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I believe the full sentence 'whatever' is the 3c definition, and here is the OED's history of word use for that definition:

1870 Barber Forness Folk 15, I cuddent leave t' pleass whativver wi'out seein' her.
1900 ‘A. Raine’ Garthowen 93 She's got a tidy pair of ankles, whatever.
1933 ‘R. Connor’ Girl from Glengarry 120, I am doing my utmost whatever.
1960 R. Williams Border Country i. ii. 58 What do it matter it's down?‥ He is Will whatever.
1962 Amer. N. & Q. I. 15/1 Whatever, from the early 1700s to the present day‥it was the musical that struck root as an indigenous form.
1980 New Musical Express 12 Jan. 33/1 Whatever, the myth looks momentous in its sleek new American threads.

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:56 (fifteen years ago)

http://rlv.zcache.com/whatever_dude_mug-p1688753014254541012otmb_400.jpg

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

did i seriously incite an actual debate about the word "whatever" with my throwaway joke? R.I.P. cool laid back thread about funny comedy show

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

im just talking shit personally

the jazz zinger (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 December 2010 15:59 (fifteen years ago)

i guess i just inadvertently activated Mordytron's dictionary app

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:02 (fifteen years ago)

She's got a tidy pair of ankles, whatever.

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:09 (fifteen years ago)

(Re: Alison Brie)

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:10 (fifteen years ago)

@AnniesAnkles available as twitter handle

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 16:12 (fifteen years ago)

seriously dude, I have a friend that only says "whatever" when I say I don't want to hang out or talk on the phone. the word has taken on such disgruntled connotations for me that I will never see it as laid back 90's slang again

but back to gnawing alison brie's ankles

more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:42 (fifteen years ago)

i think we all should raid community twitters until one of us is mentioned on the show

more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:44 (fifteen years ago)

this thread is becoming a fascinating catalog of lorax's telecommunications-related neuroses

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 19:50 (fifteen years ago)

x-post

@AnniesBoobs already taken.

nickn, Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

okay, I figured out how to use twitter and I just harassed Dan Harmon. let's hope he lets me be on the show now

more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:26 (fifteen years ago)

GillianJacobs Chevy gave us all cat urine detectors for the Holidays. No joke.

HA!

Lightning Is For Babies (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

okay, I figured out how to use twitter and I just harassed Dan Harmon. let's hope he lets me be on the show now

― more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:26 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

wonder if this is a joeks

history mayne should probably just stick to the safe, emo-free climes of adult swim

― da croupier, Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:59 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

ehh i like HIMYM, that's pretty emo isn't it?

anyway i have liked some of this series

this thread is becoming a fascinating catalog of lorax's telecommunications-related neuroses

― some dude, Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

sloooow news day

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

not that "emo" is ever really a weighty term to be used in a particular proper way, but i feel like you're just throwing it around to the point of meaninglessness. maybe be more precise about whether you don't like the relationship stuff or the mopey 'profound' moments or something?

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:18 (fifteen years ago)

I didn't really like this episode. I like the actors, I like to see them playing those characters. Whoever said upthread that you wouldn't want to watch a live action Family Guy was right.

trishyb, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:21 (fifteen years ago)

think abed is the problem for me, most of this season, being meta about the meta, and in this case turning into... id even k what, but it seemed emo to me

it was mostly the execution with this particular ep, but mean, i don't care if annie 'grows as a person' either, and i don't mind if they reveal that shirley had a drinking problem as a throwaway gag. it's a g-d sitcom and at its best when, um cartoony, except not literally. as for being meta and then getting hung about it -- include me out.

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

'hung up'

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:28 (fifteen years ago)

"being meta about meta" has been Abed's thing since day 1, not really any more this season than last (although the best use of it was in the messiah movie episode).

some dude, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

he's not hung up about the meta he's a meta-crazed guy who misses his mom

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

This thread is affecting me in a negative way

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

that's bc you're a robot

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)

YESSS

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

Takes one to know one, Mordytron

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

I. Am. Vegetron. How. May. I. Help. You.

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:35 (fifteen years ago)

the messiah episide was the worst episode!

idk abed's thing has become more grating for me, reaching a nadir when shirley said 'meta'; and this ep seemed to be, in the end, for me, trying to 'explain' it, but not in a funny way (that's the only part that matters)

xpost

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

Are you sure you're not a robot, HM?

