Inception (with implanted spoilers)

i think the idea isnt that it was too easy to understand, just that it was overexplained and inelegant - more a style issue than a concept one

i didnt understand everything that happened but idk im prob dumb

"when half of the viewing public still only grasped half of what was going on"

Maybe cuz they fell asleep during the extended explanations!

No, I mean people of average intelligence who are casual/regular moviegoers to major theaters didn't understand the compressed time thing completely, or really didn't get the intro / outro connection or why his wife was after him.

I have only run across one or two of these people, mostly in bars, so maybe they're alcoholics?

So not understanding Inception drove them to drink?

got drunk cuz they knew they couldn't post to ilx about it

Guys this is so nerdy but I want to make a "fan knitting pattern" of the hats they are wearing in the arctic dreamland.

i was pretty fascinated with the whole structure and the way the action scenes at various levels played off each other, and the movie just looked dope as hell imo.

― omar little, Monday, January 10, 2011 7:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

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the first time i saw this i was kinda like pssh this looked nice and was well made but the plot isn't the easiest and i'm not totally on top of everything that happens. weirdly, knowing all the plot the second time made it much easier to enjoy the structure and the tension (it's still tense even if you know what happens!) and the little visual details and polish. i suppose a great movie would've been more enjoyable the first time, but i almost think that nolan intended this for repeat viewing. that might not be a virtue, but w/e

the movie just looked dope as hell

why do you think they call it dope?

Morbius, please, I haven't smoked weed since 2000 and I find your reference to drugs frankly rather offensive. http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2889/emotcolbert.gif

dude omar i think he was asking an honest question. why ~do~ they call it dope? what is dope, anyway??

dopamine, as in not yours, typically extracted from bauxite

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LbrWNsWcGmI/0.jpg

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Its hobby glue, duh!

yeah, it hurt me real bad to type that

xp

supposedly derives from the smoking of opium tar, as "doop" apparently used to refer to thick liquids and sauces

In this way you can overcome all of the so-called "Dope Troubles."

I guess I'd like most to see the La Jetee to Inception's 12 Monkeys.

i'm no La Jetee fanboy but this is inspired.

Hell I'd just like to see Gilliam's Inception.

I'd like Inception to have been made in the mid 60s as a slick and swinging TV series starring Patrick McGoohan and Robert Vaughn.

Maybe Michael Horden in the Caine role.

im probably one of the few who enjoyed this a lot MORE the second time. some things I noticed that have probably been noted upthread 100 times already:

1) there seems to be a LOT of hints that the movie is really about Leo's dream and that HE's the one being incepted. Caine saying "come back to reality," all the talk of catharsis, etc.

2) all the psychotherapy as action movie tropes--uncovering your unconscious as if getting into an impenetrable fortress and pulling off a heist, all in the name of catharsis or some kind of therapy.

3) and since I bought into 2 above, I actually bought into the emotional arc of the movie a lot more.

oh, and Inception being code for the psychoanalytic idea that the patient can't be led by the nose to their own realization, that they sorta have to feel it as their own.

3) and since I bought into 2 above, I actually bought into the emotional arc of the movie a lot more.

I found this to be the case.

although I think it had more to do with not having to keep up with the mechanics.

im probably one of the few who enjoyed this a lot MORE the second time.

no you're not the only one. i definitely felt the same way.

yup ditto

Found it boring watching in hi def in the flat eating pizza with my bro second time round. Had enjoyed it in the cinema.

Felt same way about dark knight tbh

i saw this last night for only the second time, while seeing-double stoned. i found something i liked in it! i like how leo's agony is that he once convinced a person he loved to trust him on something really vital for no reason other than that she loved him, and now a shade of that person is asking him to trust her on exactly the same issue and providing no less evidence than he did for her, and he is refusing, and that hurts him. that is a nifty short-story situation and i liked it a lot.

besides that, there are no relationships between people in this movie at all. there's cillian murphy and his dad, but that's just a rushed plot mechanism--and besides it's not his real dad; it's a memory of his dad. there's ellen page and leo, but that relationship consists entirely of page psychoanalyzing her boss for the benefit of the audience; she herself is an un-person. there are suggestions of a cool heist-movie buddy relationship between JGL and leo, but only in a couple throwaway lines by the former (the best lines in the movie). the only relationships between anything that the movie explores are the relationships between individual people and their own brains, relationships defined by a bunch of arcane rules the movie made up because they're structurally convenient and can therefore have absolutely nothing to reveal about how people actually interact with themselves. so this solipsistic movie doesn't even have anything to say about solipsism.

there's this sense, watching it, that it's constantly revealing new levels, new layers, and it is--but they're levels below the previous one, not above. to me the movie's the wrong kind of high--it doesn't expand your perception, it contracts it. all that's left are some nice suits and some action-movie sets (furious developing-world mob; siberian snow fortress) utterly removed from anything complicated they might once have grown out of or meant. there are lots of great action movies that don't curl up into a ball in the corner of a sharper image warehouse and make up explanations for their feelings.

I keep coming up with taglines they could have used for the movie.

GET INCEPTED!

INCEPT THIS!

ARE YOU READY FOR INCEPTION?

IMMACULATE INCEPTION!

"while seeing-double stoned"

stopped reading

do you have such a high opinion of inception that you'd assume drugs would improve it

I want a filmmaker to enter my mind alone, not with a drug.

yeah i gave him that chance and he sucked at it so then i took a drug to help me better understand the ways in which he sucked

Well there ya go, you didn't take prescription brand Incepteron.

"now with thousands of tiny time pills"

really enjoying how morbs wears his dislike of Inception as a badge of honor, good look imo

I want a filmmaker to enter my mind alone, not with a drug.

new ilf board desc

it's quite a commonplace "badge" beyond the bright-shiny-objects-lovin' generation

i think the idea isnt that it was too easy to understand, just that it was overexplained and inelegant - more a style issue than a concept one

from upthread = OTM

Just watched this. Yeah, pretty good, but also a little too much GENERIC ACTION MOVIE in alot of parts. Also by having the whole movie focus on one long caper (instead of maybe a couple small ones then a big one), it really felt more or less like they were making up the rules as they went along. Good movie but I don't really feel the need to watch again.

And the ending was pretty lame imho.

It kind of reminds me of the owl movie.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li48mzmEJI1qe11kdo1_500.jpg

don't know what this new meme is where everything's spelled horribly, i just liked that they included her neckerchief.

this was fucking silly. the first time Nolan's made a genuinely bad movie.

http://movies.msn.com/story/taxing-movie-people/christopher-nolan/

In "The Dark Knight," characters announce the movie's themes in the form of lectures to the audience while the movie is playing. "Inception" has no discernible themes because it consists of nothing but game rules, most of them arbitrary. Since the movie's "dreams" aren't dreams at all, and have little connection to the ways in which the human mind actually works, what we're left with is an overblown, complicated (but not complex) version of 3-D tic-tac-toe. We're constantly reminded of the regulations and restrictions the game master has put in place for operating on and between the levels... but so what? What does it all signify? I'd much rather watch a movie that's actually about something.

this is my 9 year old's new favorite movie

it is a great movie for boys but adults not so much

watched this again from the hotel slumber initiation onward

still rocked, although I was kind of annoyed that the snow level didn't also get affected by weightlessness (I guess maybe the reasoning would be they were too far down to be affected by it? ie things only transfer down one level; was it raining in the hotel level?)

coming in at that point, I'd forgotten that they started out on an intercontinental plane ride, so when Mal came back up I was all "A-HA MUST BE A DREAM because how could they get comatose bodies into first class????" and my wife gave me such a pitying look

your wife otm.

she often is