Enter The Void by Gaspar Noé

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Ha, the NYTimes distinguishes Noe as an "up and comer" in a recent fashion spread.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 December 2010 18:16 (thirteen years ago) link

saw this recently, cheesy as hell, couldn't wait for it to be over

old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Thursday, 23 December 2010 18:20 (thirteen years ago) link

The thing abt this film is not that it's super long but that it is sooooooooooooo slooooowwwwwwlllly paced. Like it just drags it's fucking feet along in a really drug-induced stupor.

cowboy bibimbap (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 23 December 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link

all the stuff that was supposed to shock just seemed hilariously bad, like a "drugs r bad" psa u see on tv but it goes on for hours

old man yells at cloud computing (am0n), Thursday, 23 December 2010 18:24 (thirteen years ago) link

long running time + slow pace + dimestore Freud = a very poor time at the pictures

Gukbe, Friday, 24 December 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Jim Emerson, Chi Sun-Times:

Gaudiest credits sequence: "Enter the Void" (Gaspar Nöe). Of course, just because it's flashy and unwatchable doesn't make it any good.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 8 January 2011 05:15 (thirteen years ago) link

What does "unwatchable" mean, given that he presumably doesn't mean it literally?

Alba, Saturday, 8 January 2011 06:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i watched the fuck out of that credits sequence.

i probably watched them on youtube a dozen times before i saw the movie.

gr8080, Saturday, 8 January 2011 11:01 (thirteen years ago) link

if i hate irreversible, would i like this?

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Saturday, 8 January 2011 11:23 (thirteen years ago) link

This movie. Wow (in a HaHa! way). All that time spent with these morons and the payoff is A Gigantic Penis Head?!

A happenstance discovery of asynchronous lesbians (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 05:38 (thirteen years ago) link

isn't that what we're all waiting for

Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 January 2011 05:52 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i don't remember hearing Throbbing Gristle or Coil in the film, but they've got their own title cards right there in the credits at 1:05-1:06.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLlLH6xDTD8

circa1916, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

missed that the first time around.

circa1916, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Tarantino was a fan of the credits:

"Yesterday in the process of announcing his favorite movies of 2010, filmmaker Quentin Tarantino had this to say about Enter the Void, which he ranked as the 10th best movie of the year: Hands down best credit scene of the year . Maybe best credit scene of the decade. One of the greatest in cinema history."

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni6630487/

circa1916, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

Seriously, I am totally glad I paid $10 to see this piece of shit in theaters bcz I got to experience the credits sequence.

vienn?tta (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago) link

shame it didn't end after the credits

Gukbe, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:34 (thirteen years ago) link

i was pretty blah on this on first watch, probably a 2.5/5, but i can't help but want to see it again.

circa1916, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 05:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I noticed this just popped up on Watch Instantly today.

Darin, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:33 (thirteen years ago) link

Yep, streaming on Netflix.

An Artily Shot Sesame Street (Eazy), Thursday, 27 January 2011 15:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Should I watch this or Dogtooth first? Dogtooth is shorter...

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Thursday, 27 January 2011 15:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Dogtooth. Then again I don't like Enter the Void.

Gukbe, Thursday, 27 January 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Though if you're like me that won't matter because of that whole "shorter" thing.

Gukbe, Thursday, 27 January 2011 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I caught this on Netflix last night. I was pretty impressed although the last hour dragged badly. My favorite part was the whole sequence of flashbacks to his childhood and the days leading up to his death. That part had the most coherent storytelling plus tons of great cinematography. Also, the whole long scene going from his apartment to the club was very well done. There were so many places that left me wondering how they actually achieved particular shots and effects. I'd love to see some of these techniques deployed in the service of a stronger script.

As it moved on to the endless shots of hovering over the city and then the very long Love Hotel sequence, I started to lose interest, but I could easily sit through the first hour and a half again.

