rolling veggie swag 2011: veg[etari]ans unite and cook the tastiest food imaginable (omnis u shd get in on this, too)

the sheer number of totally meaningless but cleverly written alarmist claims on CSPI quorn website is amazing.

most of the time i feel like sanpaku deserves full marks for reading some very technical stuff about nutrition, but the fact that he will cite this stuff in the same breath makes me doubt his ability to think critically about anything with a whiff of science about it.

but there are mycoproteins

that 5% thing is based on a paid telephone survey whose protocols they didn't reveal, because its results have never been published in a peer reviewed journal. presumably they asked people at the other end of a phone line to self-diagnose something neither surveyor or respondent know the symptoms of. when the number comes out at 5%, rather than double-checking with a smaller sample in a lab, which you might want to do given this v. surprising result (extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence), they write a letter to a medical journal. then, when their letter gets published they write a press release that gets no coverage whatsoever.

boom.

Shit repeats on me like nothing else.hate to use the phrase but I have thrown up a little in the back of my mouth the two times I've had it. Nasty monstrous shite.

throwing up in your mouth doesn't sound like an allergic reaction. it sounds like you don't like it.

I'm not a toddler. It came about 20 minutes after eating it.

ok, wasn't clear from your post.

wow i just read about quorn via wiki. they are gonna feed it to pigs now. and the history of who owns it is tangled. for now anyway the brand is owned by a u.s. private equity firm. i think. via premier foods in the u.k. premier owns tons of cool sounding brands i've never heard of. including Nimble Bread and Atora Shredded Suet! mmmm, suet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Foods

anyway, quorn is, obviously, people.

Premier owns Angel Delight too.

NSFW:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Angel_Delight.jpg

One of my and my wife's favorite from a cookbook we got like 15 years ago:

Sweet & Tangy Butter Beans

2 tbsp vegetable oil
1 cup chopped onions
1 cup sweet red pepper
(or other colored peppers)
1 clove garlic, finely chopped
1 8-oz can salt-free tomato sauce
1/3 cup apple juice
1 tbsp brown sugar
1 tbsp vinegar
1 tsp prepared yellow mustard
2 1-lb cans of butter beans, rinsed & drained
1-1/2 tsp cornstarch
2 tbsp water

Preheat oven to 350-degrees.

Lightly oil a 1-1/2 quart baking dish or spray wiht a non-stick cooking spray.

Heat oil (or vegetable broth/cooking spray) in a large non-stick skillet over medium heat. Add onions, red pepper and garlic. Cook until onions are tender and start to brown, about 10 minutes.

Remove from heat.

Add remaining ingredients, dissolving cornstarch in the 2 tablespoons of water before adding. Mix well.

Transfer to baking dish. Bake, uncovered, 1 hour.

Per serving:
Calories: 181 Fat: 6 g (less if you substitute or reduce oil used for sauteing) Carbohydrates: 26 g Cholesterol: 0 mg Sodium: 299 mg Protein: 7 g

I should get on that shit. I love butter beans.

apple juice! I could fuck with that.

btw my fav new2me vegan blog is vegansaurus

http://vegansaurus.com/post/2596296459/mother-jones-hippies-love-meaty-meat

i don't know y, just dig their stylee

Made this the other day:

http://nedraggett.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/easy-seaweed-soup/

V. tasty.

xxp and OT;

Admittedly I didn't look in depth at the CSPI Quorn reports - but look around the rest of their site, they're by no means a start-up or single issue campaign. Quorn is safe for most, but not all, and whether that's 5% or 0.5% doesn't particularly matter.

The US mandates that the presence of potential allergens like eggs, milk, peanuts, tree nuts, shellfish, soy or wheat appear at the end of the ingredients list. By their teens, or after an allergist's consult, most will have encountered these foods and know whether they tolerated them well. By contrast, most won't have knowingly consumed British soil fungus, and hence it seems sensible to require some mention on the box that the major ingredient causes allergic reactions in a small proportion of consumers. Sure, they might lose some first-time customers, and parents who themselves tolerate mycoprotein might be reluctant to feed it to their kids, but those are reasonable responses.

