DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

I don't agree with him at all, but David Willetts can't half hold his own in a debate.

in a creepy way, yes

mps back, result imminent

They'll get it thru.

Repayments starting at £21,000 p.a. = not exactly megabucks graduates being taxed on their improved earning potential eh?

better than £15k, though i guess £15k in 2002 (when i started paying) is more like... £17-18k today

majority of 21

wonder how many abstained

Nice to know that new teachers and nurses will be doing their first year for free tho.

Pro tip for school leavers: you can probably be on the management ladder at Tesco by the time you're 22, and it won't cost you 30 grand.

Majority down from 84 to 21

Pro tip for angry students: if you're fishing round for examples of the ways that society benefits from Universities, probably best leave lawyers off the list.

Diane Abbott Hackney North and Stoke Newington MP has just tweeted: “Just voted against tuition fees. Saw Nick Clegg patting a distraught Lyn Featherstone [sic] on the back as they both voted for the huge rise.”

lol

SIMON: Should I resign? I've floated that I might, when I thought I wouldn't, so it'll look convincing if I did. I mean, do you think, is it braver to just resign and say, `No, no war'?
JUDY: Yes.
SIMON: Or is it actually braver to say, `I don't agree, but I'm going to grit my teeth and get on with it?' Is the really brave thing actually doing what you don't believe?
JUDY: No.

maj 21 again

Good work getting proportional representation through any time soon.

Big shout out to the Labour Party for helping make all this possible.

Fuck British politics with a big axe really :/

This is gonna be more or less irreversible I'd imagine because by the time we get a government with even the inkling of a desire to do something about this the slice of the exchequer required to replace the tuition fees will be untenable.

Good work getting proportional representation through any time soon.

yeah, trying to dial down the 'the coalition is doomed' rhetoric after composing this unfortunate thread title, but, really, how the fuck are the lib dems going to survive? they'll have nothing to show in the credit column, and, as with today, massive losses. they won't even get AV. what will they get in return for their VERY SOULS?!??!

5 weeks on I'm a Celebrity and some home-made Cheeky Girls porn iirc

The ratio of exchequer contributions to individual contributions will have shifted further by then as well. This will happen elsewhere in the public sector from now on. I don't personally use prisons, farms or the army, can I opt out from paying for them now?

hope that particular sex tape never sees the light of day xp

would be like watching a horse mauling a child to death

http://today.yougov.co.uk/politics/voting-intention-analysis-14

Today's daily voting intention figures for the Sun show the Conservatives at 41%, Labour at 41% and the Liberal Democrats reduced to just 8%. It is the lowest level of support that YouGov have recorded in the ten years we have been polling, and the lowest level of support they have recorded in any poll from any pollster since 1990.

Only major LibDem to vote No was Ming. And nine Tories.

The coalition won't collapse now. LibDem fear of electoral oblivion will keep it together for as long as it takes before the Tories decide they can go it alone.

Wonder if a few high profile LDs will end up taking safe haven in the Paraguay that is the Conservative Party come the next election.

well i think they may have lost the student vote

topshop is under attack now

fucking fashionistas

Did they really attack Charles and Camilla? Why on earth were they being driven anywhere near the protests?

Same reason lovable city gents like to wave wads of notes at protestors.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/mar/16/uk-greece-style-unrest-nick-clegg-spending-cuts

Britain could face massive political and social unrest on a scale similar to Greece if the next government cannot rally the public behind plans to cut the £178bn deficit, Nick Clegg will warn today.

Man, the government shd do something about that.

:D

Cable getting slaughtered on Newsnight

what a pitiful lying cunt

sorry for the swear but fuck em all, really

Wow, these two historians on Newsnight REALLY hate one another.

cool who are they?

rightly so, starkey is being unbelievable

and fuck willets with a telegraph pole

sarah churchwell (nailing it when she gets a word in), tristram hunt, starkey

lol okay Starkey say no more

starkey said something "controversial" like, oh, uea (churchwell's employer) isn't in the same league as cambridge

does he even teach?

anyway, he also said we hadn't seen riots like this since 1848 AND that "no-one cares"

which, well, you can figure it out

willetts said there hadn't been a cut in state funding -- the state pays upfront, and then the individual pays it back!!!!

honestly i'd be happy if someone killed him

Willetts was spouting a similar line on the radio earlier, the entire policy is Win-Win and contains no "regrettable" aspect whatsoever seems to be his message.

Churchwell basically got shouted down whenever she opened her mouth and was unable to finish a point. She looked incredibly fucked off and was tutting "unbelievable" to herself. Starkey is an arse obv.

Regrettable, maybe not - the word we are looking for is SHAMEFUL.

Churchwell caught in testosterone whirlwind on Newsnight, quelle surprise.

Don't think testosterone is Starkey's usual steez

it was just antediluvian snobbery and pissy interruptions really

yeah that's about right. sad thing is I enjoy some of his legit historical work.

it was just antediluvian snobbery and pissy interruptions really

You need testosterone to do 'manbags at dawn'...

Flip on to QT, people...

Never watch QT, doctor's orders.

QT over, let's see what Andrew fucking Neil has to say...

Best thing on the news this week was some Sky reporter stalking Sarah Teather from outside her front door and down her street as she did her best "Oh go away, I'm just popping to M&S" voice as if she was trying to get out of talking to a chugger and shoved her iPod on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOGbPbprWFc

David Dimbleby is joined in London by Liam Fox MP, Norman Lamb MP, Sadiq Khan MP, Aaron Porter and Janet Daley.

aw hell no

might be funny to see aaron porter getting owned, but no-one will. none of the three political parties can do anything but lie about this issue.