rolling veggie swag 2011: veg[etari]ans unite and cook the tastiest food imaginable (omnis u shd get in on this, too)

thats what i did this morning! but yeah, im kinda hamstrung by not liking eggs. i will teach myself to eventually, i can eat mushrooms now and i used to think they were gak. I dont believe in not liking food.

I used to make an and cover it in salsa

make an ~omelet~ rather

I mean yeah but fuck eggs imo

~bias revealed~

tofu scramble if you're averse to eggs. trying to remember how my friend makes this:

sautee chopped-up onion/garlic

add tofu (cut into medium pieces)(it breaks up as you scramble)

add soy sauce (or skip that, depending on what you're going for) and spices of choice

mushrooms are good, and any suitable veggies you have around (leafy greens, whatev)

scramble, taste, adjust seasoning as needed, eat.

sorry i don't have a more detailed recipe but it's good! and great for experimentation/adjusting for difft sorts of flavors.

Tofu scramble is amaaaazing. Plax, make that.

i hate the taste of fried/boiled/poached eggs, but i find omelettes/scrambled taste completely different. maybe worth trying an egg omelette if you haven't had one for a while plax.

Plax: Beans on toast! With Marmite! And toasted pumpkin seeds!

Does anyone else get stomach ache if they eat peanut butter for a few days in a row? It's delicious but I think it just sits in yr tum for ages.

OT & xp caek:

I understand you may have enjoyed your experience with Quorn, but CSPI is anything but crank. They've been around 39 years and are primarily known for lobbying efforts in the US to label processed foods with nutrition information on sodium and fat content, expand nutrition education and food inspection programs, and improve school lunch programs. They also perform an admirable service with their integrity in science database monitoring industry-funded science.

Marlow Foods's 1/146,000 number, by the way, comes from the ratio of consumer complaints to the billion servings of Quorn served. Should one adjust for the Marlow's own estimate of an average 50 servings per consumer, and the CDC's estimate of how often food-borne illness is reported (about 1 report per 39 cases), one arrives at a number not too far from Marlow's own double-blind study in 1977: 9.5% eating mycoprotein reported nausea, 5% in the control group; 3% of the mycoprotein group vomited, 0.5% of the control group.

Finally, note who has a financial interest here (Marlow), and who in the media is accusing CSPI of bias (a Fox News commentator).

Personally, I think Quorn should have a place on grocery shelves. The FDA generally accepts new foods & additives that have adverse effects in a few, so long as there's a infinitesimal chance of fatality or permanent injury, and that seems to be the case with Quorn. But I've seen the labeling on U.S. packages, and if I were a mother tending a vomiting child after a family dinner, learning that Quorn was a potential culprit, I'd be very angry.

i'm, talking about their public statements on quorn, which are, at best, Not Even Wrong in a way that is typical of cranks, or at worst, willfully misleading. the fact that they have an earned reputation is ad hominem defence. like you say, quorn has a place on the shelves, and an organization that somehow reaches the conclusion that it should be banned has clearly lost its way.

I certainly wouldn't defend 1/146000 calculated in that way, but it would be good faith on the anti-quorn people's part to also ignore the 5% telephone survey figure the cspi came up, which is also total nonsense. given your apparent familiarity with medical literature, you should know better than to repeat this as fact.

labelling is fine. accurate labelling requires credible peer-reviewed research, which doesn't exist afaict.

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^^ that tal ronnen recipe! just made it! it is delicious! i subbed out the sake for some random cheap chardonnay and some heavy splashes of mirin.

seriously tasted like restaurant-quality food. so impressed with myself right now, although tbh the recipe is one of the easiest in the world.

ohmigod that looks delicious

wd pay dollar signs for that dish

So did you find the refrigerated box thing??

??

I mean the Gardeins that were not frozen. Sorry, that was bafflingly vague of me.

oh lol yes i found them at whole foods - got the beef tips and the bbq wings too, think maybe i'll try ronnen's beef stew?? just ordered his recipe book tonight!

i am still thinking about how amazing that scallopine was

Shit damn I want to make this so bad now

Oh god I think I am like srsly in <3 w/ this guy atm. I wonder what his favorite Smiths song is?

lol

that recipe looks dope, btw

That udon noodle fried cake was a nice touch - must try.

lol i am not used to patterny dishes and i as like "y did justine put her dinner directly on the tablecloth"

tart w/ potatoes, zucchini, leeks, feta, and dill

steve have you eaten any of these crazy gorgeous desserts: http://www.vegantreats.com/

oh, fuck yes. P much every vegan pizzeria/eatery in PHL+NYC has Vegan Treats desserts on the menu. They are maybe a bit pricey, and I so rarely have room for them after a meal, but oh my damn they are amazing. My friends and I split a (fuckin huge-ass) cinnamon roll w/ crm ch icing once and they were like "uh, dude, I'm pretty sure this isn't vegan". But of course, it was <3

well the dinner i cooked tonight was so so gross and now i'm starving :(

i think it was extra-gross tasting after last night's total success.

sorry to be a downer but can I just

I am sort of sick of this whole "vegans are so pretentious and haughty, let's make fun of them all the time" thing. Like I mean I really fucking loved Scott Pilgrim vs. The World and all but I found the whole super pretentious vegan/vegan police thing sort of uncomfortable and unpleasant. I mean, it is negating all of these legitimate reasons why people become vegan and making it into this big self-absorption/status joke

