The comments on this article are astonishing:
"Many of my conservative friends — who oppose both civil unions and gay marriage and object to rampant promiscuity — often act as if there’s some grand alternative lifestyle for gays. But there isn’t."
Not sure I agree that celibacy is impossible (some of us manage it at times, whether we want to or not). But even conceding that point, so what? You don't have a normal mating instinct? Tough. You're SOL. Just like the woman who wants to be in a marine infantry unit, or the man who wants to work at Hooters. To ask that society re-define itself to accommodate your condition, consequences to society be damned, is outrageously self-centered. And to claim it as a matter of right is beyond the pale.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 December 2010 14:32 (thirteen years ago) link
astonishing and appalling. their befuddled logic makes my head hurt.
You very much underestimate the harm that gay "marriage" will do to marriage it will make the term meaningless and useless. Exactly what we don't need right now.
Would you like this situation to play out in a bar one day...good looking man, "Would you like to get a room."
person being hit on, "Ahh I am married you know..."
good looking man, "I am not sure what you mean by married is it just a friendship thing or what?"
That would be a sad world to live in.
― hubertus bigend (m coleman), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Jonah is such a weasel/that column is pure disingenuous hater-bait.
― hubertus bigend (m coleman), Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:09 (thirteen years ago) link
man you ain't kidding, those comments are wild
some dude quotes an anti-gay marriage book:
"[The origins of] close-relationship theory...can be traced back behind the likes of Alfred Kinsey or Margaret Mead to Friedrich Engels...it interests itself in gratification, not renunciation. In short it offers a radically different account of the nature and function of marriage, and so also the politics of marriage."
― goole, Thursday, 30 December 2010 15:59 (thirteen years ago) link
the book itself has a great title tho
http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Bastards-Essays-End-Marriage/dp/0978440242/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1293629066&sr=8-6
Would you like this situation to play out in a bar one day...good looking man, "Would you like to get a room."person being hit on, "yes I would like to share a room. Hotels are very expensive in this town. Do you like playing card games? I love Crazy 8s!"good looking man, "wait I was trying to hit on you."person being hit on, "oh I thought you were just being friendly."That would be a sad world to live in.
person being hit on, "yes I would like to share a room. Hotels are very expensive in this town. Do you like playing card games? I love Crazy 8s!"
good looking man, "wait I was trying to hit on you."
person being hit on, "oh I thought you were just being friendly."
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 30 December 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.alternativeright.com/main/the-magazine/chestnuts-and-silver-bells/
oh god just read the whole thing
merry christmas, from steve sailer
― goole, Monday, 3 January 2011 17:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Be Good, MembersJanuary 4, 2011 10:33 A.M.By Kathryn Jean Lopez
It is a good move by John Boehner to have nothing to do with tomorrow night’s swanky, PAC-sponsored LeAnn Rimes concert to raise money for the reelection of some freshman Republicans. Among other things, someone clearly didn’t learn from the recent Shape magazine controversy over Rimes. I’m a huge fan of redemption — it’s my only hope — but freshmen coming to Washington and celebrating with a star most recently best known for adultery isn’t quite coming to town on the right foot.
Saying no to a drop-by, on the other hand, is. Declining a reception invitation is something congressmen ought to feel completely comfortable doing. Hitting the cocktail circuit may not be the best use of their evenings — for their constituents, for their family, for their moral health.
Bobby Jindal has some advice for Washington — and all of us — in his new book on leadership: “All people — regardless of their job or role in society — have the responsibility to notice when they are viewed as a role model and live up to that responsibility. No excuses. That admiring kid of today could be a political leader, athlete, parent or teacher of tomorrow.”
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
god help me i just looked up what the leann rimes shape magazine controversy is
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:21 (thirteen years ago) link
I didn't know there was a controversy!
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
someone clearly didn’t learn from the recent Shape magazine controversy over Rimes
clearly. clearly.
― goole, Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
a star most recently best known for adultery
Like these people ever thought twice about giving column inches or web space to Newt Gingrich or any other serial adulterer from the GOP.
― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 17:41 (thirteen years ago) link
Jonah Goldberg write: "I’ve been reading the instant-reaction on Twitter and on the web and I’ve been trying to filter out the urge to vent my rage at those who immediately shoe-horned these awful crimes into their ideological prism."
