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Like Gareth, two equidistant pubs: the Marlborough House in my road and the Folly Bridge Inn around the corner. Although I've lived in my present house for six and a half years I haven't been in the Marlborough House more than five times, all of them to partcipate in quizzes and most of them when my team was playing the Marlborough Mutineers (as they're called) in the local quiz league. People say that they really know how to keep the beer at the Marlborough House (true). People also say that it has been altered structurally very little since it was built in 1883 (this is also true). However, that doesn't stop the place from giving me the creeps. It has such a dedicated clientele that I see the same old faces (almost always occupying the same seats) every time I walk past. It just seems more like a private club than a pub. It's a pity, coz the married couple who run it are really nice people who usually say hello when we pass in the street. I often see them in their boat on the Thames (a couple of hundred metres down the road). The bloke also has a bicycle repair business and if you know anything about Oxford you'll know that this is really appreciated!

The Folly Bridge Inn used to be called the White House. This was a more sensible name as it's quite a way from Folly Bridge. It used to be a lovely pub attracting stoodies and locals alike...it had a quiz on Tuesdays and a music quiz on Sundays. It is a Wadworth pub which used to mean there was FARMER'S GLORY on tap (num num!)....a much better ale than Wadworth 6X and very hard to find these days. Unfortunately, the popular landlord disappeared off to Winchester and since then they've had a serious of poor bar managers who really don't seem interested. Even when I turned up with a huge crowd of co- workers they didn't seem to want to serve us. Luckily I live within easy walking distance of the city centre and fairly easy walking distance of "alt. Oxford", ie Cowley Road, so the low quality of the local boozers is not a particularly big loss to me.

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

David you surely should be going to the Sally (The Salisbury Hotel), which is big, a beautiful building, shows the football, has a strange Rugby-esque version of table football (both teams have fifteen players) and in the olden days they also used to have a busty bar wench called Emma.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sod off Pete. I kept my assets well covered when working in that den of vice & iniquity. Unless they have a new landlord I would not advise it as Eric the Austrian was EVIL and you can never get into the toilets since they are full of people shooting up.

It is a nice space though and it's a shame it's in such a shitty area.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alan - are you in Chiswick?

The Shepherd's - never been, but heard the story of when Coldplay bloke turned up for the quiz...with Gillian Anderson.

My local - Ye White Hart. This proudly boasts it's status as Wine Pub of the Year 1999 and 2000. However, when the Bull's Head, about 200 yards away, won the 2001 title, I began to suspect the geographical remit of this competition might not be as wide as they'd like you to believe.

dan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh yes. i'm told it gets vvv crowded come the boat race (in 2 wks). As I may have said elsewhere, I have "issues" with the boat race, but I think i'm through that, so am determined to enjoy* the crowd. it's SOO quiet round where I live.

[*In the sexual sense]

Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh and I've been to the Shaftesbury and I thought it was quite nice (though dodgy pub singer spoiled the ambience. The people who live locally though live on the farside of the hill and are therefore generally unwilling to sample its joys. Mr & Mrs Carsmile on the other hand...

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Nobody Inn (do you SEE? - dear God) It's yellow outside which is not an outside of pub colour. I've only been in once when I was looking for my housemate when I was locked out and needed keys. There are much nicer pubs in Crouch End and anyway ... I like bars *runs off"*

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

David, you should go in the Old Ale Emporium on Green Lanes. It's ace. They have nice toilet seats in the ladies. And that chap who was murdered last year was murdered right outside. It used to be my local, but only in theory.

Alix, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Regular readers will be astonished to know that Pete has just persuaded me to go to a (gasp) bar for my birthday drinks.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Nobody Inn is a bit crap (though they used to do a music quiz which I reckon we could have won) though it does stay open til 1pm. Most intreiguingly it has a portrait of Big Bird dressed as the Virgin Mary in it.

Have you ever been to ICE Anna?

