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that last episode was so good, and so bloody! cicero's neck omg!

also, killing rich merchants to pay the army? whoa
i've been thinking and talking a lot lately about (the failed/ongoing project of) democracy, and this show keeps coming up. interesting.

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 22 February 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

The proto-fascism of the late republic/early empire has always fascinated. Read Monesquieu's 'The Spirit of Laws', rrobyn.

― Michael White, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

thanks!
(and thanks internet - http://www.constitution.org/cm/sol-02.htm)
a friend of mine actually brought this up when the first season was on, but i forgot about it. totally interesting!

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 22 February 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I think Phillipi explains why this series is only ten episodes.

― Gukbe, Thursday, 22 February 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm two weeks behind, so I can't contribute much (except my undying love of Titus Pullo, and some confusion re: all the "Attia can't act" stuff), but where is the love for the Town Crier (or whatever he actually's called)!?!?! I live for his oratorial semaphore!

― David R., Friday, 23 February 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

On IMDB they call him the News Reader.

I enjoyed the super goriness of the most recent episode.

― accentmonkey, Friday, 23 February 2007 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't realize my love for titus pullo was so strong until this season, but damn...
and lookit him, aw

http://www.serialseries.ch/mm/Rome_stevenson.jpg

― rrrobyn, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream one night that I was running away from him. He wasn't lovely then, let me tell you.

― accentmonkey, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

SPOILERS ABOUND!

Titus Pullo and Sayid (Lost) are pretty much dreamy.
This last episode of Rome bothered me because...I am supposed to believe that Cicero is killed by Pullo and the last words he wrote were made into a hat for Vorenus' kids?
let's put history into a neatly wrapped up newspaper!
It's typical in television - and it's weird that we know they (HBO) cancelled the series. But, please.
Does everything have to be a link to another story?

Brutus' death was amazing.
The last stand was amazing.
The warriors going forth on command was amazing.
And i liked Vorenus and the kids being happy in the country.
I don't like it when it gets contrived.

― aimurchie, Friday, 23 February 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Wish they hadn't killed Eirenne like they did.

I'm digging the Aventine stuff, which surprises me slightly.

and OMG, Posca married!

I liked Octavian's "oh, just so ya know" talk to Livia re: beating you from time to time for sexual pleasure.

― Gukbe, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

You mean OMG PULLO MAN TONGUE!

Did HBO actually cancel the series, or was it supposed to be short-lived? I can't see the series being worth much once Anthony gets dispatched, unless they're going to play that clip of Purefoy calling Octavian "BOY" in every episode of the 3rd season.

― David R., Monday, 12 March 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Pullo as head of the Aventine will be interesting since much of the rest of the plot is foreseeable.

― Michael White, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also (thinking on that awesome hoe-down in the Aventine), I can't think of any character's death in the series that has seemed cheap or cheesy. Sparta would've been proud (especially of Servilia & her servant)!

― David R., Monday, 12 March 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

The initial estimates due to budget/set building of how long the show would need to run to get their money back/be profitable/whatever was 5 seasons. After the disappointing first series ratings/critical acclaim, the Italian investors amongst others decided they didn't want to go for anymore than 2.

I think it would have been great to have five seasons, as I'm sure they could have taken their time with certain things (a season ending with Phillipi, more development of Lepidus and his death in the East, more development of Livia, etc...), but I'm happy with what we've got. I figured ten episodes to get from death of Caeser to Death of Antony was going to feel really rushed, but it is working out fine at the moment.

― Gukbe, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://members.aol.com/paulspage/private/sorry.gif
Tony's gonna die!

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I did love the understated (and underdressed) Anthony and Cleopatra meeting. It was very DO YOU SEE, but in a good way.

Now that Mister Monkey has told me all about Livia, I too am sorry there will not be more of her.

