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the violence reminded me a little of the opening assault in saving pvt ryan--a little too eager to prove it was real. hyperreal, more like it. actually this sort of goes for the whole film. i think it's funny when mann talks endlessly in interviews about verisimilitude when his movies are such obvious fantasies.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 July 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

also the closing firefight had some really remarkable aspects... the SOUND above all, and the way the DV picked up the muzzle flashes. however was it just me who couldn't tell who was being shot and where? and didn't recognize all except for three of the "good guys"--the rest having spent almost all the film in the characterizationless background.

i feel odd saying this, because i'm ambivalence about cronenberg's movies while i've been a mann booster in the past, but the scenes of violence in "history of violence" (admittedly much less protracted than the ones here) were models of clarity compared to what was going on in "miami vice."

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 31 July 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

i have that same problem with big, highly choreographed multi-character death/fight/chase scenes. often they're supposed to be intense and high-energy, but they come off as extremely muddled, confusing, and visually boring.

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 31 July 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

I got a bit confused about how Dom was taking cover lined up next to all the bad guys.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 31 July 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

yeah very few people can pull those off. thank god for brian depalma

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 31 July 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

john woo is a pimp @ it as well imho.

― BUJU DANSON (Adrian Langston), Monday, 31 July 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

The guy who did the Bourne Supremacy and Mr. & Mrs. Smith is surprisingly good at fight choreography.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

i loved this.

good action. stylish. a little convoluted maybe, but i found it gripping for the most part. some great shots and very intense scenes.

― M@tt He1geson: Real Name, No Gimmicks (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

The guy who did the Bourne Supremacy and Mr. & Mrs. Smith is surprisingly good at fight choreography.

that'd be Doug Liman, who first showed up with Swingers and the Tiger Woods golf-ball-juggling advert.

Nice guy in person, but I haven't seen any of his action flicks yet.

― kingfish cyclopean ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

milo z. OTM. Are the slate movie reviewers usually this dense? Apparently they missed the entire part where the overlord's henchman (Jose?) set up the abduction with the white supremacists because he's an ass. And he shows up at the drop! WTF.

― mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Great movie. Not quite as great as Heat, but a continuation of the same themes. His characters' greatest atributes are competency and will. Even love and friendship seem to be formed around these qualities.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

(pregnant pause)
"Let's go."
(pregnant pause)
"Let's do this."
(pregnant pause)
(pregnant pause)
(edit)

― Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

i noe rite? how many times did they say LET'S DO THIS? it could be a drinking game.

― gothic Buddhist meets Old Hollywood (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

It would have been better if they had kept saying "Make it work."

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

The only part I really liked was when Foxx deadpans, "Let's take it to the limit ... one more time." But the fucked-in-the-head editor totally ruins the comic timing.

― Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, the audience at the theather was laughing at the editing.

― Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

er, theater.

― Alicia Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

This is how we do (things?)... smooth.

They said this at least once more with a different word at the end!

― taco freebie (mike h.), Monday, 31 July 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

'smooth - that's how we do it.'

there was a lot of 'let's do this'. you can't really have too much of that, though.

my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

seconded.

maybe on the dvd it will be possible to decipher what the fuck they're talking about, but i loved it.

the music is REALLY BAD. just totally fucking anonymous. i usually like mann's music.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

overall, this should have been a pilot for a new tv series.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Monday, 7 August 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Not quite as great as Heat

thanks, as suspected i never need to see this.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I've found that it's difficult to work 'go-fast boats' into everyday conversation.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's funny when mann talks endlessly in interviews about verisimilitude when his movies are such obvious fantasies.

Haha, Paul Verhoeven does this too.

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that, apart from the photography, this was a real dissapointment.

I just started watching the DVDs of Crime Story, Mann's follow-up series to Miami Vice. Four or five episodes in, it's not quite as good as MV. The characters, especially Dennis Farina's, are much more archetypally Cop-y), but the action and the art-direction are just as much fun (in the Abel Ferrara-directed pilot, especially).

― C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

mann rankings:

heat
the insider
manhunter
thief
collateral
the last of the mohicans
miami vice
the keep

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Let's take it to the limit ... one more time."

there were a few oddly-pitched moments like this, when one of the characters would make some flaky pop-culture reference in a completely deadpan voice, and no one would respond to it. i enjoyed this for its utter strangeness.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'd rate The Last of the Mohicans much higher, gear -- certainly over the likes of Thief and Collateral.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

That line was much better in the trailer (in a different situation and with better timing) than what ended up in the movie.