Quoth makes me phenomenally flatulent.

Quorn, rather. (autocorrect)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2wdzXgmraD0/SVTGOb8f1MI/AAAAAAAAAVA/HPUVkv6SLtk/s400/quoth+front.jpg

lolol

Quorn is safe for most, but not all, and whether that's 5% or 0.5% doesn't particularly matter.

no one is saying it's 0.5%. an environmental pressure group says it's 5%. the company that owns the patent says its 1 in 150,000 (0.0007%). that is a huge difference, and which, if either, is right qualitatively affects the debate.

the cspi, who are a fundamentally unserious crank organization as far as i can tell, are not calling for labelling by the way. they are calling for a ban. they need to get on peanuts imo. those things kill people.

hay im tryna eat more protein now, is there any vegetarian stuff you can eat for breakfast that has more protein in it. like tips for that.

like maybe i should just start eating meat i mean omg

you could eat eggs if that doesn't bother you

oatmeal and peanut butter imo

omelette (optionally w/ kale)
oatmeal (optionally w/ nuts)

u could do smoothies with protein powder, too, if that's your bag

I eat cottage cheese a breakfast, dunno if that's actually nutritionally sound tho

w/peanut butter and honey on bread

thats what i did this morning! but yeah, im kinda hamstrung by not liking eggs. i will teach myself to eventually, i can eat mushrooms now and i used to think they were gak. I dont believe in not liking food.

I used to make an and cover it in salsa

make an ~omelet~ rather

I mean yeah but fuck eggs imo

~bias revealed~

tofu scramble if you're averse to eggs. trying to remember how my friend makes this:

sautee chopped-up onion/garlic

add tofu (cut into medium pieces)(it breaks up as you scramble)

add soy sauce (or skip that, depending on what you're going for) and spices of choice

mushrooms are good, and any suitable veggies you have around (leafy greens, whatev)

scramble, taste, adjust seasoning as needed, eat.

sorry i don't have a more detailed recipe but it's good! and great for experimentation/adjusting for difft sorts of flavors.

Tofu scramble is amaaaazing. Plax, make that.

i hate the taste of fried/boiled/poached eggs, but i find omelettes/scrambled taste completely different. maybe worth trying an egg omelette if you haven't had one for a while plax.

Plax: Beans on toast! With Marmite! And toasted pumpkin seeds!

Does anyone else get stomach ache if they eat peanut butter for a few days in a row? It's delicious but I think it just sits in yr tum for ages.

OT & xp caek:

I understand you may have enjoyed your experience with Quorn, but CSPI is anything but crank. They've been around 39 years and are primarily known for lobbying efforts in the US to label processed foods with nutrition information on sodium and fat content, expand nutrition education and food inspection programs, and improve school lunch programs. They also perform an admirable service with their integrity in science database monitoring industry-funded science.

Marlow Foods's 1/146,000 number, by the way, comes from the ratio of consumer complaints to the billion servings of Quorn served. Should one adjust for the Marlow's own estimate of an average 50 servings per consumer, and the CDC's estimate of how often food-borne illness is reported (about 1 report per 39 cases), one arrives at a number not too far from Marlow's own double-blind study in 1977: 9.5% eating mycoprotein reported nausea, 5% in the control group; 3% of the mycoprotein group vomited, 0.5% of the control group.

Finally, note who has a financial interest here (Marlow), and who in the media is accusing CSPI of bias (a Fox News commentator).

