost always wrong, but he's right about Darren Aronofsky. Pi was awesome, Requiem for a Dream seemed sort of okay on first viewing but gets worse and worse every time I think about it, and The Fountain and The Wrestler are pretty much unredeemable piles of shit. I haven't seen Black Swan because three failures out of four attempts = you get no more of my time or money.

that's not funny. (unperson), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

Requiem for a Dream was the worst experience I ever had in a movie theater. I did like Pi, but it had the sheen of "promising first-time filmmaker"

hey boys, suppers on me, our video just went bacterial (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I think bringing up Battleship should draw the Armondism "I pity you"

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:05 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

Oh come on, he's gonna fucking LOVE Battleship.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

either that, or hell use the review to praise GI Joe: Rise of the Cobra or a similarly awful action movie.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i was going to say, battleship will be "better than" whichever critically acclaimed film mildly questions american foreign policy.

omar little, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 21:37 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.nypress.com/article-22053-indecent-exposure.html

<3 u Armond

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

racist pseuds

Bening is all smiley in that photo with him, though.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

Watched "Scott Pilgrim" again the other night, and really really enjoyed it. Still haven't seen Black Swan but will probably do so today...

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:18 (thirteen years ago) link

"For years now, Hoberman hasn't been able to stand the heat of the New York Press' competition. "

C0L1N B..., Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link

This is like an epic diss track.

not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill (Nicole), Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link

Yes, racism motivates Schwarzbaum and Hoberman. They pretend to be hip and ladylike...

J. Hoberman pretends to be ladylike?

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Their fit of public indecency brings pettiness, sour grapes—and their privilege—into the open when normally it never affects public perception of the critical ranks.

I notice he doesn't mention his Greenberg dis at all.

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

uh this basically seems like ppl are castigating AW because he didn't simperingly kiss butt but presented kind of honestly?

zvookster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 20:55 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah, i dunno. to me it reads like an arrogant asshole sucking his own dick (note mixed metaphor). failing to take a joke, getting petty and bitchy about it, and lavishing praise on the only person with the "wisdom" to acknowledge his own incredible importance. horrible, horrible piece of writing.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:04 (thirteen years ago) link

uh this basically seems like ppl are castigating AW because he didn't simperingly kiss butt but presented kind of honestly?

― zvookster, Thursday, January 20, 2011 8:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark

commencing eye-roll sequence

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

White also introduced playwright Tony Kushner, who was there to award The Social Network best picture, by saying, "Maybe he can explain why it won best picture."

yeah he's like ricky gervais up in this bitch, s0 funny, not afraid to tell it like it is

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Two things

- lolling at the dude who fantasized about a "retroactive abortion" (no matter how otm) chastizing others for having "sick fantasies"

- sexy-maternal?????

hard as a markers (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

otm?

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the sexy-maternal thing really says it all

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

parasite suckling at the engorged teats of a monster etc

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link

the thing about AW is he's not being honest even w/r/t to his own opinions i think. he projects weird shit onto other people and has a martyrdom complex that should be a case study. it's not surprising he gives bitchy negative reviews to antiwar movies tbh.

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

he went so far out of his way to say nice things abt michele williams that she made a joke of it. he responded to aronofsky saying "u give us another reason not to read your paper" with "“That’s all right. Darren reads me. That’s all I want. And because he reads me, he knows the truth.” which is fine, considering that's kind of vicious, what he's responding to. and he finished a long praise-filled preamble with "Surely Kushner, whose great play Angels in American showed how spiritual and social connections transformed lust and duty to family, friends and country into moral responsibility, will explain why The Social Network is deserving." which is over the line, but the reactions were hit pieces based on his offending some kind of social politesse

zvookster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link

i wonder how many movies he hates he would actually love if he wasn't 24/7 aware of what other critics thought about them.

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link

he responded to aronofsky saying "u give us another reason not to read your paper" with "“That’s all right. Darren reads me. That’s all I want. And because he reads me, he knows the truth.” which is fine, considering that's kind of vicious, what he's responding to.

kind of deserved an incredibly sarcastic "COMEBACK" from darren aronovsky but i guess ymmv

really though, "because he reads me, he knows the truth”? that's pretty weak

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

he went so far out of his way to say nice things abt michele williams that she made a joke of it.

that's a sweet way to look at someone introducing a woman by saying "well, i liked that movie you made four years ago" and her saying "woof, guess i won't read anything you've written about my movies since then."

