Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

ps lol Geordie LaForge

― Stay J0rdan Fresh (sic), Sunday, December 26, 2010 2:27 AM (5 hours ago)

Mary Worth to thread, she would know what to do.

pretty sure Moffat's lazy when it comes to anything that isn't about the different narrative possibilities of time travel. it's his silly, contrary response to Rusty's technobabble ie "big, flashy, lighty thing", as opposed to some nonsense about reversing the polarity of the quantum electrodimensional charge or wtv. Hell he even pokes fun at himself for doing it - we're clearly meant to take the kid's side and think the shark just liked Abigail's singing as opposed to the Doctor going on about her voice having the right frequency.

I dunno, Moffatt-era plotholes would annoy me if they were on any other season/tv show but I'm not really bothered by them for some reason. Maybe it's cause even at his darkest, he seems to write primarily for kids and thus looks at small details with a "the kids aren't going to care, why should we?" attitude. plus sometimes i suspect he puts them in just to annoy aldo(s).

didn't see why this couldn't have had a bit more amy or rory btw - it was a bit boring with the Doctor not having anyone to exchange zings with.

Kid who played young Michael Gambon was a good little actor, I thought.

didn't see why this couldn't have had a bit more amy or rory btw - it was a bit boring with the Doctor not having anyone to exchange zings with.

Yeah! Not sure I agree with your statement, but making Rory really prominent midway through last season was a great move.

Rory listed in the opening credits for the first time I noticed.

Why was Rory in a Centurion suit, again?

Bc he was a part of that trap that the aliens made using Amy's memory and then he became a real boy (also he protected Amy for like a thousand years or something?)

I just forgot there was never a part where they went home and changed into regular clothes, I guess?

he was wearing regular clothing at the wedding iirc which happened afterwards so idk

Why was Rory in a Centurion suit, again?

Honeymoon hi-jinx.

Yes, strongly implied they were wearing what they were for sexing shenanigans and nothing else.

Yeah, was sexytimes fun (was sort-of explained when they came out of the honeymoon suite)

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didn't see why this couldn't have had a bit more amy

this was a major shortcoming

I thought we all decided we hated Amy?? Maybe that doesn't apply when she's in the kissogram outfit.

Kind of hate her character bc of the timey wimey weirdness and flighty annoyingness.... but she's ridiculously cute

I thought we all decided we hated Amy??

we decided nothing of the sort

I really liked this--first properly Christmassy Christmas special, nice lines for Matt, loves me some Gambon, the kid was very good, clever time travel twist on Dickens--ya boo sux to those who didn't like it; that is all

Have noticed the repeats on BBC America have LOADS of really intrusive edits.

Funny that, I've always assumed the rationale behind the episodes being 45 mins was to allow them to fit into an hour slot with ad breaks.

Does BBC America have ad breaks?

BBC America has ad breaks approximately every two minutes (I exaggerate, but they are seriously often). It's terribly disconcerting when BBC programming is chopped up, if you're used to the British lack of adverts.

The cuts are annoying, too - in the Kylie Xmas episode, the bit at the end where they fail at getting her out of the fireball is excised completely. Lazarus Experiment on in about five minutes, so will check for dumb edits.

Did anyone watch the Doctor Who 'Proms' thing with the music and stuff at Royal Albert Hall? It was corny as hell but I enjoyed it.

So that singing lady really does sing like that irl?

yes she does

Pretty amazing pipes for a little gal!

BBC America has ad breaks approximately every two minutes (I exaggerate, but they are seriously often). It's terribly disconcerting when BBC programming is chopped up, if you're used to the British lack of adverts.

The cuts are annoying, too - in the Kylie Xmas episode, the bit at the end where they fail at getting her out of the fireball is excised completely. Lazarus Experiment on in about five minutes, so will check for dumb edits.

― tl;dr swinton (suzy), Tuesday, 28 December 2010 01:55 (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so is this how they combat online piracy or

I really liked this--first properly Christmassy Christmas special, nice lines for Matt, loves me some Gambon, the kid was very good, clever time travel twist on Dickens--ya boo sux to those who didn't like it; that is all

― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Monday, 27 December 2010 10:37 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Not a big Gambon fan but otherwise OTM. What wasn't to like? Felt like one of the best nu-Who episodes so far, Christmas special or otherwise.

I like how the bearded Doctor looked like the Geico Caveman yet still inexplicably hot.

Kind of a lesser "The Girl in the Fireplace," though? I got a very dark vibe underneath the sentimentality.

Ooh yes. Good call there.

guys: i thought this over, and i really, really liked the episode. flying shark was perfect calculated nonsense, and the singing was just loverly.

Singing? Did they sing carols?

some welsh cross-over lady sung jesussy songs to keep the sharks at bay. it worked.

Burning this episode right now. Thanks for the warning.

(by 'burn' I mean 'set fire to and stoke until it is fucking dead' obv)

http://www.wheresthetardis.com/

"SHOW US YOUR TARDIS"

Other singing: people on doomed crashing spaceship trying to humanise themselves to Scrooge/Gambon so he'd want to let them live

like others i enjoyed this, but by the end i was pretty annoyed at how egregious the plot holes were getting. you could make a mental checklist as you went of which episode it was currently contradicting: girl in the fireplace, new earth, father's day...

also i know there was barely any amy, but i still found her super-annoying when she was around. the doctor's already a fast-talking snarker, i just can't deal with two of them.

Space Mosquitos shat up Fathers Day for me so yay to contradicting that rubbish

I'm with aldo on that ep - it was a waste of good actors.

Other singing: people on doomed crashing spaceship trying to humanise themselves to Scrooge/Gambon so he'd want to let them live

no, they were singing to thingammybob the clouds in the hope that it would save them but they couldn't sing as well as Jenkins so they were doomed, but the captain didn't tell them.

I thought this was very affecting!

I really, really liked this. The BBC has been showing all the RTD/Tennant Christmas episodes and specials this week, and they seemed even more clunky and unimaginative by comparison. Tennant seems a lot blander than I remember, too.

Pond is still the weak link, but, um, eye candy so who cares.

Was their currency really called Gideons or did I mishear? Bit of politics from Moffat?

Thought it was Guineas, but might have misheard.

Yeah the bit with the singing on the ship was great.

http://www.hellomagazine.com/celebrities/201101044723/doctor-who/david-tennant/georgia-moffett-engaged/1/

It was Gideons. LOL.

idk why this thread got bumped instead of
Sea Devils And Die: GeroniMoffat's Doctor Who In The 2010s

Time(y wimey) for a new one soon, probably.