"Can I say you're my girlfriend on Facebook?"

think about how much this forum has changed in 10 years

if I told you pitchfork would still be around 10 years ago would you have believed me

I def feel the internet has been 'stabilizing' for the past few years as all the norms get hipped to it and change becomes much harder to effect

idk

yeah but i wouldn't have foreseen p4k's growth

That sort of shit embeds, it doesnt go away; if it did, Windows wouldve been superceded a long time back.

― Ex Loin Tamer (Trayce), Monday, January 3, 2011 2:18 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

eh feel like windows is the exception rather than the rule when it comes to this type shit - also there are no cto's making decisions abt what social network people can use at this point

just feel that for loads of its users its like their entire lives are on fb's servers - all their thousands of photos, links that they posted, blog entries, contacts - don't really see how a new hot social networking site could easily wrest that away from fb

I def feel the internet has been 'stabilizing' for the past few years as all the norms get hipped to it and change becomes much harder to effect

― dayo, Monday, January 3, 2011 2:34 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

facebook passed myspace in traffic less than three years ago, think abt it

if someone offered me facebook stock i would take it

yeah but the usefulness of social networks depends on their size, I can only see fb getting taken over by a network that does something else entirely (that fb can't copy) which then slowly becomes a regular social network too. I can't imagine what that would be, which is why I am worth 0 billion dollars. xp

comparing fb and myspace is misleading because myspace was, even at its peak, a tiny % of the world

hey guys when is ILX gonna have an IPO

its really amazing how quickly people have accepted social networking as this regular static thing thats essential to their lives

I find it more amazing that they didn't catch on in 2003 or something, considering how simple the technology is

I mean I guess it had to be a slow developing thing, but it could have started long before it did

comparing fb and myspace is misleading because myspace was, even at its peak, a tiny % of the world

― iatee, Monday, January 3, 2011 2:39 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

myspace had over 100m users, besides the entire point of my comparison was to point out that fbs ubiquity is an incredibly recent phenomenon

also the rise in fb's success is pretty correlate to the rise of smartphones, no?

its really amazing how quickly people have accepted social networking as this regular static thing thats essential to their lives

― ice cr?m, Monday, 3 January 2011 18:40 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's still possible to exist without social networking atm though. Not that I'm countering your point, I just think we're not there yet. btw I am not looking forward to the day when having a fb account is as essential as having an email address.

I sorta consider them two different phenomenons, but I still have a $30 phone xp

myspace had over 100m users, besides the entire point of my comparison was to point out that fbs ubiquity is an incredibly recent phenomenon

― ice cr?m, Monday, January 3, 2011 3:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but how many of those 100m were returning users or regular users

Livejournal was similar in a lot of ways to FB - your own group of 'friends', personalised profile etc. I'm kind of surprised fb and myspace took as long as they did to get where they did - but then it wasn't long ago that doing anything 'on the internet' was kind of a niche thing. My group of friends all had Myspaces but no-one in my office did, for example.

fb is well ahead of smartphones, but yeah obvs thats a huge factor in this whole thing

my fb account more already essential than my email for most communication, email mostly just for formal stuff or sending files xp

myspace had over 100m users, besides the entire point of my comparison was to point out that fbs ubiquity is an incredibly recent phenomenon

― ice cr?m, Monday, January 3, 2011 3:43 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but how many of those 100m were returning users or regular users

― dayo, Monday, January 3, 2011 2:46 AM (48 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont know myspace was huge, not as huge as facebook, p shitty site overall tbh

there are a lot of shitty bands out there

I find it more amazing that they didn't catch on in 2003 or something, considering how simple the technology is

― iatee, Monday, 3 January 2011 07:42 (3 minutes ago)

^^^^^^^^

this was why i was rmde a bit at the hyping of zuckybro as a 'programming genius'....i mean he might be but facebook is insufficient evidence, his talents lie elsewhere

i think fbook's initial success was based on a sense of 'solidity' contra the fly-by-night tackiness of myspace et al, and short of a major fuckup they should be able to stay afloat that way

it's just the maximizing revenue that's difficult but yeah taking that raw data and reselling it is def a challenge

Facebook places/locations (?) is where the fb/smartphone thing melds properly imo.