I wrote a comment to respond which I have no idea if they'll approve but I wanted to share it here:
"When someone decides to commit a violent act against anyone they are generally circumscribing themselves outside the normative socio-political arena. No one in the standard political discourse would ever dream of assassinating a politician, so these individuals are already outside the ideological prisms of Democrat (or liberal) and Republican (or conservative). Yet if we pretend like our normal discourses have absolutely no affect on these non-normative actors then we give up any responsibility (and agency) in the kind of community and culture we live in. Did using bullseye icons in a political map convince this man to attempt this assassination? I don't know. But I don't think the question is inappropriate. If that question is inappropriate, we might as well never ask about the influence of the things we write and discuss on the culture. And if the things we write and discuss have no effect on the culture than places like NRO are just a waste of space and time. Alternatively, these forums are worthwhile and can impact the culture both positively and negatively. And when something negative occurs, it is our duty to ask why and how we may have contributed to it (just like we might celebrate when we see a positive correlation)."
― Mordy, Sunday, 9 January 2011 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link
can you link to the goldberg post
― gr8080, Sunday, 9 January 2011 00:55 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/256671/horror-day-jonah-goldberg
obv the real problem is that Jonah's response to something like this is smarmy self-righteousness. he can't even express sympathy without lashing out ideologically (lol irony).
― Mordy, Sunday, 9 January 2011 00:58 (thirteen years ago) link
Your comment is there, and it's obviously caused the other commenters to be more reflective. Like this guy:
"There's something to note in the reaction of the Left to this incident. If the dead were white store clerks, the Left would have nothing to say. After all, white store clerks have no value to them.
The victims were Democrats. They have value to the Left, not as real flesh and blood people, but as political tools. Therefore, they make for a useful corpse.
It is in times like these the cold blooded materialism of the left shines through. Human beings only have value if they serve a political purpose. If not, living or dead, the Left has no interest in them."
― President Keyes, Sunday, 9 January 2011 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
Message to the world’s Krugmanites: Get used to it. We’re on the march, we’re targeting you, you’re in our crosshairs, and, no, this is not an incitement to “hate” or political divisiveness: It is what politics in a democracy is all about.
http://www.nationalreview.com/sites/nationalreview.com/files/10.jpg
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Monday, 10 January 2011 11:17 (thirteen years ago) link
meanwhile, Nordlinger descends further into senility
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/256694/again-and-again-jay-nordlinger
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Monday, 10 January 2011 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link
amazed by the indignation on NRO @ liberals "slandering" right-wingers over the AZ shootings. OTT even by the corner's standard. they feel defensive & yes GUILTY is what i think.
― hubertus bigend (m coleman), Monday, 10 January 2011 11:58 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spot/256955/term-blood-libel-more-common-you-might-think
lol that URL
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Today's been fun!
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
oh god I just stumbled across Goldberg's post about Mein Kampf
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:29 (thirteen years ago) link
ain't he smart?
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:33 (thirteen years ago) link
I liked this comment in the 'blood libel' post
Regardless, Palin's speech was far from classy or honest or decorous, as one poster wrote. Her statement can be boiled down into three simple parts1. Criminals are 100% responsible for their acts and rhetoric can't affect what they choose to do.2. All this left-wing rhetoric is inciting criminals to threaten me and my family, despite what I just said.3. Because you see, the real issue in this event is how much of a victim I am.
― onimotopoeic (onimo), Thursday, 13 January 2011 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link
bgates01/13/11 16:11
I don't recall the pleas for civility or hand-wringing over allusions to historical slanders against the Jewish people during the "Pontius Pilate was a governor" phase of the campaign a few years ago.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 January 2011 21:18 (thirteen years ago) link
anti-semitic but pro-israel
― ich bin ein ilxor (deej), Thursday, 13 January 2011 21:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201101130016
― gr8080, Thursday, 13 January 2011 22:12 (thirteen years ago) link
how many words do you think palin could get through without mentioning "supporting Israel" if you asked her about Judaism? over/under gotta be ~6.
― bnw, Thursday, 13 January 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link
Limbaugh v. Krauthammer apparently:
‘I was going to name my first child Krauthammer, even if it was a girl, but no more.’January 14, 2011 2:03 P.M.By Charles Krauthammer So said Rush today (reports Kathryn Lopez) after our disagreement over the Tucson speech.