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:22 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't it just the only way to look at it

zvookster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:26 (thirteen years ago) link

so why did Armond call her "naive" in his new piece?

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

as in naive Michelle Williams and gullible Mark Ruffalo followed suit, perhaps nervously thinking this is what film folk do in the presence of critics: a rare chance to settle scores.

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:28 (thirteen years ago) link

the point is he's responding to lying, dishonest & apparently very successful hit pieces, i'm not going to defend his being butthurt that actors made fun of him

zvookster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

"dishonest"

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

"naive" for following the herd, i think, as in "i want to like her still, she was just naive"

zvookster, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

seems like the only real difference in perception is whether annette bening was pissed at him (their take) or her fellow actors (his take), or whether he said Kushner "surely could explain" why the Social Network was deserving (his take) or whether he said MAYBE Kushner could explain (their take)

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:31 (thirteen years ago) link

even without him stooping to calling a couple of other writers total racists for hating him (though w/schwarzbaum maybe it comes down to the time he called her a cunt or w/e during a NYFCC debate and then proudly wrote about it in the NY Press), he's been this kind of creep for years and well beyond the usual snark, so even if he was gracious (and according to himself he was the most ingratiating person in the room) he would still have had it coming if anyone bitched him out.

omar little, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

he responded to aronofsky saying "u give us another reason not to read your paper" with "“That’s all right. Darren reads me. That’s all I want. And because he reads me, he knows the truth.”

what this reads like, to me, is armond failing to understand that the role of critics at functions like this is to be affable about getting roasted. being affable demonstrates deference, and it's likewise the critic's job to defer to artists, at least in polite social/public settings. armond chafes at that. he rightly sees these demonstrations of deference as an acknowledgment of the critic's lesser status relative to celebrity artists. of course, he doesn't see the critic as any less important than what he critiques. quite the opposite. his own criticism clearly demonstrates this. it's no mere response to cinema. armond's criticism is an aggressive attempt to reshape the perceived meaning of films, essentially to remake them, to push them into shapes that only HE could or would design. cinema is the raw material from which armond creates the world, and he can't seem to tolerate any suggestion that he is not the most important being in it.

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:39 (thirteen years ago) link

^^^OTM

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

The art for this piece is a picture of him with Annette Bening and little hearts around them.

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Cuz, you see, otherwise people wouldn't know she was on his side.

da croupier, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:41 (thirteen years ago) link

cinema is the raw material from which armond creates the world,

Armond would totally use this as blurb material for his next book.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

so while he infantilizes himself in describing his relationship w/Bening, he also refuses to cede any authority - the infant is the mother's equal, but it is also paradoxically the center of the world

xp

ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link

I hope he and John Simon drink at the same watering hole.

From the guys who brought you Fay Weldon (Eazy), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:43 (thirteen years ago) link

starting to seriously think this dude needs psychiatric help

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

He got the old antagonisms rolling, then naive Michelle Williams and gullible Mark
Ruffalo followed suit

Mark Ruffalo, well known victim of Rick-Rolls.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:46 (thirteen years ago) link

The art for this piece is a picture of him with Annette Bening and little hearts around them.

She has a heart on for Armond.

not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill (Nicole), Thursday, 20 January 2011 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

what this reads like, to me, is armond failing to understand that the role of critics at functions like this is to be affable about getting roasted. being affable demonstrates deference, and it's likewise the critic's job to defer to artists, at least in polite social/public settings. armond chafes at that. he rightly sees these demonstrations of deference as an acknowledgment of the critic's lesser status relative to celebrity artists. of course, he doesn't see the critic as any less important than what he critiques. quite the opposite. his own criticism clearly demonstrates this. it's no mere response to cinema. armond's criticism is an aggressive attempt to reshape the perceived meaning of films, essentially to remake them, to push them into shapes that only HE could or would design. cinema is the raw material from which armond creates the world, and he can't seem to tolerate any suggestion that he is not the most important being in it.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:39 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

"being affable demonstrates deference", no it doesn't!

darren aronofsky's zing was merited wasn't it? no-one takes armond white seriously as a critic.

moholy-nagl (history mayne), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:01 (thirteen years ago) link

i don't have the energy to argue the point. can we just agree that i'm right?

normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:30 (thirteen years ago) link


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