New York City is for sellouts

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Well, you made the right decision not moving, obviously!

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

JBR, remember yr approaching this as a natvie NYer and probably don't have the set of expectations in terms of 'relaxation' and 'personal space' that people from other parts of the country have.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Sam, I need as much relaxation and personal space as anyone! Also I may be a native New Yorker but I've lived in semi-rural areas and small cities. NYC isn't my only frame of reference.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

128 new posts in the hour that I was at lunch. That's what I like to see. Gabbnebb, see the caveat at the end of my first post re: native NYers.

The pics are beautiful, but prove nothing. Anybody from any city can post pretty pictures of their home city. Sorry, but it's true.

Anyways, I didn't mean for this thread to be "people that live in NYC, defend it," but rather: Why is NYC is the default place for people to move to? I like NYC, it's great fun, but I've had just as much fun in every city I've lived in or visited. Do people just have no imagination?

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The short answer? Yes.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

And JBR is right, it seems quite a fallacy to assume that the people born in NYC have no other frame of reference for living...there's no need for a "unless you were born there" caveat because it's not like any of us are trapped here.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The pics are beautiful, but prove nothing.

I hate to say this because it sounds like I'm saying "lady, if you have to ask..." but if these photos prove nothing to you about why people would want to move here, I feel sorry for you.

Why is NYC is the default place for people to move to?

Live here for a while (and by "live here" I mean "actually take advantage of the place") and you'll understand why so many people move here.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

but if these photos prove nothing to you about why people would want to move here, I feel sorry for you.

I really think this is just a very, very subjective thing. What a place looks like wouldn't even make my top ten list for why I would or wouldn't want to live somewhere, and not much of the content (like, what they're photos of, as opposed to how nice they look) would really sway me one way or the other. People want different things from where they are; if that weren't the case, the only things that would vary would be climate and cost of living.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It's just one of those "use other words please" debates, I suppose. I'm not someone who is looking for tons of personal space/relaxation time but when I want to just be alone I have absolutely no trouble finding it. I understand that there are specific cases and stuff who cannot live at all under city conditions (ie I don't think martin is "wrong" in his case) but as a generalization it's about as accurate and useful as the concept that, for example, everyone in SoCal is vacuous and slow-moving. This is an obvious fallacy as much as everyone in NYC being tense and packed like sardines is.

(xpost--like I said, there is no way to describe in words why any of us live here besides the explanations already given, so we're using pretty pictures to help illustrate. None of us can speak for the specific people being asked about being as they aren't the ones replying to you)

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean I'd hate to think you're implying that people who choose to live here have no imagination.

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:33 (twenty-two years ago)

My photos are not being posted necessarily because of what they look like, though there are a couple of ones that are actually mine (not googled) that I'm kind of proud of. The context and content are the point of mine, not that they're beautiful to look at! One of them is actually my house.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was in Chicago for a month, I was surprised to find that the majority of people I met in, uh, "Chicago hipster bars" weren't from Chicago either. Ohio, Missouri, Michigan, Texas, the Rockies, even some West Coast transplants. So its not only NYC that the kids are moving to.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The pics are beautiful, but prove nothing.

Well, to be fair, NA, you did kinda spring this thread during the day when proud New Yawrkers are at work and can't go home to prepare Powerpoint slides and portfolios. :)

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I always felt like the real sellouts are the people who move to Chicago instead of New York because it's "easier to make it." If that's the case, why not stay in Ohio, Missouri, Michigan, the Rockies, etc.?

― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:39 (twenty-two years ago)

My school looks like a city unto itself!

http://www.cap.bnl.gov/nufact03/campus_lo2-020924c.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.engineering.columbia.edu/admissions/grad/photos/neighborhood_stjohns.jpg

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Again, I kinda like how this thread turned out -- if for anything, that we'll see more "[city that you love] is for sellouts..." threads showing some great and yet not so necessarily touristy photos.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

No, PBR, I'm not implying that all New Yorkers lack imagination. I'm implying that people who move to NYC without considering moving to any other US city just because it's NYC so it's gotta be great! lack imagination.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe they're more informed than you think?

