EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

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yglesias is good on urban issues - not that he says anything new, but at least he's talking to relatively wide audience. but still...super annoying on a personal level. I like klein.

iatee, Monday, 3 January 2011 20:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yglesias is a philosophy major in every word he writes and this is awesome about him.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 3 January 2011 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

ugh this is gonna be like that week i read glenn greenwald isnt it

plax (ico), Monday, 3 January 2011 21:39 (fifteen years ago)

neither of these guys is much like glenn greenwald

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 3 January 2011 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

unless you have some sort of distaste for american journalists, then yes it'll be like that lol

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Monday, 3 January 2011 22:20 (fifteen years ago)

these guys are on the sensible/technocratic side of the great progressive blogger divide - greenwald exists on the polemic/activist shore - which is not to say hes any more or less otm, just that hes harder to take

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:39 (fifteen years ago)

nah, that was what i liked abt greenwald its just that in the end i was like "wtf this is not my country i dont care"

plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:40 (fifteen years ago)

haha

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:41 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but usa is in charge of the rest of the countries iirc

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

when krugman is updating regularly i don't have much of a reason to follow klein too closely - i don't hate him or anything though

fruit of the goon (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 00:42 (fifteen years ago)

[Yglesias is] a shitty writer imo

Actually, typos aside, he's not. He's remarkably concise and clear even if he liberally sprinkles his posts with "negative externalities" this and "regulatory capture" that jargon.

nomar little (Leee), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:18 (fifteen years ago)

yglesias is embarrassed about having been a socialist and will occasionally mix in some right wing tinted bullshit to try and build a bit of center cred. i have grown to hate him. klein is kind of a young dinner party blogger but i keep the feed there to flick thru. i enjoy greenwald's secular fire and brimstone and i get angry about the same things as him. his biases are so transparent that is is v easy to think critically about what he writes.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:41 (fifteen years ago)

maybe ill face the winner of this one off w/greenwald

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

can't wait

Mordy, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

feel like klein is getting sold short here - he was hands down the best all around guy on health care reform

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:46 (fifteen years ago)

his coverage was comprehensive but his opinions were so milquetoast it was like reading a blog by that dude on gawker

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:47 (fifteen years ago)

feel like his opinions were pretty otm especially compared w/almost everyone elses which basically added up to OMG PUBLIC OPTION

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

they both kind of remind me of how a lot of people move to dc and get kind of absorbed into the weird political networky culture here at a pretty young age. dc is so conservative.

would love to run into these guys at a bbq and get into a drunken political argument

since the democratic primaries, even when drunk i try to sidestep political arguments. i ran into weigel at a bar one time but did not pick a fight. he is a good dude imo. that's actually one of the few blogs i regularly read - don't have time/energy to slog through a lot of content anymore.

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:03 (fifteen years ago)

yeah ive had v little exposure to it but dc political culture seen close up seems v strange

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:06 (fifteen years ago)

seems so unbearable. lotta people wearing new balances on the weekend and shit.

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:09 (fifteen years ago)

they r not sexy rip

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

never trust a libertarian

or a journalist

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

lol i own 2 pair of new balances

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

just sayin if u cannot figure how to dress how are u gonna run the country

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

daria i seen the shoes youre buying, you know what youre doing

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:12 (fifteen years ago)

new balance are great sneakers, just dont wear them on the weekend or max will shun u

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:12 (fifteen years ago)

you pride yourself on living in the mouth of the dragon but being fireproof, and then one day you realize it is saturday and you are in whole foods buying ingredients for a cool mac n cheese with a twist recipe you found online, wearing new balance sneakers

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:14 (fifteen years ago)

^^ gets it

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

i mean tbh i would rather live in boston than dc, at least some people there have accents

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:15 (fifteen years ago)

where would ilx end up siding on a boston vs dc poll?

iatee, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

it would turn into an argument about pizza

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

harDCore

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

whole foods, new balance sneakers, check. i don't really care about recipes

boston sucks, accents there are horrible. i hate boston

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:17 (fifteen years ago)

in that case the poll would require a 'neither' option xp

iatee, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

i am in boston with an accent. thx daria.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

except <3 the patriots but the rest of new england can have them. the rest of new england hates boston more than anyone

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:18 (fifteen years ago)

sorry roberto! team providence.

providence: boston
baltimore: dc

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

daria u from pvd? i didnt know

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:19 (fifteen years ago)

nope not at all just spent some time there. i like it. it's like baltimore kinda. lots more weird than the other major city, more arts scene, better music, etc

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:20 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i mean its obv the best place in new england

best pizza too, except new haven i guess

max, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:21 (fifteen years ago)

except <3 the patriots but the rest of new england can have them. the rest of new england hates boston more than anyone

― daria-g, Monday, January 3, 2011 8:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so obviously the worst possible thing to love about boston outside of racism

ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:24 (fifteen years ago)

um http://images.starpulse.com/AMGPhotos/pic200/drp000/p017/p01795e5ahc.jpg

balls, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:26 (fifteen years ago)

plus http://auntiefashion.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/the-afflecks.jpg

balls, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

part of the thing about the dc blogger culture is.. i wonder where they go from there, a couple years down the road? they've all been doing this for a while. doesn't the format become sort of limiting? there are a lot of progressive bloggers who i don't check in on too much b/c they don't say anything too surprising. rather spend time reading ta-nehisi coates which is one of my fave things on the internets

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:27 (fifteen years ago)

how is the format more limiting than regular journalism? seems less

iatee, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:28 (fifteen years ago)

gotta constantly crank out posts, content content content all the time, on twitters all the time. i have never had a blog but just my experience of being really into blogworld as a reader for a couple years, it's like.. the relevance of things gets weirdly distorted so that you might think some trivial issue is a big f***ing deal just because everyone's talking about it & the politico thinks talking about it will help them Win The Day

daria-g, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:33 (fifteen years ago)

you pride yourself on living in the mouth of the dragon but being fireproof, and then one day you realize it is saturday and you are in whole foods buying ingredients for a cool mac n cheese with a twist recipe you found online, wearing new balance sneakers

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, January 4, 2011 2:14 AM (10 minutes ago)

wow omg observational comedy

plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:48 (fifteen years ago)

did i tell u abt the time i got pretzels instead of peanuts on a plane?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:53 (fifteen years ago)

what is the deal with that?

plax (ico), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 02:59 (fifteen years ago)

http://i51.tinypic.com/2uthppl.jpg

gr8080, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 03:07 (fifteen years ago)

i will

lag∞n, Friday, 3 July 2026 10:40 (eight hours ago)

You got the Mamdani Method and the Mangionne Method and I suppose both have their pluses and minuses. Maybe there’s a secret third thing but I never see it clearly articulated

OG Bobby Sacamano (will), Friday, 3 July 2026 11:11 (seven hours ago)

one issue is its a complicated problem another is a lot of powerful interests dont want to solve it

lag∞n, Friday, 3 July 2026 11:16 (seven hours ago)

don't forget the Chuck Mangione Method

boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 July 2026 11:30 (seven hours ago)

Smooth.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 July 2026 12:37 (six hours ago)

flugelbundance

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Friday, 3 July 2026 14:22 (four hours ago)


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