Nice to see Titus Pullo back swedging again.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

He always reminds me of John Cale.
Was this every otm'ed? It should have been.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Tonights episode delivered, for me at least. So what are we gonna do when it's all over? (Re)read Tacitus, Suetonius, Gibbon and Graves, as mentioned on the other thread? Rent Trainspotting and Small Faces and have a Kevin McKidd film festival?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

Mark Antony, Mountain Man >>>> Mark Antony, New Wave Egyptian - really missing the beard, but his continued loyalty to Vorenus is great. The sole chink in Antony's suit of hedonist solipsism.

Skanky Jane Wiedlin makes for a good Cleopatra.

― milo z, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

I would have sex with all of this Cleopatra. They sure packed a lot of cool shit into one episode. The look on nu-Octavian's face when Posca revealed the A&C will made me like him as an actor. It was a perfect "I want to do backflips around the room and then blow you but I must maintain some sense of decorum" look.

― marmotwolof, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I have completely changed my mind about nu-Octavian and now think he is the greatest thing in it. Lord Blakeney would merely have looked peevish while getting smacked across the gob during sex. I will miss this show so much when it finishes.

― accentmonkey, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm already missing it. And we're not gonna get the second season of Life On Mars over here until who knows when, assuming it's worth watching.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

yes, that was an awesome episode - lots of everyone and everything i love about this show
i really really wish it did not have to end so soon :(

― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

assuming it's worth watching.

If it's Gene Hunt you're after, you won't be disappointed.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

David R - I have much love for the news reader/town crier. I dig his amazing gesticulations. I've taken to imitating them sometimes when trying to make a point ;-).

Rrrobyn - I have to agree about Pullo. I've only just recently realized how hot he is!

Gah - I'm going to miss this so much!

― ENBB, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Nobody listens to the newsreader."

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

sexy episode!!

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

livia is pretty nasty!

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeah whoa this ep was pretty much half sex/nakedness w/ biting/hitting!

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

If it's Gene Hunt you're after, you won't be disappointed.
That is exactly what I'm looking for. Gene Hunt and Sam Tyler are my favorite brains and brawn team ever after Titus Pullo and Lucius Vorenus, although right now it's a distant second.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

i have also immitated the newsreader. it is fun.

rrrobyn on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:05 PM (26 minutes ago)

i did today

― s1ocki, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

I have not imitated the newsreader until now, but I'm thinking I might start, if you guys are all doing it. It sounds cool.

― accentmonkey, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think you all should form a chorus line of gesticulating newsreaders and then speak-sing "Roundabout" in his voice.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/7c6/a88/7c6a88c0-37b0-4143-ae02-f5f5bf8c3ce4.medium
We've had this date coming for a long a time

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Stop it! It's too sad.

― accentmonkey, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

:( :(

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

And that's all she wrote.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think they bowed out very gracefully

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Twice as sad to see it go after that episode - it had all the details this season has been missing as the show crossed through time and space. Antony & Cleo domestic drama, Antony & Vorenus commiseration, Vorenus & Pullo, Atia regaining first-season form w/ Livia - all brilliant.

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

RIP BESTEST SHOW ON TV

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Define good..."

― milo z, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

"She said I had a rotten soul."
"..."

― marmotwolof, Monday, 26 March 2007 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

Was Antony quoting Joe Pesci in Goodfellas near the end there? Or maybe Joe was quoting Antony all along. It seems that there is an audiobook out there of Antony and Cleopatra with, um, Ciaran Hinds as Antony.

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Attia vs. Livia at the triumph was delicious.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

any way to cure a hangover

― Gukbe, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha! That was a good line.

― Michael White, Monday, 26 March 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like Kevin McKidd is going to be in a time-travel cop show!

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

ah, sigh. that was good, damn good. and lots of great lines, yeah. haha "define good"

i know they went out well, and it is 'just tv,' - no, screw that, it is an example of what tv drama should be more of - but am still very sad that it's over.

― rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

also, was genuinely afraid of octavian and his scary determined calculating face esp in scene with cleopatra and parade scene at the end - and that he realizes his sadism yet believes himself to be fair and just, fighting for the people, etc. makes it that much more scary. oh, it's rich.

― rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

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