Personally, I think Quorn should have a place on grocery shelves. The FDA generally accepts new foods & additives that have adverse effects in a few, so long as there's a infinitesimal chance of fatality or permanent injury, and that seems to be the case with Quorn. But I've seen the labeling on U.S. packages, and if I were a mother tending a vomiting child after a family dinner, learning that Quorn was a potential culprit, I'd be very angry.

i'm, talking about their public statements on quorn, which are, at best, Not Even Wrong in a way that is typical of cranks, or at worst, willfully misleading. the fact that they have an earned reputation is ad hominem defence. like you say, quorn has a place on the shelves, and an organization that somehow reaches the conclusion that it should be banned has clearly lost its way.

I certainly wouldn't defend 1/146000 calculated in that way, but it would be good faith on the anti-quorn people's part to also ignore the 5% telephone survey figure the cspi came up, which is also total nonsense. given your apparent familiarity with medical literature, you should know better than to repeat this as fact.

labelling is fine. accurate labelling requires credible peer-reviewed research, which doesn't exist afaict.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5126/5341101015_f9dbdbab75.jpg

^^ that tal ronnen recipe! just made it! it is delicious! i subbed out the sake for some random cheap chardonnay and some heavy splashes of mirin.

seriously tasted like restaurant-quality food. so impressed with myself right now, although tbh the recipe is one of the easiest in the world.

ohmigod that looks delicious

wd pay dollar signs for that dish

So did you find the refrigerated box thing??

??

I mean the Gardeins that were not frozen. Sorry, that was bafflingly vague of me.

oh lol yes i found them at whole foods - got the beef tips and the bbq wings too, think maybe i'll try ronnen's beef stew?? just ordered his recipe book tonight!

i am still thinking about how amazing that scallopine was

Shit damn I want to make this so bad now

Oh god I think I am like srsly in <3 w/ this guy atm. I wonder what his favorite Smiths song is?

does that vegan meatloaf work as reheated leftovers?

yes it does!

So much cheap daikon at the markets atm; anyone have any simple-ish uses? Might give kkakdugi a go though my track record w/pickles isn't the greatest.

Pickled daikon is good in banh mi sandwiches.

... And that's literally it. I can't think of anything else to do with it. (I've barbecued it, which was okay-ish.)

Make pork bone soup with daikon slices

Whoops this is the veggie swag thread. Ban me for life

banh mi for life

I really like Takuan (Japanese picked daikon)

xpost or...2 weeks

Also, cool thread! My resolution this year (for the 3rd or 4th year in a row) is to be a better cook. I'm cooking 2 dishes from the Cafe Paradiso cookbook at this very moment!

Giving kkakdugi/kimchi a go w/the daikon, though I'm leery of my substitions. Anyone have any thoughts on Fuschia Dunlop's recipes? Giving her veggie mapo tofu a go tonight.

Local vegan place makes a tasty seitan banh mi with daikon.

Tip: if if you have an East Asian grocer nearby, looked out for dried sliced King Oyster (eryngii, king trumpet) mushrooms. Aside from being perhaps the healthiest mushroom based on its ergothioneine and β-1,3 glucan content, when reconstituted in water (broth, etc) and sautéed, it makes a terrific meat substitute. It's pretty mild in flavor, so unlike some less unusual mushrooms it won't overpower dishes. My omni family liked them at Thanksgiving, but I suspect they'd work well in a banh mi as well.

ay i guess this is the most recently updated thread but hold up we got a veggie drive thru in my city

http://eatatearthburger.com/

Made some homemade sushi this week.. It is an underrated thing to make it home. Buy some white grain rice, rice vinegar, nori sheets, and some seafood and/or vegetables and you will feast like a king or queen for weeks. Cheap and goes a long way

SOFT SERVE ICE CREAM!?!

it's p good! i think it's a coconut milk base. just basic vanilla cone or cup for now. we like to get a brownie and put some on top.

M Bison your plant-based drive-thru is closed on Saturday. Does that mean they're Seventh Day Adventists or just like to party?

what do you think ;)

The former obv

excited about this thread since i can't eat beef/pork/lamb right now and i want to add more diversity to my diet (already sick of chicken). would love recommendations for vegetable-centric things that aren't carb-heavy.

hail seitan basically