NRO's The Corner: Rolling Bile, Spit, and Gnash Thread

And this is why colonialism has been a benefit to Africa--though not so much as it has, for example, to India. Take a moment to consider how well various countries are doing at becoming wealthy. The correlation to the length of time they had British troops sitting on them is striking.

― Andre Gunder Frank 3000, Wednesday, December 8, 2010 5:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Man, if only the Brits had the Philippines instead huh?

err sorry for the potentially misunderstood quotation there

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dennis "hongro" prager

wow

not nro but

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/08/27/their-guy-vs-our-guy/

haha read the comments-- there actually was a picture of him w/ his kid that actually got removed

LOOK HOW MANLY PUTIN IS WHY CANT OUR PRESIDENT STOP BEING A PUSSY AND ACT LIKE THIS GUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4IjHz2yIo&feature=player_embedded

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Putin should be every mans role model but in this messed up society we have lil wayne and justin gayberlake as our role models.

timbergay wouldve been better imo

Or justin biebergayke. Also no lil gayne? Weird post.

What about Kangay West?

Gay-Z, Brad Gaysley, and Matt Gaymon

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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255789/socialism-v-liberalism-v-communism-jonah-goldberg

communism, socialism, fascism, social democracy and liberalism: all branches of the same thing!

this jonah column is like reading a jekkyl and hyde version of the table is the table

http://townhall.com/columnists/JonahGoldberg/2010/12/29/as_gay_becomes_bourgeois/page/full/

Libertarian pragmatist

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You're up early!

i'm going to sleep in a second here

By the way, according to a recent study, "Modern Family" is the No. 1 sitcom among Republicans (and the third show overall behind Glenn Beck and "The Amazing Race") but not even in the top 15 among Democrats, who prefer darker shows like Showtime's "Dexter," about a serial killer trying to balance work and family between murders.

Lovely sentence!

Mother Nature vs. Nanny
December 29, 2010 10:29 A.M.
By Charlotte Hays

The blizzard is definitely a force for conservatism, and not only because it has had the global-warming crowd scrambling for explanations. The blizzard reveals something basic: Liberals in government want to tell us what to eat, counsel us about how and when to die, and in general attempt to engineer our lives. But when reality knocks, they can’t do the basic stuff such as clearing the streets so that newborns don’t die in bloody apartment-building lobbies. Mayor Bloomberg may be receiving an unfair amount of criticism for his lackluster performance in coping with Mother Nature, given the almost unprecedented nature of the storm, but the unplowed city streets provide a metaphor for the nanny state: It can order us to do anything, but it can’t take care of the basic obligations of government.

"shitty things that happen are a force for conservatism, because conservatism is about more shitty things happening to people"

wtf

i srsly don't understand this level of stupidity

it just seems like conservatism in the form it has survived in in America is about an aesthetic preference for suffering, which, really?

Conservatism requires silent suffering, which heaven will reward.

i hate reading stuff like that because there is just SO MUCH WRONG with it i dont even know where to start, like which category of wrongness do i begin to attack there, the actual facts that shes getting wrong or the bizarre philosophical suppositions or?

somewhere along the line conservatism became in essence a kind of willful assholism that is basically absent of any real beliefs except that you're smarter than everyone else. it's like a political framework derived from bad stand up comedy.

modern conservatism is a performance art. but that example isn't even a very good performance.

i hate reading stuff like that because there is just SO MUCH WRONG with it i dont even know where to start, like which category of wrongness do i begin to attack there, the actual facts that shes getting wrong or the bizarre philosophical suppositions or?

― max, Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:46 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah, that, too, like i was about to get all mad at how dumb blizzards=no global warming is, except that turned out not even to be her main rong point!

The comments are, as usual, edifying.

i think modern conservatism is basically post-politics, if that makes sense. it's not about understanding the world or reacting to suffering, it's about reacting to all these other people who have already tried to do that. it's really rare and weird when you read a right-winger assessing the world or a problem in itself, rather than just making an argument about liberals.

so it goes, liberalism tries to do something about suffering >>> liberalism is evil >>> let's root for suffering

i just feel like when i'm reading modern conservatives (which i don't do that often, tbf), their prose tends to dilate at the moments where they're describing suffering? like, they enjoy the idea of how it feels to suffer? like, that's really where they live? which is so fucking crazy i can't even.

That paragraph is the single most stupid thing I've read this year.

it just seems like conservatism in the form it has survived in in America...

we get it like that over here as well.

well one could see it as an immune response to suffering too. it's sorta psychically distressing to be white and privileged and be shown suffering or to fear the ethical or compassionate response it might elicit.

but even with, say, buckley standing athwart history there's a sense of irony, a performance. it's like once the foundations are gone and we're "modern" then one can only be conservative ironically...but that ironic/performance aspect seems to be lost and replaced with a weird reverse utopianism implicit in that blizzard comment.

i mean, i think it's an immune response to suffering, too, and it's often accompanied by "those people over there should suffer because it will strengthen character", but there seems to be kind of an imaginative yearning for suffering in the absence of real suffering or something? i should probably find an example of this, huh?