Thinking about all the night combat scenes and general weirdness still makes me happy.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 7 August 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Let's take it to the limit ... one more time."

i saw it at the arclight in hollywood the day after it was released, so naturally the theater was awash in screenwriter scum, laughing in full voice at all the popcultrefs and mann-isms.

― Leave Brintey Alone (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

so naturally the theater was awash in screenwriter scum

poetry

and i might rank LotM higher if i'd seen it in the past 12 years!

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

The movie was good, but not great. The main problem for me is that Colin Farrel is a big black hole of suck. Whenever he was on screen all the life drains out of the picture. He seemed to have zero empathy with any of the other actors. I did like the DV camera work. It gave you a real feel for the opressive sultry heat of Miami. Miami Vice was not a bad picture by any means, just as not as good as I had hoped.

― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

jamie foxx's hairline kept distracting me throughout the film, btw

― gear (gear), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't figure out if they did that on purpose or if his head is just weird.

― milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

don't get the farrell hate. i can see why his off-screen life puts people off (just -- i mean it's not like he's the first hollywood actor to be a skanky womanizer) but i thought he was... adequate. and dare i say better 'in-role' than pacino in 'heat' (though that is a better film).

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

someone ought to publish the script, i feel.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 07:16 (nineteen years ago)

I know next to zero about Colin's private life. I just thought he sleepwalked through the role. There is cool and there is cold. I found the performance cold. Maybe he was trying to underplay the part; well he underplayed it to the point where his character's emotional nuances disappeared.

― Ice Cream Electric (Ice Cream Electric), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 11:07 (nineteen years ago)

Surprisingly (for me), I had little to no problem following the dialogue (or plot). I liked Farrell just fine.

my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

I loved the way she shot him, waiting for him to speak and thus be distracted enough for her to pull the trigger. Took me by surprise anyway.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

if i ever have to shoot someone, i hope i do it that well.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

i love the last shot, it's on of my favourites this week.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Remind me what it was!

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

it's simply crockett walking into the hospital. FIN.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

the season 2 is beautifully packaged, but annoying differently packages to series 1. will get when cheap innit.
-- Roughage Crew (miltonpinsk...), July 26th, 2006.

and now EVEN MORE ANNOYINGLY they rerelease series 1 in the new-style packaging THE SWINE.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Except for:
1) the scenes in the air
2) the boat-ride to Havana (which also happens to be the only scene where ass-face [aka Farrell] is any good)
3) that sick Bentley they were riding...

That movie blew so much. I was actually expecting more, expecially cuz I like some of Mann's other stuff.

― trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Good film! True, it just was two hours of MOOD, but
it was hardly going to be anything else. I totally dig MOOD porn.
I liked Farrell as well, his character was a husk, a hard shell of a man which is as it should be. And he looked nails.

― David Orton (scarlet), Friday, 11 August 2006 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've only just seen this and I guess I found it rather nice, but not as good as other Mann films, basically what most people have said upthread. Anyway, I have one question to ask. I have never seen the Miami Vice series, so forgive my ignorance if the answer lies there, but how does a cop manage to own a Ferrari (the one you see at the beginning, when they talk to Alonso)? Is he supposed to be a very rich cop like Will Smith in Bad Boys?

― Jibé (Jibé), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Cars confiscated in drug busts can be used by the cops for undercover vehicles. Crockett and Tubbs just take it to the limit (one more time).

― milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Do they also confiscate suits in drug busts? Ones that actually fit them fine?

Thanks too.

― Jibé (Jibé), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

mann says cops at this level get $100,000 pa. i suppose that isn't too much in today's money.

living on a boat is probably pretty cheap, that said.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 17 August 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Not the movie, but I've been watching season 3 lately and I was deeply saddened at them killing off Larry, Swyteks buddy.

It's pretty great though, the series, even if there's a lot of rerunning of similar plots I still love Manns arty neon shots. And sooo many cameo roles (never realised Steve Buscemi had been in it).

I think the only parts that let it down are the sex scenes, not so many in season 3 but i remember season 2 being littered with them, especially for Tubbs. They go on for too long and play that horrible same sex music.

― Ste, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

i would love to see this remade as a series, in the style of 'the shield', with the complexity of 'the wire'.

― banriquit, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

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