myspace was totally on some 'in my world of young ppl' shit and pretty exclusionary, also almost actively user-unfriendly

also I don't wanna come off as college bro after a bowl hit but it seems that once something has attained 'critical mass' it just kind of has so much inertia that its pretty much unstoppable/unchangeable? look at the English measuring system ffs lol

Myspace was revolting, all the on-screen junk and flashing shit everywhere. Dunno who in that org thought such a design ethic was going to have longevity.

myspace was totally on some 'in my world of young ppl' shit and pretty exclusionary, also almost actively user-unfriendly

yeah nobody called myspace 'exclusionary' at the time - when facebook was very explicitly exclusionary. but that's a really good point - myspace's home page never ever attempted to look like a site that everyone on the world would join.

also I don't wanna come off as college bro after a bowl hit but it seems that once something has attained 'critical mass' it just kind of has so much inertia that its pretty much unstoppable/unchangeable? look at the English measuring system ffs lol

― dayo, Monday, 3 January 2011 18:51 (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Everything changes though. All it takes is for the playing field to shake and for fb to be looking the other way for a few minutes.

hah those are two different uses of exclusionary - for myspace I meant like, if you weren't part of that world of young ppl you didn't feel 'cool' enough to join

facebook was just basic exclusionary

when you consider what myspace had done (seemingly took what friendster "invented" and turned it more mainstream and corporate and successful for a time), they blew it even more than friendster did, which was i think to focus on a demo that would eventually outgrow it, and facebook decided to make a site that was friendly to everyone of any age. quite possibly zero people i know use myspace now. facebook could go that route too, i know a lot of people who are pretty much over it. i think it can be quite exhausting to feel the need to have a particular website to return to all the time (lol?)

be curious to see how going public will affect facebooks mojo - agility and freedom has been a big part of their success - everything becomes a lot more constrained once you have to deal w/hitting quarterly targets regulators new bord members etc

i don't think it's a challop to suggest that in five years facebook may be as relevant as myspace is today.

i don't think it's a challop if it's subjunctive

lol u guyz faccebook in 2k16 will be like a fuckin juggalo4lyfe myspace page not updated in three years, just a sad clown face crying into the ether of indifference

^^

challop

the downfall of fb will probably be a refusal to adequately integrated animated gif support into the newsfeed

facebook was just basic exclusionary

I feel like the slowwww roll out among colleges was easily the most genius thing fb's done, the movie hits on this theme but maybe doesn't even explore it enough. I remember when my friends who weren't at a facebook college were waiting super eagerly to join.

Facebook places/locations (?) is where the fb/smartphone thing melds properly imo.

― Bentley Rhythm Trayce (Autumn Almanac), Monday, January 3, 2011 2:49 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah see this for instance - theres no particular evidence fb is gonna get location right - which when it blows up in conjunction w/the internet of things is gonna make the social networking boom look like a mere puff of smoke - of course social is gonna be tied into that too - but will fb be the boss of this shit or just a cog - maybe being a cog will be enough to justify $50b - maybe theyll end up the biggest company in the world - maybe they will die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsnMGVJRE6g

theres no particular evidence fb is gonna get location right

As long as fb's advertisers think/believe fb has got location right, it will pay money for the souls of fb users and the actual accuracy/worth of location will mean sod-all.

so I mean there's every reason in the world to believe fb will fail on location but when you've got friends volunteering the location of their friends (against their will) you've basically got a massive spread of active location data that gives advertisers wet dreams.

until location has to do actual things like interact w/rfid tags xp

there's still got to be an incentive for giving your location, impressing your friends isn't enough for most people

dayo just checked in to the Mandarin Oriental!

giving yr location to yr friends isnt really the thing, giving it to walmart so they can offer you a special deal is

If it's the default on smartphones, the only incentive that matters is the one that rouses people to prevent fb using their phone's GPS function.

xp to iatee

that would be pretty rad, if wal-mart gave me a discount on magnums because it knew from facebook that I go through a lot of magnums

BRAGGIN 2011

fb already has form in fucking over its users for its own means so I don't see how location will be any different. Seems obvious to me that a controversial but effective opt-out future for location data is on the cards.