Now you know why I returned Rush’s volley on Fox last night: I’ve just saved that poor little girl a world of hurt.
― Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 January 2011 19:14 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/257281/mlk-american-hero-laureate-jay-nordlinger
imagine if MLK had lived...to regret saying mean things about Barry Goldwater!
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Monday, 17 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
lol
― *gets the power* (deej), Monday, 17 January 2011 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link
it is true that goldwater believed in the freedom to be oppressive, rather than the fascism of the feds forcing them not to
comments there are particularly amazing
― goole, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 05:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/257410/unions-v-management-jonah-goldberg
jonah g. in "smug asshole" shocker
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Tuesday, 18 January 2011 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/257366/sinner-re-soccer-jay-nordlinger
some excellent comments on that one
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
u mean like "I do firmly believe that there is a leftist interest in establishing soccer in the U.S. in an attempt to remove yet another thing that sets my country apart from the rest of the world"
― zvookster, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:38 (thirteen years ago) link
communist kickball!
― brownie, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:42 (thirteen years ago) link
[Limbaugh v. Krauthammer apparently:
‘I was going to name my first child Krauthammer, even if it was a girl, but no more.’January 14, 2011 2:03 P.M.By Charles KrauthammerSo said Rush today (reports Kathryn Lopez) after our disagreement over the Tucson speech.
Now you know why I returned Rush’s volley on Fox last night: I’ve just saved that poor little girl a world of hurt
lol @ the idea of Rush spawn
― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 21:49 (thirteen years ago) link
vom @ the idea of Rush spawn
― chev rivera (stevie), Thursday, 20 January 2011 08:20 (thirteen years ago) link
hoo-wee
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/257658/black-abortions-forbidden-topic-peter-kirsanow
― goole, Friday, 21 January 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link
yeesh
― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Saturday, 22 January 2011 00:43 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/258427/aborting-race-card-kathryn-jean-lopez
K-Lo is still a naive idiot i see
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Monday, 31 January 2011 18:11 (thirteen years ago) link
i don't think this is as flattering as Nordlinger assumes (David Pryce-Jones can't even speak Arabic)
I’ve noticed something the last few days — something that gives us a human lesson, I think: Those who know the most about the Middle East are saying the least, when it comes to the turmoil in Egypt. Or they are speaking most cautiously. They’re quickest to say, “I really don’t know. I don’t know the exact nature of this, or how it will turn out.” They seem to be humblest, about what can be known, now.I’m talking about Bernard Lewis, David Pryce-Jones, Amir Taheri, Fouad Ajami — people like that. These are men who have spent years and years in the Middle East, studying its politics, peoples, and languages, taking in everything possible. Those who know less speak in far more confident tones. They are even cocksure. I’m not sure we should trust anyone who speaks in those tones, just now.
I’m talking about Bernard Lewis, David Pryce-Jones, Amir Taheri, Fouad Ajami — people like that. These are men who have spent years and years in the Middle East, studying its politics, peoples, and languages, taking in everything possible. Those who know less speak in far more confident tones. They are even cocksure. I’m not sure we should trust anyone who speaks in those tones, just now.
― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
also bernard lewis is a racist dickhole so the less he talks the better off we all are
― max, Thursday, 3 February 2011 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
he was the guy fantasizing about what HE WOULDA done during the va tech shooting, right? because that was also a good human lesson.
― bnw, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:17 (thirteen years ago) link
that mighta been derbyshire, they all look alike ¯\(°_°)/¯
― bnw, Thursday, 3 February 2011 22:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Maggie Gallagher's National Organization for Marriage site misunderstands cartoon, steals bandwidth, gets trolled.
― bien-penisant vibrator (Phil D.), Friday, 4 February 2011 17:56 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't think this is true at all fwiw
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:01 (thirteen years ago) link
I mean between him and Edward Said I'm pretty firmly in the middle (Lewis is overly stuffy and Said's a bit of a jackass), but Lewis' ideas/comments tend to get distorted/misused in the political arena
― bien-pensant vibe (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 February 2011 18:06 (thirteen years ago) link
cool
― max, Friday, 4 February 2011 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link