oh, also Gotham Bar and Grill
― gabbneb, Sunday, 30 November 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
maybe not as much Aureole
― gabbneb, Sunday, 30 November 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link
any thoughts on Little Giant? going tomorrow night.
― carne asada, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
A+++
― Manchego Bay (G00blar), Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I remember great pasta and I remember a duck egg (perhaps together?)
― Manchego Bay (G00blar), Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link
is per se the best restaurant in new york?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link
great pasta and duck egg sounds great to me. thanks!
― carne asada, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link
i think many would say that if they have to choose a best, it might be per se. i can't imagine it's twice as good as Jean Georges, which is almost half the price.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
it gets the top food rating in the latest Zagat, ahead of Le Bernardin, Daniel and Jean Georges, and also the top service rating, plus 2nd place for decor (after over-the-top, Park-viewing Asiate). it's not among the top 10 most popular restaurants.
Michelin gives it 3 stars along with Jean Georges, Le Bernardin and Masa, while Gayot places it and Daniel on top, with the other three a step below
The NYT gives all five of these four stars, while NY magazine gives Per Se four stars along with 9 other restaurants, a step below five-starred Le Bernardin and Masa
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 17:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Is it not among the top ten most popular because of its price?
― Dandy Don Weiner, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i get take out from there sometimes :/
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
only five of the ten most popular, all of which are at least moderately expensive (but none of which are super-expensive), are among the top 10 for food
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link
you get takeout from per se?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Basically everything in Zagat should be ignored.
― I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
i usually get my per se meals deliverd
― :) Mrs Edward Cullen XD (max), Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
or i used to when i lived near it
― I'M ACTUALLY FINE (I DIED), Thursday, December 4, 2008 1:07 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
that has always been my suspicion too.
― carne asada, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Zagat is one among a number of useful data points, though often less useful than others. its utility may vary with its local contributorship. for NY, I find NY Mag the most useful.
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Little Giant was real good, only negative was that they parked us at the bar for a half-hour even though we had a rez
― dmr, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
zagat is good as a manhattan neighborhood directory.
― lauren, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I went to that new taco place in Wburg that they wrote about in the Times. La Superior
pork torta was the bommmmmb
tacos are cheap and pretty good but v. small (if I was making a meal outta just tacos there I'd need four or five)
― dmr, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link
everything there was really small. also had really bad servrice. hecho en dumbo is pretty similar and superior (haha).
― mizzell, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i didn't have a torta though.
i really liked la superior.
― lauren, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link
portions aren't enormous, although we didn't have a problem with the sizes considering that prices were pretty low. we ate a ton for about $40 incl tax/tip.
― lauren, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link
that's true, things were priced pretty reasonably. nothing was very memorable for me, taste-wise.
― mizzell, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't think i'd go out of my way for it, but i'm very happy to have it fairly close by - especially for brunch.
― lauren, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link
torta was almost like pork stew meets a sandwich .... shredded pork on bread but served in a bowl (cause the bread gets all mushy)
taco lengua was pretty good too I thought
― dmr, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:44 (fifteen years ago) link
has anybody been to Char No. 4 yet
they were on my radar for the bourbon but apparently the food's pretty good too
― dmr, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
the fish tacos were our favorite, i think... they were topped with a pickled onion kind of thing that was so tasty. the flautas were also great, which surprised me because i have bad chi-chi's associations with flautas, but the green sauce served with them is fantastic.
― lauren, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost - no. want to try that place.
wife was there and approved but i have no further details (char #4)
― mookieproof, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
what gabbneb said about Zagat. I use it as a locator and also for it's favorites feature.
I wish there was a good restaurant site, especially if it were iPhone friendly, where I could keep track of all the places I want to eat by neighborhood and by city. Are there any?
― Dandy Don Weiner, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link
o, a torta ahogada? excited cause i am going to guadalajara where they are a speciality.
― mizzell, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link
xp - gayot, maybe. it seems to have some biases to adjust for (in favor of clubby/douchey-upscale/French places?), but seems a useful aid for making marginal distinctions between top-rated restaurants
― gabbneb, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Dandy_Don_Weiners_Restaurant_List.txt
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
where should i eat while home? looking for something newish and pretty moderately priced (entrees under $20). and interesting. i've been eating lots of mexican and thai lately, so... not that.
― Realistic Replicas of Incendiaries (get bent), Thursday, 4 December 2008 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link
in favor of clubby/douchey-upscale/French places?
Lolz OTM
― Dandy Don Weiner, Thursday, 4 December 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
update: Mia Dona on e. 58thish was OK. food was kind of ordinary
BUT the papardelle bolognese was out of this world.
anyone heard of this lebanese place Ilili? http://www.ililinyc.com/newsphotos.html
friend says it was a treat. i reealllly wanna go
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:25 (fifteen years ago) link
has anyone been to aurora in williamsburg? i went to the soho outpost and liked it... had some kind of venison in chestnut puree with bacon lardons that was v v good
― beyonc'e (max), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
all i remember are the early reviews, which were pretty mixed. combine that with the (relatively high) prices and the big nightclubby space, and it's not a place i'm particularly interested in. don't mean to sound too negative, but those are my initial thoughts.
― lauren, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:41 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost re: ilili
it does seem slightly tacky but the menu looks good and the prices on a lot of the stuff doesn't seem bad at all.
anyway i'm lebanese i have to go and indulge my slightly tacky proclivities ;)
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:44 (fifteen years ago) link
ha. i just have the fear where those huge, bar-centric places in flatiron/murray hill are concerned. any other lebanese places you'd recommend?
― lauren, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link
you know, there's one in queens that's supposed to be amaaazing. will dig up the name
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link
(recommended by family)
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
As far as more mom-and-pop-style Lebanese, I really like Waterfalls Cafe on Atlantic Ave, and have also heard good things about Zaytouns.
― Indiespace Administratester (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link
waterfalls is good. zaytoons was a favorite when i lived in boerum hill, but it's been years since i've eaten there.
― lauren, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link
i need to try both
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link
theres zaytoons in clinton hill n pros heights too
― Lafayette Lever hi wtf (ice cr?m), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link