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

name one person who moved to nyc for this reason

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

besides momus

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

zing

― Asymmetric Cocktails (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

For what reason? Jason Sehorn?

http://www.jericbarnes.com/shp/columbia/images/large_columbia_statue.JPG

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I only need one good reason to move to NYC and that I've got. Unfortunately I also need a job.

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm implying that people who move to NYC without considering moving to any other US city just because it's NYC so it's gotta be great! lack imagination

How do they necessarily lack imagination? NYC is well documented as great by a number of sources. So are some other cities, but arguably none as much as New York. So what imagination are they lacking? The imagination that will convince them that some other city is great when they've never heard anything great about it? Is it lack of imagination that causes people to go with a "sure win" instead of something more risky?

I'm moving to Seattle after living in New York and Nashville, but I don't think I'm any more imaginative now than when I wanted to move to NYC. Seattle was suggested to me by a few people who know me well as a place they thought I'd like, and I had started seriously considering moving there. I finally had a chance to visit it, and I did like it a lot, so I'm moving. But I don't think imagination had much to do with it at all.

― martin m. (mushrush), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

My imagination tells me I should live under the sea.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

in fact, regarding my current occupational experience and situation I'm kind of selling out by staying in the DC area.

xpost for shit

― Millar (Millar), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I only need one good reason to move to NYC and that I've got. Unfortunately I also need a job.

I hear NYC has a huge demand for Ringo Starr impersonators.

― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

My imagination always said I should become a space hooker and pilot the Millennium Falcon to be honest. All silver clothes and space cowboys, yo. What the fuck, NYC is total ass compared to that.

Fuck having a job in NYC, I'm not going to have one in approximately 4 months and it'll be wonderful.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

My apartment has a huge demand for such, at least.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Ally, move to Tokyo with me.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Defending NYC brings Ally and JBR together! What further proof does one need?!?!??!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I change my name to Fujiko, Phil? Cos I am so in!

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Ny is too pally

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

My real reasons for staying in NYC.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I still don't understand why you would think moving to NYC is for sellouts. I don't think it's "mythology" at all that there are more opportunities to do whatever the hell you could possibly think of here than anywhere else in the world. I guess maybe except surfing. That's better on the west coast. If you wanted to get into publishing, why the hell would you want to move to Chattanooga? and so on.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I'm just irrational, but when 800 million people start to talk about how great something is, I instantly want to dislike it.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

no you're right - new york does suck

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Fujiko Kearney?

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

remember yr approaching this as a natvie NYer and probably don't have the set of expectations in terms of 'relaxation' and 'personal space' that people from other parts of the country have.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Blount, what do you like exactly?

Phil, yeah, I like that. Can I bring a guest on this move? Can I wear silver space shoes?

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh. I am not saying that New York sucks or that people that live there are stupid or even that people that move there are stupid.

I think I need a cooling off period. I'm not reading this thread again until 3:45. That's 37 minutes from now.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

it would help if you could provide one example of a person moving to nyc for the reason you state

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

you can wear whatever you want, fujiko... except no panties.

i need to find someone to move with me. i donut want to go all alone :(

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I posted a better explanation of my statment about expectations above but the browser crashed so whatever, bleh. this thread's totatlly not what Nick wanted anyway.

I want to talk about living under the sea.

― Texas Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Like I even wear panties half the time anyway, dude do you even realize how long I went without doing laundry? The women who did my laundry for me wree probably thinking I was a prostitute with all the panties they washed.

― Ally (mlescaut), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolivesinapineappleunderthesea?

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

why move to NYC and not anywhere else in the world?

Well for one thing, NYC is located at a convenient midpoint between London and Los Angeles (my second- and third-favorite cities).

― felicity (felicity), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

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