Moodles, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

This is the most exciting film I have seen in my whole life. It didn't feel like two and a half hours because I was stunned and totally absorbed with this idea of a psychedelic out of body death trip. On paper I wouldn't have bought into this concept which is usually quite shite in movies but Noe makes the silent witness to events after his own death section a mix of neon hypnotic psychedelia, realist mundanity and extremity. It is a new approach to film-making to me because I cannot think of any film to compare it to.

The opening credits have set a new standard for creating excitement before the movie has started. In my youth I got into LSD + DMT and had to laugh at how Oscar kept asking the dealer if he had any DMT yet? It used to be very difficult to get that shit where I lived. But this is more than just a "druggy artporn film" (thats what my girlfriend called it before she stomped off to bed after the first hour). I keep thinking about this movie and cant get it out of my head. There are some moments when you wonder if he is just coasting with standard arthouse extremity (graphic sex, graphic car crash, vagi-cam and graphic abortion) but even so he has created a movie that can be expierienced like a great album. Just so exciting.

Enter The Void was my first Noe movie and I have now bought Irriversible which I will probably have to watch alone because my partner will call me a perv.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

man ... DON'T watch Irreversible with your loved ones

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:35 (thirteen years ago) link

it would be like watching Spanking the Monkey with your mom

David Allah Coal (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

All I know is that a 9 minute scene caused a mass walkout at Cannes. A lady who writes for the Guardian was recently describing how uncomfortable it was watching Black Swan with her mother during the scene when Kunis goes down on Portman.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 21:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Love love love this movie.

Is the 9 minute scene the dmt screensaver trip in the beginning? Amazing the cojones to take that from "wow, neat" to "ok this has really been going on for a while now" to LOLZZZZ

Hadrian VIII, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

"wow, neat" to "ok this has really been going on for a while now" to LOLZZZZ

that's kind of the whole movie.

Damo's talking about the 9 minute rape scene in Irreversible i do believe.

circa1916, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:10 (thirteen years ago) link

No Hadrian I was referring to a scene from Irreversible, which I haven't seen yet.

I like the way he makes what should be tedious self-indulgence into visceral eye-candy. Like the scene you mentioned, it is brilliant and switches between overwhelming fucked out of your brain-ness and back to reality in a convincing manner.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Wednesday, 2 February 2011 23:29 (thirteen years ago) link

A friend watched this at home and like it, tho it literally made him puke.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2011 01:37 (thirteen years ago) link

I wondered if the short scene in Black Swan of Natalie Portman heading toward Lincoln Center is a little hat-tip to this movie, it being shot from behind her head and all.

A double shot of Sesame Street (Eazy), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Aronofsky did that shot a lot in The Wrestler.

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:30 (thirteen years ago) link

trope stolen from the Dardenne brothers (Belgian, so don't give them a second thought)

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 February 2011 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

see how he made that subtle dig there

Gukbe, Thursday, 3 February 2011 18:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Loved the first 45 minutes of this, but got diminishing returns as it kept going. Thought the incestual relationship between brother and sister was forced and unbelievable.

Darin, Thursday, 3 February 2011 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't notice any incest. He sniffs her knickers after dropping some ecstasy, 'something' not quite healthy about their relationship but not outright incest. I would agree that Noe doesn't really work on the characters much and some of the dialogue is messy and disjointed. I think the weakest part of the film is the flashback to Oscar's childhood which is in my opinion a little bit soapish and unconvincing.

A lot of it betrays Noe's catholic boy roots. Right, graphic abortion scene - check. Oedipal complex - check. And the tragic car crash explains why he has a drug problem and his sister is in the sex industry, right. Well I assume he is from a catholic upbringing or has at least grew up in a region and era where catholicism might have 'touched him up'.

I still think this is a great movie. It is what happens outside of the dialogue, acting and plot that is the genius of this movie. It is what made it a new type of film experience for me. I might be misguided, but that is my opinion right now. a truly original approach to film making.