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

closest bar to me is O'Connor's, which i think i've spilled enough ink on. let's just say I'm lucky.

what IS it though about the closest x to your house that is usually so unattractive?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

closest bar to me is Bar Med which, being in St Ebbe's, is thankfully not that close.

Ever been to the pub in Risinghurst, Tom? Can't remember what it's called. Or any of the ones in Quarry (Six Bells, Masons Arms or Chequers?)

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Nobody Inn is only open till 1pm? It's worse than SOAS bar which closes at 8:30pm!

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't Pete. I don't often go out in Crouch End unless someone's staying at my house. I don't really think I could fill the conversational vacumns that would occur drinking with my housemates and other nearby friends live in places with nice pubs, so I go out by them or in the centre of town.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think Pete is kidding Anna as Ice is this incredibly bad wannabe Brixton-stylee bar which is trying to make the thirtysomething parents & twentysomething newlyweds of Crouch End feel young & groovy again. It fails miserably. However the cocktails aren't bad.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will never trust Pete EVER again. (why have I not learned yet?)

You can tell I don't go out in CE can't you?

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

On the (AWFUL) advert for the Observer's Bar Guide the bloke goes into O's Bar which is also in Crouch End. It looks appalling. If the Observer Bar Guide is recommending places of this calibre then frankly it is not worth bothering with.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Where have I been? Barbarella (although not strictly a bar); The Kings Something and another pub I don't remember the name of.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

isnt there a Nobody Inn at Newington Green too?

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The King's Arms isn't great and has gone downhill since its refurb. Also it is one of the evil CE pubs that cashed my stolen cheques despite the really really terrible forgery of my signature. However there are worse places.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nearest bar to me is the terribly hip 21. Jahrhundert, which has terrible service, a terribly inconsistent kitchen, terribly overpriced drinks, and a terrible amount of chain-smoking schicky mickies not listening/not dancing to some terribly predictable DJs. A nice place for breakfast, though.

Colin Meeder, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

re. The Salisbury (Green Lanes): I've never been in because it seems a bit bare, and full of people wielding pool cues (perhaps that's just the bit that is visible from the street).

re. The Old Ale Emporium (Green Lanes): I've been in there a few times and quite liked it, but it's always jam-packed and I like a seat.

re. The Nobody Inn (Newington Green version): I used to go in there a lot because it stayed open late. Irritatingly Oasis were always on the juke box (it was around 96-97 though).

Does anyone like the Compton Arms in Islington?

David, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wasn't telling her to go to ICE - I was just wondering if she had been there and if she thought it was as rubbish as we did. Barbellas is nice for food though, and pitchers of cocktails during its eight hour long happy hour. We will have to take you out for a proper Crouch End night out it would appear Anna. The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

There is a Nobody Inn in Newington Green which is actually quite nice (though the back half is a bit like a scout hut if that takes your fancy).

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Princess Alexandra has some weird punters though like the hugely obese blind man who was sat near us. However the garden out back is great.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Unicorn, Camden Rd. Don't go there very often but good points = cheap, shows football, weekly pub quiz, friendly staff, spacious. Against = dodgy geezers, grubby decor, neglected toilet facilities. Good honest pub, 'pint for the gentleman' etc

Graham C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Princess Alexandra is very nice in the summer for beer and just by the lido.

What lido? God, I feel like such a newbie.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Duh, the lido by the Princess Alexandra!

It's on Park Road on the way to Ally Pally / Muswell Hill. I have never been as lidos are full of horrible children at the best of times and the proximity to Sprog Central can only exacerbate this problem.

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sprog Central = what? a school?

MarkH, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The closest to me is the Master Plan Lounge. I live in very crime ridden area so I imagine the only planning going on in there is of the nefarious variety. Stay away from the Master Plan!

lawrence kansas, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The dodgiest thing about the enormous blind man was his enormous blind MATE who was there with him. One enormous blind man is a coincidence but two seems like carelessness. Also the way these enormous blind men had a team of hangers-on helping them with their vast plates of food and hanging on their every word made me think they might be some kind of huge fat blind mobsters.