Square-Panted Sponge Robert (VegemiteGrrrl), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:36 (fifteen years ago)

i am a stabbing robot [via 30 rock]

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

idk abed's thing has become more grating for me, reaching a nadir when shirley said 'meta';

you were pissed off at the show for acknowledging how older people sometimes aren't sure they're using a buzzword correctly (a buzzword that undoubtedly would be tossed around in re: abed by the other characters)?

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:38 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno if 'meta' has that much currency, but ehh it felt like playing to the twitter-gallery.

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:40 (fifteen years ago)

who should they be playing to?

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:41 (fifteen years ago)

"ugh, observational humor about generational differences---how pandering! i expect so much more from NBC"

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:43 (fifteen years ago)

i love this show but some of you are getting a little overdefensive here. history mayne's right that it can way be too sappy, and the sappiness is really uneven from episode to episode - some eps are just joke-a-thons and others are all feeeeeeelings and it would be nice to see them get a good mix of both in all the episodes. but ultimately i just want them to be funny.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:45 (fifteen years ago)

the episodes do vary wildly in tone, but i dunno what sitcoms people are watching where this show doesn't qualify as a daring but reliable, audience-intelligene-respecting jokeathon. So if you ignore this to make incoherent complaints about "emo" you might be asked to pin those down.

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)

it's hardly reliable! you just agreed that it varies wildly in tone!

anyways you can love something but still admit that it has flaws. this is one of my favorite shows on right now but it's hardly perfect.

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

huh, two "hardly"s, something freudian going on there

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)

i said it's reliably funny. even the episodes that contain feeeeelings are also smart with a shit-ton of jokes.

also anybody acting like Abed's shtick is getting tiresome better not still be repping for HIMYM.

da croupier, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:52 (fifteen years ago)

haaaaaaa

Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:55 (fifteen years ago)

i dunno if 'meta' has that much currency, but ehh it felt like playing to the twitter-gallery.

tbh, this entire show plays to that gallery

one pretty obvious guy in the obvious (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:56 (fifteen years ago)

this weeks's HIMYM was funny and last week's community wasn't -- there weren't many jokes so far as i'm concerned. or to put it another way, HIMYM has done things looking at why barney is barney without being wack, community failed that test. of course there've been less-funny HIMYM eps, but not *as* less-funny.

still like community -- liked the ep in the bar the other week

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:58 (fifteen years ago)

People who are tired of Abed's shtick, I'm curious when you got off board? Did you like it in the bottle episode (with the charts and him being sarcastic + upset)? I didn't really love the Jesus Abed episode, but how about last season when he made the movie about his parents using Britta + Jeff, did you like it there?

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)

"still like community -- liked the ep in the bar the other week"

ha this was one of the sappiest episodes of the season!

"People who are tired of Abed's shtick, I'm curious when you got off board?"

don't you mean 'when did you get off the bus'?

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

i don't mind this show trying to pull at the heart strings a little bit, but I'd stop watching if it devolved into a Friends-like who's-fucking-who soap-com. I do prefer the episodes with the jokes, though. It's a really hot and cold show - seems like they are searching for a winning formula.

and who gives a damn about a tweet?

get off my lawn (rockapads), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)

Abed is one of the most consistently funny characters on television IMO, and I've been a fan of that actor since his butt-dialing commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ2ScWMi1dA

Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

ha this was one of the sappiest episodes of the season!

my recollections of it are: annie's ludicrous texas accent, abed getting hit on and not knowing it, jeff and britta lols, and shirley being revealed as a former hellraiser and some unfunny pierce shit. what as troy up to? well, almost kissing annie i guess.

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:02 (fifteen years ago)

Asking why Abed is Abed is sort of like asking why Latka is Latka (Taxi)

The Jesus episode was kind of boring but I like Abed's shtick. Makes for some good jokes. Plus I would hang out with him and Troy in real life

more affecting actually. (CaptainLorax), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:03 (fifteen years ago)

britta the failed hipster is probably my 'fave character' on this show

Asking why Abed is Abed is sort of like asking why Latka is Latka (Taxi)

EXACTLY -- that's why i don't want an ep about abed

ohhhh we plop champagne (history mayne), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

have we done a community character's poll?

Mordy, Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:04 (fifteen years ago)

I think they're all amazing characters, which is something I never thought I'd say after my first viewing of the pilot.

Tina Tina Cheneuse (DJP), Thursday, 16 December 2010 22:05 (fifteen years ago)


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