Fucking hell I really am a shit film critic. Dont worry Peter Bradshaw your job is safe.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 4 February 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

I didn't notice any incest. He sniffs her knickers after dropping some ecstasy, 'something' not quite healthy about their relationship but not outright incest.

did you forget the part where the movie ends with him inside her vagina

gr8080, Friday, 4 February 2011 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

his spirit also enters a dude who's fucking her iirc.

circa1916, Friday, 4 February 2011 21:29 (thirteen years ago) link

let's not forget the sister licking his ear

Darin, Friday, 4 February 2011 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

list thread?

circa1916, Friday, 4 February 2011 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

He isn't alive at this point, he is a voyueristic eye that is incapable of any kind of interaction with the living world other than watching it. But I suppose a film like this can be interprated in many ways because of its hallucinatory style. Surely you cant fuck your sister when your dead?

The point I was trying to make rather badly was that I didn't think it was a depiction of overt incest. Yes some unsavoury stuff but no sex between them. It is alluded to but is just background stuff really.

For me if this film was character driven it would be a fail. Linda is just a standard tragic hooker character. It still doesn't detract from the film that you dont buy their interaction and are not convinced that they are siblings. For me this is a film about what goes on when you are out of your mind. The plot and dialogue are just the obligatory components of a wafer thin story in this case. That is what excited me about this film, it has been made with little regard for rational movie structure. In my opinion it is a genuine attempt at creating something that is a new way of depicting how life is sometimes experienced.

Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Friday, 4 February 2011 23:05 (thirteen years ago) link

love the shit book of the dead dialogue sequence down the stairs to the club

conrad, Friday, 4 February 2011 23:17 (thirteen years ago) link

yes, we do not see them committing the act of incest, but the film makes it clear that they have a rather sexually charged brother/sister relationship. describing it as "incestual" isn't off the mark. anyway, silly details. xpost.

circa1916, Friday, 4 February 2011 23:33 (thirteen years ago) link

I guess my real gripe was the manipulation Noé takes at every given turn - DEAD PARENTS! INCEST! CAR CRASH! - where the premise alone was really cool and unique. I wanted this transcendent experience, but the exploitative trickery just kind of ruined it for me. That said, it was visually stunning and I won't forget it any time soon.

Darin, Friday, 4 February 2011 23:44 (thirteen years ago) link

really wish Noe would get someone to write him something cool. there's a lot of talent there, it's just weighed down by so much dumb.

circa1916, Friday, 4 February 2011 23:51 (thirteen years ago) link

by the time he was smash cutting from the naked mother in the bathtub to fucking the friend's mom i just wanted it to be over. i mean hoo boy.

Gukbe, Saturday, 5 February 2011 05:09 (thirteen years ago) link

If nothing else I've got to hand it to a film where the camera emerging from the womb is the most predictable ending

Bangelo, Saturday, 5 February 2011 09:59 (thirteen years ago) link

I thought this movie peaked at the Love Hotel sequence toward the end.

Just finished watching a #$%^ torrent of it on my %$*@ Acer but DAMN. Loved it.

Ayo Scott (rip van wanko), Sunday, 6 February 2011 02:24 (thirteen years ago) link

five months pass...

If nothing else I've got to hand it to a film where the camera emerging from the womb is the most predictable ending

― Bangelo, Saturday, February 5, 2011 9:59 AM (5 months ago) Bookmark

lol

finally got around to watching this on netflix. really liked it. didn't drag for me at all.

funny how this and The Tree of Life are essentially bizarro anti-versions of each other.

I wanted this transcendent experience, but the exploitative trickery just kind of ruined it for me.

this movie isn't reaching for transcendence. it's really thumbing its nose at the idea of transcendence. it's about regression, if anything.

Rachel Puppetry (latebloomer), Monday, 11 July 2011 08:26 (twelve years ago) link


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