Hooray for the Princess Alexandria.

Tom, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Y'know Tom I thought there were 2 then I thought nah, that's way too improbable, I must've imagined it.

Sprog Central = Crouch End, where North Londoners go to breed

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sprog Central = Crouch End. It is a little known fact that the Crouch End / Highgate environs are the most fecund place in Northern Europe with more pregnant/people with children under five than anywhere else in the UK, Belgium, Scandinavia, Ireland and Holland.

Pshaw Anna. You'll be telling us you've never been on the Crouch End rollercoaster next.

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

kathleen's cafe. it's underground and there are italian lounge singers there twice weekly. i've never been though.

maura, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well i suppose it has to have some kind of public transport

gareth, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I DO NOT TRUST YOU ANY MORE!

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

where once there was innocence and delight, Pete introduces suspicion and fear. You're a bad man Baran.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Okay - so I was lying about the rollercoaster. Give a guy a break...

(I can however be trusted on public houses, it is a subject I never lie about).

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Luckily you can trust me as I am the honest side of the PeteEmma mindmeld. There is no rollercoaster. There are however NUMEROUS buses Gareth which surely count as public transport?

Emma, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hardly ever go to bars. When I used to, though, I'd go to the Union Colony Brewery where all the hippies went. They'd put Rusted Root on the jukebox and dance.

Mandee, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

In Emma I trust then.

I am innocent and delightful (hem) that's why I keep falling for Pete's lies/

Ana, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Removing the false veil of innocence is my burden unfortunately - but I try to do it in a harmless manner with lies about eyes and rollercoasters which hurt much less than the lies told by the government. Who is the evil man here eh? Is it me with my whimsical untruths or is it the government? Eh? Eh? Eh?

Pete, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(hem) indeed

;-)

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My local pub is Gibneys. I only ever go there on Fridays despite the fact that have minor Father Ted stars like Father Damo doing stand up there. I make a point of asking them can they tell some jokes in the middle of their show every week. However they've started charging at the door now so I will have to find a new local. Or just boycott drinking all night in a pub.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm not having my hems thrown back at me by sex tourists.

Kathleen's Cafe sounds quite nice Maura.

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"The Pav". It's often full of students.

Graham, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

future sex tourist at least please, I mean I haven't been there yet.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, but you have 'friends' who know the prices in Britain ...

SEX DOMESTIC!

Anna, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There's a "Pav" in Trinity College in Dublin too. They let you buy 3 cans of shit beer for a fiver. Unlike my shit college bar where everything is full price and made under proper health standards.

Ronan, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Several of you have been to it. The Duke of York, sing its praises.

Ed, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

a bit like an independent All Bar one for my liking. Nice beer though and they let us move the table etc, but where were the nooks and crannies I demand of a pub?

Anna, I may not be talking to you anymore.

chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Closest pub to me is a recently refurbished old man pub with big tellies for the football. I never go in because it's a hun shop (rangers pub).

À la recherche du temps Pardew (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

idk what's going on with the wenlock now, sale appara fell through but they're still looking to sell. last time i was in there before xmas a man wearing a morrissey t-shirt complimented me for looking like morrissey. obv i look nothing like morrissey. great pub.

havent visited the new owl&p either but have been told it's vile tedious gastro. (would assume they took the billiards out as well :/).

was in the florist on sunday for a bit, s'ok but i tend to think of it and the camel as bars tbh. otoh 1) they do london pale ale and 2) they do it in proper jars so fair play.

only been in the palm tree the one time years ago but it seemed fun. iirc the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha.

r|t|c, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:11 (fifteen years ago)

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:14 (fifteen years ago)

this is my hangout.
http://armsbyabbey.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 19:17 (fifteen years ago)

really miss proper pubs & pub sunday lunches now I'm in the US. Have a decent "Tavern" nearby that plays BBC america, has pool tables and a bit of a beer garden; has baseball stuff and photos of baseball stuff all around but it's pretty ok actually. But gooduns are kind of few and far between, particularly when you're used to having about 8 proper pubs within a 10-min walk.

