Inception (with implanted spoilers)

I guess I'd like most to see the La Jetee to Inception's 12 Monkeys.

i'm no La Jetee fanboy but this is inspired.

Hell I'd just like to see Gilliam's Inception.

I'd like Inception to have been made in the mid 60s as a slick and swinging TV series starring Patrick McGoohan and Robert Vaughn.

Maybe Michael Horden in the Caine role.

im probably one of the few who enjoyed this a lot MORE the second time. some things I noticed that have probably been noted upthread 100 times already:

1) there seems to be a LOT of hints that the movie is really about Leo's dream and that HE's the one being incepted. Caine saying "come back to reality," all the talk of catharsis, etc.

2) all the psychotherapy as action movie tropes--uncovering your unconscious as if getting into an impenetrable fortress and pulling off a heist, all in the name of catharsis or some kind of therapy.

3) and since I bought into 2 above, I actually bought into the emotional arc of the movie a lot more.

oh, and Inception being code for the psychoanalytic idea that the patient can't be led by the nose to their own realization, that they sorta have to feel it as their own.

3) and since I bought into 2 above, I actually bought into the emotional arc of the movie a lot more.

I found this to be the case.

although I think it had more to do with not having to keep up with the mechanics.

im probably one of the few who enjoyed this a lot MORE the second time.

no you're not the only one. i definitely felt the same way.

yup ditto

Found it boring watching in hi def in the flat eating pizza with my bro second time round. Had enjoyed it in the cinema.

Felt same way about dark knight tbh

i saw this last night for only the second time, while seeing-double stoned. i found something i liked in it! i like how leo's agony is that he once convinced a person he loved to trust him on something really vital for no reason other than that she loved him, and now a shade of that person is asking him to trust her on exactly the same issue and providing no less evidence than he did for her, and he is refusing, and that hurts him. that is a nifty short-story situation and i liked it a lot.

besides that, there are no relationships between people in this movie at all. there's cillian murphy and his dad, but that's just a rushed plot mechanism--and besides it's not his real dad; it's a memory of his dad. there's ellen page and leo, but that relationship consists entirely of page psychoanalyzing her boss for the benefit of the audience; she herself is an un-person. there are suggestions of a cool heist-movie buddy relationship between JGL and leo, but only in a couple throwaway lines by the former (the best lines in the movie). the only relationships between anything that the movie explores are the relationships between individual people and their own brains, relationships defined by a bunch of arcane rules the movie made up because they're structurally convenient and can therefore have absolutely nothing to reveal about how people actually interact with themselves. so this solipsistic movie doesn't even have anything to say about solipsism.

there's this sense, watching it, that it's constantly revealing new levels, new layers, and it is--but they're levels below the previous one, not above. to me the movie's the wrong kind of high--it doesn't expand your perception, it contracts it. all that's left are some nice suits and some action-movie sets (furious developing-world mob; siberian snow fortress) utterly removed from anything complicated they might once have grown out of or meant. there are lots of great action movies that don't curl up into a ball in the corner of a sharper image warehouse and make up explanations for their feelings.

I keep coming up with taglines they could have used for the movie.

GET INCEPTED!

INCEPT THIS!

ARE YOU READY FOR INCEPTION?

IMMACULATE INCEPTION!

"while seeing-double stoned"

stopped reading

do you have such a high opinion of inception that you'd assume drugs would improve it

I want a filmmaker to enter my mind alone, not with a drug.

yeah i gave him that chance and he sucked at it so then i took a drug to help me better understand the ways in which he sucked

Well there ya go, you didn't take prescription brand Incepteron.

