Rolling Philosophy

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come join snowy! let thee not be the other of 77

gershy schol kinda looked like a 'bro' when he was young, anyway

xp I tend to forget that it exists! but nah, I'm cool — I guess I just lack "a taste for the secret"

http://www.thechinabeat.org/?p=2631

huh, very sneaky Dr. Land

I suppose this is the best place to ask: does anyone have any recommendations for a overview of 20th century philosophy? (mainly continental, mainly french) Not afraid of depth, but what I'm really looking for is something with a lot of breadth which actually attempts some kind of all-encompassing view of intellectual history during the 20th century.

the course I took in college used the critical tradition, as compiled by david richter, which was just important excerpts from a lot of big important philosophy texts, w/ some introduction and interpretation

pretty good imo

ryan, gary gutting's history of 20c. french (CUP) is good. there's a recent book 'french theory' (u. minn press) that might fill out that story on the tail end and more from the american/anglo humanities side. also a recent biography of deleuze and guattari, 'd+g: intersecting lives'.

Try - A History of Structuralism by Francois Dosse

Quick question - I'm being lazy as I just want to check something that'll only affect a couple of paragraphs, but if I want to talk about Marx, Kant and instrumentality am I right in thinking Theses on Feuerbach should be my starting point?

thanks! all of those look really good, actually.

Quick question - I'm being lazy as I just want to check something that'll only affect a couple of paragraphs, but if I want to talk about Marx, Kant and instrumentality am I right in thinking Theses on Feuerbach should be my starting point?

― emil.y, Saturday, February 19, 2011 4:40 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

where does Kant talk abt (something akin to) instrumentality? not familiar enough.

lately I'm tryna get into the third Kritik — the whole question of 'taste' as public use of reason, etc etc. it's fun.

One of the proposed formulations of the categorical imperative is to not use others purely as means and not ends, so in other words not to give primacy to their instrumentality above their being-in-themselves. So I'm tying that to Marx in the sense of a type of alienation stemming from the separation of these modes of being, and indeed a nullification of the latter, but am in need of some references to back me up, rather than half-remembered bits and pieces. The central thing of what I'm writing about is literary, though, hence not wanting to spend days trawling through everything for the sake of only a small part of my piece. Shouldn't be so lazy, I know.

ah ok i gotcha now

practical reason is my big blind spot... i mostly jump on the bandwagon in the post-kantian years when everyone's getting all romantic and speculative, and I have no idea how any of those dudes took the 2nd critique

y'all reading any new stuff you can recommend?

Derek Parfit - On What Matters is the most important philosophy book in a decade probably
Pippin has a new book on Nietzsche that's pretty awesome - but I'm a Pippin-stan
I haven't read it yet but Boyarin has a new book that's getting good reviews -- The Jewish Gospels, I think. Not out till next year tho.

first book's on my long list of things to read. thanks for reminding me about it!

is this the pippin? http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/N/bo8697282.html

yep!

looks p good :D

nick land has a blog!

http://www.thatsmags.com/shanghai/article/detail/292/time-preference

that gives you the flavor. austrian economics, "civilizational" despair. another right-winger...

good post

woah, thanks for the link

markers, if u figure out how to rss just his posts, let me know.

finally managed to read some of the "speculative realism" stuff, namely Tool-Being. I honestly thought it was pretty good, despite some reservations (don't ask me to defend that statement in detail though). I wonder what a better understanding on Harman's part of American philosophy (Peirce and James) would add to his philosophy, because it seems like his understanding of pragmatism is a little thin.

i haven't looked too hard, but i don't see an obvious way to tbh

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anyone read this yet?

http://o-books.com/books/in-the-dust-of-this-planet

The blurb makes the author sound like an aspiring Oscar Wildean.

I can vouch for Eugene Thacker's previous work. This new one looks like a lot of fun too.

awesome. i want to read after life at some point too

thanks for bringing my attention to this! just about to turn in my dissertation and i think it will be my first read with my new freedom.

i think i'm going to read that yale university press gadamer biography next -- i got it for under ten bucks at the mit press bookstore over two years ago

(i should go back there eventually and check out the discount section again)

I like gadamer

so just started In the Dust of This Planet and it's even more interesting than I anticipated because I think one of the things he's trying to gesture towards is an idea of a kind of nihilistic or negative mysticism, an experience of the "nothingness" beyond the limits of thought/philosophy. not for nothing does it open with epigraphs from Schopenhauer and The Cloud of Unknowning. There's basically no quicker way to get my attention than that kind of juxtaposition!

also some mentions of Nishitani towards the end, i see. Ok i should actually read this now..

"What an earlier era would have described through the language of darkness mysticism or negative theology, our contemporary era thinks of in terms of supernatural horror."

This actually strikes me as an interesting claim because the traditional religions have seemed to push out mystical or antinomian ideas for the sake of an enforced fundamentalism.

and non-traditional, new agey type religions aren't so much concerned with an unknowable God so much as the revelation of personality or self.

ok so he's now talking about Keiji Haino!

i think i'll end up reading this at some point

just preordered the huge zizek book that's coming out in april

is that the promised opus on Hegel?

I finished the Thacker book, it was good. It was short and more suggestive than sustained and argued, but if you enjoy those themes (as mentioned above) it's pretty interesting.

yes yes! look!: http://www.amazon.com/Less-Than-Nothing-Dialectical-Materialism/dp/1844678970/

yeah, from something you said upthread it sounds like it'll be my kind of book

ok, may have to read this. reading group?

Yeah, I'd be up for that. I expect it won't be an easy read- the little Hegel I've read is heavy stuff.

yeah, this'll probably be more like Zizek's Parallax View than Living in the End Times, re: complexity

There are some posts about the book at http://ernstbloch.wordpress.com/, including a table of contents.

not a huge Zizek guy, but it sounds good! i still think Hegel is very fertile ground.

the first post on that blog touches on all manner of things that interest me, but what i usually get from sources like from George Spencer-Brown or Peirce or Niklas Luhmann. very cool.

i'd be up for an ilx hegel reading group

the dialectic requires markers to be down for it

kinda looks like "finally, zizek's hegel book" really means "finally, zizek's most thorough unfolding of his own thought". but yeah could be interesting. i understand that he had an editor for the first time in many years for this one, so it shouldn't be stricken with the chronic laziness that's characterised a lot of his recent work.