― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/board/threads/
Some sample threads:-Terrorists will like this movie
-Libertarian Party (Join the NEXT Revolution)
-Why would a conservative dislike this movie?
-THE VARIETY REVIEW SLAMMED THIS AS AWFUL
-Another Anti-American film
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I believe that was pointed out, like, a month ago. I feel appropriately dumbassy. But thanks for stopping by.
― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
When two Christian/Fascist G-men try to rape Portman and V shows up and *baffles* them into submission with this high speed monologue mainly using words that start with "v" and then sorta bitchslaps em with his hard, highly shiny cane.
― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
That's right--you read it here first folks--recent advances in bleeding edge modern technology have invented devices that allow for steady, fluid camera movements!
― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Thank the good folks at the IMDB boards, home to the most reactionary contrarianism by way of subliterate IGN types you'll find anywhere outside of certain ILM threads.
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link
hugo weaving's voice has always been his trump card
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link
heh
― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Internet Rule 452. b
Any imdb message board ALWAYS has a great chance at bringing the funny business.
― Jingo, Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
definite changes, but nothing severely drastic. i think where they did change things it just clarified or short-cutted certain things.
i enjoyed it. my expectations were low tho. and my movie tastes are probably weak. etc.
certainly political... but...
m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), March 14th, 2006 11:44 AM. (later) (link)
My bet is it's completely gone, creating the "massive plotholes" Moore's been complaining about--Rose Almond and Helen Heyer aren't in the cast.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link
let me see if i can come closer with.... V doesn't turn into a unicorn at the end, but stuff does blow up.
don't let me overhype and ruin this for you.m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
― Dan (YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Drudge has started posted links to reviews:
Torygraph (who take pains to point out that Tony Blair's son helped work on the film)
Roeper's
and i can't wait for the endless lazy "_____ for ____" constructions.
Also, how exactly did they pull off the "Britain is fascist now" explanation in the flick? Did they go with the much safer "WWII was lost" type of thing(as Roeper mentions), or do they actually infer that the people brought it on themselves(as in the book)?
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
This isn’t to discount McTeigue’s participation. He was the second unit director on all the “Matrix” films and on one of the “Star Wars” sequels. Listening to him last night, he’s obviously a smart man. But “V” is just too complex. Let’s just say he had around-the-clock and up-the-wazoo assistance from the strange Wachowskis.
We all know just how strange they are: by now the world is well-versed in brother Larry’s bid to be a transgender, and about his relationship with a dominatrix. It’s “Transamerica” for real, except instead of Felicity Huffman playing the part, it’s the man who helped think up “The Matrix.”
I'm curious about the segment of Fox's audience who're both completely clueless on the TG part yet culturally savvy enough to get the Transamerica mention.
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
From what little I know of the comics (my brother just gave me the graphic novel collection, but I haven't read it), this doesn't sound right at all: "What's remarkable about the Wachowski scenario, as opposed to Moore's original, is the degree to which it stands Fawkes on his head—recuperating this proto–suicide bomber as a figure of revolt."
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
it's basically sounding like several post-iraq wars happened, etc ... it provides details about the US that i don't recall from the book. although it's a little hard to trust some of that cause it's news propaganda. essentially there's a bunch of biotech fiascos that screw everything all to hell. some of that spelled out as government created fiasco. not fall out from greater disasters. seems like in reading the book, i had thought it was total nuclear insanity and britain was about all that was left.
that's funny that they are calling him a terrorist and not a freedom fighter... i mean, at every crossroads it's obvious that this is a futuristic, hardcore totalitarian state. how is he not fighting for their freedom? despite connections you could make to modern day states, it's still way beyond. sure, when they show torture chambers with prisoners in black hoods, you might think of abu ghraib, but... the offensive part is entirely the movie's fault is it? in the context of war/terror/revolution... what's the difference between terrorist and revolutionary but your perspective on the state being rebeled against?
one other thing... brace yourself for a couple of the hallowed jukebox selections... i believe i recall some cat power and some antony and the johnsons. m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
The idea that the script is based on an alternative history 'if the Nazis had won world war II' seems to be a completely bogus internet rumor. Lawson and the other reviewer were having a laugh about the film's concept being that the Tory party had lurched to the authoritarian right in a crisis. The very idea etc. How soon they forget.
I'll make up my own mind on Friday. if it's half as good as the Dr. Phibes movies which inspired it, I'll be well pleased.
― soukesian, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm guessing they didn't go with "What a Wonderful World"-type golden pop tunes as symbols of innocence and/or the world gone by, huh?
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― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
"Beneath This Mask Another Mask"
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Perhaps I don't understand the problem with granting 'absolute moral superiority' to a guy opposing (essentially) the Nazis? I can understand how doing so could make for a boring movie, but I don't really grasp the moral objection.
― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
x-post to kf...
there are some older classics. don't fret too bad. as a music fan tho, i'm a little on the fence still about cp+aatj's classic status in 15 years from now. at least he didn't get jiggy with "my humps" or some mediocre boy band of the moment.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm suddenly reminded of the spawn soundtrack... featuring metal/hip hop hybrids i think... coworkers subjected it to me.
it's nowhere near that bad.m.
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Shame about Portman's accent...she has a great English accent actually, but it's a little posh girl voice instead of a wee urchin.
David Lloyd was there, giving a little talk about how happy he was with the film, and pleading with fanboys of the original to 'just go with it' and recognise that while some things have been changed, the essential spirit is still there.
That newsweek quote up there is really annoying: "the movie plays like a clumsy assault on post-9/11 paranoia". Well perhaps the reason it seems 'clumsy' is that actually, no, it's isn't just about fucking america!
― JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link