Not the real Village People, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:47 (fifteen years ago)

absolutely would kill for a beer garden around here. never going to happen.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

im so envious of all the real pubs. we've got nothing but college bars and shitty pub rip-offs.

― Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

yeah

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:49 (fifteen years ago)

i'm envious too. i like the names

mizzell, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:53 (fifteen years ago)

i'm sure there are exceptions but anything called a "pub" in the US can be safely avoided

goole, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

uh huh.

around here they call things pubs just because they have guiness on tap.

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:01 (fifteen years ago)

i guess we have dive bars, do those exist in england

ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

i work at a dive bar, buts its a great dive bar. we actually have a bar in town called the dive bar....which used to be a complete shithole when i was 21. now its pretty darn good, owned by same folks as armsby above.

http://thedivebarworcester.com/

Cultivating a manly musk puts your opponents on notice (chrisv2010), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:25 (fifteen years ago)

dive bars exist in England, yes. In London, they often seem to be Spanish-themed, for some reason.

Neil S, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:48 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.marstonstaverns.co.uk/Hull/Queens-Hotel

sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 21:57 (fifteen years ago)

i never have managed to enjoy the reliance, but have prob only been there on sat nights.

the new owl is v hipsterised and yeah a bit wanky, but they seem to have actually replaced the mini refurb the old irish owner did, where he lost the carpet in favour of v bright wooden floors and put bright lighting in. it actually looks a bit more similar to the old owl now. i've heard it's a real gastro pub but nobody was eating when i was in there.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:54 (fifteen years ago)

the guvnor was doing his nut at someone for ordering water haha

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 19:56 (fifteen years ago)

lets go to the palm tree, garda

cherry blossom, Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

he's famous for this, and other weird tics, like he'll sometimes just not let a group in for no reason. he's one of those landlords that will sit and drink with you when you're the only 3 people left in the place till 3am, but barely recognise you the next time you come in. generally a nice bloke tho.

Is this The Sun we're talking about? I have a recent anecdote about a friend having to sit in the cubicle there for a good fifteen minutes while some other friends tried to negotiate some toilet paper for him from the manager, and apparently the manager wasn't making it at all easy to be obtained...

Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:30 (fifteen years ago)

haha no that's the palm.

cb i'm game for the palm anytime...apart from tonight or tomorrow, after that tho literally any day ever

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 27 January 2011 20:32 (fifteen years ago)

palm tree manager sounds like the worst

lextasy refix (lex pretend), Thursday, 27 January 2011 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

longshot i know but is there any pub in london where you can play CHEESES (throwing a big cheese shaped wooden block at some bowling pins) like they do in the midlands.

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:08 (fifteen years ago)

not helpful but i know a bar in detroit, usa where you can do that, but they call it feather bowling

mizzell, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

freemasons arms in hampstead, though they call it "london skittles" of course: http://www.londonskittles.co.uk/

joe, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:12 (fifteen years ago)

yeah soz i was about to say, i could've just googled it.

wow proper alleys! that kinda seems less fun than the drop-down midlands table tbh:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_(sport)#Midlands

r|t|c, Thursday, 27 January 2011 22:16 (fifteen years ago)

palm and palm tree next friday

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

oh no just palm tree not palm

cherry blossom, Friday, 28 January 2011 00:27 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

BREAKING NEWS: the camel on globe road now sells punk ipa on draught. been there about 5 times since i found this out, which is about 5 times more than in the previous three years.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 18 March 2012 10:55 (fourteen years ago)

We just got a new local in a converted post office, it's pretty cool, snugs in old bank safes and stuff. Which is good because the actual closest local is fine for football watching but going in with girls feels like a complete no-no. It's basically all builders from what I can see.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Sunday, 18 March 2012 11:59 (fourteen years ago)

nine months pass...

Calling Chap: is the Dartmouth Arms any good?

A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)


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