"now with thousands of tiny time pills"

really enjoying how morbs wears his dislike of Inception as a badge of honor, good look imo

I want a filmmaker to enter my mind alone, not with a drug.

new ilf board desc

it's quite a commonplace "badge" beyond the bright-shiny-objects-lovin' generation

i think the idea isnt that it was too easy to understand, just that it was overexplained and inelegant - more a style issue than a concept one

from upthread = OTM

Just watched this. Yeah, pretty good, but also a little too much GENERIC ACTION MOVIE in alot of parts. Also by having the whole movie focus on one long caper (instead of maybe a couple small ones then a big one), it really felt more or less like they were making up the rules as they went along. Good movie but I don't really feel the need to watch again.

And the ending was pretty lame imho.

It kind of reminds me of the owl movie.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li48mzmEJI1qe11kdo1_500.jpg

don't know what this new meme is where everything's spelled horribly, i just liked that they included her neckerchief.

this was fucking silly. the first time Nolan's made a genuinely bad movie.

http://movies.msn.com/story/taxing-movie-people/christopher-nolan/

In "The Dark Knight," characters announce the movie's themes in the form of lectures to the audience while the movie is playing. "Inception" has no discernible themes because it consists of nothing but game rules, most of them arbitrary. Since the movie's "dreams" aren't dreams at all, and have little connection to the ways in which the human mind actually works, what we're left with is an overblown, complicated (but not complex) version of 3-D tic-tac-toe. We're constantly reminded of the regulations and restrictions the game master has put in place for operating on and between the levels... but so what? What does it all signify? I'd much rather watch a movie that's actually about something.

this is my 9 year old's new favorite movie

it is a great movie for boys but adults not so much

watched this again from the hotel slumber initiation onward

still rocked, although I was kind of annoyed that the snow level didn't also get affected by weightlessness (I guess maybe the reasoning would be they were too far down to be affected by it? ie things only transfer down one level; was it raining in the hotel level?)

coming in at that point, I'd forgotten that they started out on an intercontinental plane ride, so when Mal came back up I was all "A-HA MUST BE A DREAM because how could they get comatose bodies into first class????" and my wife gave me such a pitying look

your wife otm.

she often is

on the other hand she married you.

haha i don't even know why i said that. i'm like a child with a fork near an electrical outlet who's been told "no."

lol

she's still kind enough to feel pity

a keeper for life, imo

i learned to dislike this movie a lot less once i accepted the banality of nolan's idea of "dreams."

I hate it when these movies come out and everyone's all OMG, THERE'S A TWIST! DON'T WORRY, I WON'T TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

Because it only took me five seconds of understanding the plot of the movie to figure out, well, I guess in the end he'll still be dreaming.

Still I enjoyed it and there weren't too many plot holes. So did that chemist piss his pants and make it rain, or what.

xp The dreams were designed specifically to extract secrets, why make them crazy? Do we even see a non-designed dream that's not a memory? Limbo stuff, I guess.

i don't know. if i have a dream where paul lynde doesn't show up with a jack-o-lantern or the care bears aren't discovered to be behind the jfk assassination i'd start getting suspicious real quick.

the whole idea of designing dreams to be linear and rational so as not to freak out the dreamer's unconscious mind seems basically bananas to me given the nature of dreams.

you mean if you have a real life where Paul Lynde doesn't show up with a jack-o-lantern or the Care Bears aren't discovered to be behind the JFK assassination, since the whole point was to make the dreams be plausible real-life scenarios that were "real" enough to lull the target but built like a maze to keep the target's subconscious from rofflestomping you

PP that wasn't the twist and the director and everyone have said the ending is real

the TWIST is that:
1. Mal is his dead wife and he's wanted for killing her
2. They end up making the mark think he's in someone else's dream

actually I take it back, the movie had no twist, I have no idea what these people were talking about

again for me the issue isn't so much "do these dreams make sense within the logic of this world" as "this film is some bollocks you are making up, why choose to make up some boring shit?"

dan you know damn well that's precisely what my real life is like

paul lynde and i are drinking mojitos and discussing borges right now

(lynde smells terrible btw)

I'd a dream incepted in which two Nolan thread were resurrected at once by Thundercats.