Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

i mean gravitas isn't just how convincingly angry you can be

Okay he's good at doing convincingly sad and less good at doing convincingly angry, then.

I was going to list some counter-examples but, even though I can visualize them clearly, I'll be fucked if I can remember which episodes they were in.

xp but his suppressed anger at the end of FOB when punishing them was good too and its too bad RTD didn't do that more himself

tbh i think part of the problem is that Tennant had to adopt extreme emotional responses while also doing the chirpy Southern UK accent and that probably affected his ragey moments. Matt Smith playing the Doctor with more or less his normal irl voice probably gives him the edge as his own repressed emotional responses are just naturally more convincing. This is also why Eccleston worked so well in angry mode.

if you like Smith you MUST watch The Lodger adam!

I'll give it another go but tbh I'm not running all the way.

Wait what is The Lodger? (Too lazy to google)

the episode from last season with the Doctor sharing a flat with "popular" comic actor James Corden

it's certainly worth seeing from the background season-spanning arc pov

Oh lol I thought it was like a separate TV series. YES. The Lodge is great. Especially Matt-Smith-plays-pub-football scenes...I heard him say in an interview when he was in college he was actually going to be a footballer until he injured his knee or something. :D

Not :D for injuring his knee. But :D for him playing football.

xp but his suppressed anger at the end of FOB when punishing them was good too and its too bad RTD didn't do that more himself

ugh HATED this bcz he just stands there with a cob on and GROWING SUPER POWERS OUT OF THIN AIR

^That's just Tennant giving his 'good Carrie' impression.

what super powers?

"trapping people in a mirror dimension like the Richard Donner Phantom Zone" powers

"transforming people into scarecrows" powers

"magicing up unbreakable chains and wrapping them around people with his mind" powers

ha, the mirror and scarecrow ones were great, didn't put any of this down to 'super powers' more like some practically magic devices he had lying around the TARDIS...but it doesn't matter how!

didn't like the chains one and the one where he "tricks" the woman into a black hole or something tho

I felt "detached" about Matt Smith at first, but by the end of the season (starting from that daft vampire story) he was knocking 'em out the park.

Also, COME ON, that last episode was probably one of the best ever, I think.

Fez!

I *cried* during the part where he is giving his speech to young Amelia, I am pathetic.

Orrite, fez moment was a genuine flash of genius, I'll give you that.

xpost Nicole, I did too. Blubbering idiot, me

Ugh. Awful. I actually said out loud how bad it was more than once when it was on.

Ah c'mon. Climbing into the film, and "I am. I'm showing you now" - brilliant.

Schmaltzy as hell and purely for the kiddies but I loved it. Best Christmas special by some margin.

H8 Katherine Jenkins though.

Dr was a bit thick to not notice the days counting down. And of course he could have whisked her off to some future planet of medicine, bish bosh all yer ills cured with a pill. But who's nit picking.

Throwing away the cornerstone of NuWho to go back and change the history of an individual?

Singing to fish makes them peaceful? Worst shoehorning of guest star evarr.

How did the close-to-death shark get into the basement from the roof, since the clouds had lifted so much that it couldn't even breathe any more? And how did it manage to live for that long (from Gambon being, what, 10 to his current age)?

When did Gambon's actual brain change, because how you think shouldn't change your brain pattern (if that's how it works)?

Why did Gambon's dad take fatally ill people as downpayment? It's not much of an incentive, is it - this person who's going to die will LIVE if you don't pay me! Also, not exactly moral of the Doctor to just leave all those people frozen, is it? He's certainly changed since New Earth when he risked everything to save a room full of people locked in cells who were fatally infected...

Riding behind a shark is the new jumping it.

I guess that means it's me nitpicking by the way.

Never change.

okay I'll skip this thread again then.

great ep btw

Four adults and four kids watching that one. And we all thought it was terrible. It managed to be boring, which is the cardinal sin of Whodom. Too many plot holes for comfort, too.

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doctor who is rubbish

doctor who is in the gutter

fyi bbc america is marathoning all the specials since davies so i'm drinkin n watchin and i will with pride report on respective quality

this is the first special since Davies hoos

like 'all the specials since davis took over and beyond' i meant

wow ok whatever this is, i guess last year's xmas special with dr song and there's gilliam and there's smith, already its' rad. whole diff feel and pacing

i haven't seen anything since tennant left so this is a helluva way to start off, instantly so diff

ahhhhh what a rad open

Yeah the Moffatt/Smith era has gone for a much more magical/children's fiction feel, which is why this was so good at actually feeling Christmassy (as opposed to companion's family bickering round the turkey). Which is why things like the lifespans of flying sharks or why all the soot suddenly disappeared from the Doctor or whatever don't really matter.

A sort of cross between Christmas Carol and that episode of Star Trek with Joan Collins

Liked bits of that but it was rather slow in places. Needed more fish and less singing.

(at the time I assumed her family prob thought they had been quite clever giving him a fatally ill woman as their loan security, so I didn't see that as a plot hole at all, but I guess having a big counter of days until death on her ice-box was a bit of a giveaway to him so eh. still I am happy with the slightly creepy childhood dream style of magickal bollocks from Moffat where RTD's magic nonsense plot resolutions made me itchy)

i didn't realize this was the 3rd special with smith already, where the fuck have the years gone

not really interested in doctor who but saw a bit of this and that redhead assistant is just ridiculously hot

no joke

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this thread, you guys

Thought this was pretty bad. It mostly seemed to be an advert for Katherine Jenkins CDs. The CGI looked awful. The schmaltz was pretty terribly overboard and the plot holes were glaring, but those things can often be made up for - they just weren't on this occasion.

ha that rapid fire deduction at the start is v holmes

omg Nicole thank you for the Aldo jpg

I liked this special a lot. I will admit the "Back to the Future"-trained part of my brain was freaking out abt young & old versions of the same guy being in the same timeline together. Definitely way less embarrassing than cyber-cavemen or machine gun robo-Santas or space Titanic. Felt more scifi-y than xmasy but that's fine with me. Also the shark singing woman had my same name and there was a lot of cool knitted stuff in this ep so those are two sweet onuses that probably no one else got qa kick out of.

haha onuses was supposed to be
bonuses

lol