I guess i just dk why it's so okay and funny and PC to totally rip apart vegans but not Buddhists or Muslims or something

because its not a religion? i dunno, i know a lot of vegans that bend over backwards to be like "its NOT a religion, god, why does everyone assume it is!!!" also btw it's funny to rip apart christians and neocons, so

i mean i totally get why it's irritating/offensive, don't get me wrong. it's just that in a weird way i think that getting ribbed for being self-serious is like a weird and maybe incorrect way of vegans getting mainstreamed? like "yeah yeah i know, vegans can be pretty righteous, but no really this shit is abominable"

Well I mean for a large chunk of ppl, it's about the ethical yuckiness of breeding/slaughtering animals, so to be all "I think this is sort of wrong and it makes me uncomfortable" and then for someone else to just be all "OMG HAHA YOU ARE SUCH A HAUGHTY SHIT" is kind of insulting

And I totally don't feel like it's a legitimate way of mainstreaming veganism. It's a way of mainstreaming this perceived batshit loony ridiculousness of veganism that just makes it harder and harder to get the point across in any serious fashion

I mean we are talking less "Will and Grace" and more, idk, "Beverly Hills Cop" iykwim

I hope you guys find it as lol as I do that this list of "The Religious Affiliation of the 100 Greatest Rock Musicians" has both Robin Gibb and Thom Yorke's religions as "vegan." It just made me think they were v stupid abt "what is a religion."

or maybe you find this lol mostly sad

i think part of the problem is that, as with other "out groups", there's maybe a schism/spectrum within the vegan community as to how veganism ought to be characterized? like some ppl are "i'm vegan and i don't care if you're not, just let me do my thang" and other ppl are "i will not rest until these jags stop murdering animals and polluting the g-d planet." an amiable iteration of the former might tolerate some light jokes (cf azn/gay/jew jokes within some social circles) and an irascible iteration of the latter won't tolerate that shit, even in the mildest sense, and even if it means alienating some peeps.

in scott pilgrim, i sorta got the impression that the vegan police was a joke being made by someone who knew and liked, and respected, vegans, and who probably got a 'heh' from his vegan pals. maybe?

i'm just kinda playing devil's advocate here, but i think that the argument for "funny" stereotypes of vegans (or any out group) is that being self-deprecating is a way of getting a place at the table. its....gross? but it's also got a hell of a track record. can't beat 'em, make 'em laugh. now, obv, i'm guessing that the dude that wrote pilgrim is NOT a vegan, but i'd wager that he has vegan friends who weren't really that bothered by the characterization? nb i have no real reason to believe that other than the fact that a lot of people have vegan friends....which is a pretty recent development!

xp Hahahaha okay yes that is p lol. I mean, there are obviously a lot of facets of religion that apply to veganism but I mean it is really fucking stupid to actually list it on a page of other religions.

The first Scott Pilgrim book had four or five pages devoted to a recipe/how-to-make guide of vegan shepherd's pie.

OTOH the vegan powers guy did come off as a dick. I haven't seen the movie.

No no, I mean, I am a huge fan of self-deprecation and love a good clever joke, but I mean there is a diff btwn Q: What is the hardest part abt rollerblading? A: telling yr parents yr gay (way lol!) and Q: What do you call a gay man in a wheelchair? A: Rol-AIDS (not lol at all). I mean that is a very hyperbolic example (vegan police is totally not an AIDS joke), but I kind of got the feel that it was totally mocking but not at all in a loving/respectful way.

I mean maybe it is just poking fun at the haughty, self-absorbed vegans (which I mean let's be real, there are several of) but if it did it wasn't made very clear. I mean, I was reading one vegan cookbook that was listing all these suggestions of replacements of common phrases that involved animals in any form, like "Instead of saying 'Don't count all your chickens before they hatch', say 'Don't weigh all your tofu before it's coagulated!" or some ridiculous shit and it was like "okay lady you are the reason people won't take us seriously.

IDK perhaps I am totally contradicting myself here.

:O
I have been weighing my tofu all wrong

i just skimmed some interview with the dude that played the vegan and in response to a 'response of the vegan community' q he was all "well he DOES have superpowers etc. i'm guessing they all have a pretty good sense of humor."

i dunno. i guess my own personal reaction is that, generally speaking, letting some stereotypes slide is pretty ok, you just gotta know where to draw the line in the sand. and (not a vegan, mind!) i guess that i wouldn't see a comical superhero in a teenager's movie packed with light and generally affectionate stereotypes as a line-drawing situation. also there is the fact that vegans, though maybe not mainstream and not taken seriously, are not like some repressed group or anything?

xp ok yeah, those two jokes are along the lines of what i was thinking. first: pretty hilarious imo! second: despicable! but vegans dont get beaten up and denied civil rights, you know? i feel really strongly about cycling and car culture and so on, but if someone put a self-righteous cyclist in a movie (its bound to happen) i would either laugh if it was artfully done, or just http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leftkrHJkw1qf8yek.gif if it wasn't.

god its vandermeme again

I mean maybe it is just poking fun at the haughty, self-absorbed vegans (which I mean let's be real, there are several of) but if it did it wasn't made very clear. I mean, I was reading one vegan cookbook that was listing all these suggestions of replacements of common phrases that involved animals in any form, like "Instead of saying 'Don't count all your chickens before they hatch', say 'Don't weigh all your tofu before it's coagulated!" or some ridiculous shit and it was like "okay lady you are the reason people won't take us seriously.

this is really, honestly, how i read it. like i <3 vegans and still try to be as veggie as possible (i am weak), but then i run into a dumpster diving gutterpunk scornful of the wool sweater i got at a thrift store and its like dude?