Off topic guys, but relevant.

So glad I knew, while reading, how it turned out! Had I not known of the outcome, this would have been a frightening story. The pieces fell into place for us freedom lovers, but the authors give us an immense appreciation of the fact that the odds of defeating Great Britain were overwhelmingly not in our favor.

all i really mean is, this is crazy stuff for the arena of politics. it seems more theological or philosophical or something; it just seems like these people should get out of the politics game.

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i mean, i think it's an immune response to suffering, too, and it's often accompanied by "those people over there should suffer because it will strengthen character", but there seems to be kind of an imaginative yearning for suffering in the absence of real suffering or something?

Related: conservative obsession with media. Hitchens correctly said years ago that it's a weird self-pity: superpower self-pity.

i def agree horsehoe...sorta the "regeneration through violence" kinda thing.

it helps that the natural constituency of these ideas are the people who materially have the least to really worry about

i think that's a fundamental part of it!

A lot of it seems just the result of spite + authoritarianism + ressentiment = a non-thinking. Everything is the result of those Bad People doing something Immoral. All problems are cuz of Libruls, and so we must fashion ourselves to be what we think Libruls would most hate, because doing ANYTHING positive(building something, progressing something, fixing something) is a distant secondary to the infantile tantrumic glee we receive by Pissing Off Those Libruls.

Take these bits and mash them together like Play-doh, and you wind up with an amorphous blob of turgid brown that doesn't please anybody and yet still tastes kinda salty when you nibble at it.

Its like some people have completely and unconsciously absorbed the fact that they're the losers or the Remainders of History, so any action comes from a point of butthurtness so deep they can't even detect its butthurt existence. Run Sarah Palin for high office? Why not! There's no way she'll win over any independent voter but MAN will it piss off those pussy faggit east-coast laJtEtWe-eIliStiHst Libruls!

No longing acting anything close to principle, it down to merely reacting in the pissiest, most infantile and puerile manner available. Who gives a fuck if Congress doesn't do anything, we'll block and cry and scream and stamp our feet rather than pass a bill. Because we've scrapped or distilled everything down to Us vs Them, those hated evilest peoples on Earth, we must expend all energies to the end of time destroying them.

Block the 9/11 Responders bill? Block the START ratification that even the trad-Repub Richard Lugar has to say, "what the fuck is wrong with you people?" Why the fuck not.

One of things it reminds me of in from my existentialism class, reading stuff like Dosteovsky and Nietzsche, where N. went on about the slave class so hating that the master class was good at shit that they poisoned the well, and deliberately inverted morals to result in Fundie Christianity, so that being great at something was prideful and wrong.

Nice overlap with the health care thread. The holidays have been awesome for everyone.

I got in my own spat on Saturday with a bisexual history professor (he wrote the only full-length bio of Liberace), a libertarian who's reconstituted himself into a witty contrarian gadfly. I like the guy, but so much of what he does is performance. For all his intelligence, he could not answer my direct question: "If Obama is such a quasi-socialist, then why did he hire Geithner and Summers?" For him it was more fun to be coddled by my dad and cousin, who peppered him with obsequious questions about 2012.

And I think it's going to get worse. Every single time you get the death-throes of a generation realizing that they're becoming irrelevant, that the World is Moving On, you get this violent thrashing about.

The kicker is that we know have a 24/7 "nihilistic commercial media" as Taibbi describes it, which amplifies everything and anything and can filter thru to how our brains have evolved to where such noise can block everything else out. It works a lot like how we tend to hold an anecdote as far more compelling that any actual statistic. Hyperfocus on this one vivid thing, and everything else falls away.

So now we have this overcharged media complex not only controlled by, but packed with, entitled and privileged aging white folks who are beginning to twig to the fact that Shit Is Changing, and they fuckin' scared of what's coming next.

One of the reasons that I don't pay attention to politics news anymore(or read blogs or even post on the politickin' threads as much) is that there's nothing out there right now BUT responses to this angry hateful dread.

As I've noted elsewhere, my own personal anxiety level has been fucked for over a year-and-a-half thanks to repeated lay-offs and job instability that I can't possibly tolerate bringing in any more emotional bullshit to my current load.

a witty contrarian gadfly.

part of this is what i hate, because that way(similarly to Vice Mag-style hipster coke-repping contrarianism) leads to a nihilism.

also

who peppered him with obsequious questions about 2012.

plz plz plz tell me they were asking about the end of the world.

synonymous with nominating Palin

they all hated Palin actually -- she wasn't "serious."