although obviously if malick wants to make a film made then he can. but for allen it's basically just a case of being in the mood.
― caek, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Curse of the Jade Scorpion:With its production budget of $26 million, it is Allen's most expensive film. The film fared poorly in American theaters with ticket sales of less than seven million dollars. Its worldwide gross was $18.9 million.(4)
Vicki Cristina Barcelona:As of July 2009, the film has grossed $96,408,652 worldwide; in relation to its $15 million budget, it is one of Allen's most profitable films.
Scoop:Scoop opened in 538 American theatres on July 28, 2006. In its first three days, it grossed $3,046,924 for a per-theatre-average of $5,663. Box Office Mojo listed its opening as the biggest limited release premiere of 2006.[9] By the time the film's domestic run had ended on September 28, 2006, it grossed $10,525,717 in the U.S. and $39,212,510 worldwide. The film had a $4 million budget, not including prints and advertising expense.
― would like a calmer set (Eazy), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:23 (thirteen years ago) link
allen's movies do well internationally - more than i even realized, vicki cristina made almost 100 mil worldwide - and are cheap to make
malick doesn't exactly have to scrape and claw to get a movie made, especially since stars are always dying to work with him and will do so on the cheap
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:27 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks--eye-opening. So I guess an Allen disaster is that the film loses a little money, and otherwise his films make a lot. Malick's films are clearly more economically risky than that.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:28 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah i think malick is more about star names wanting to share in the glory
i guess colin farrell was a star in 2005
― Princess TuomTuom (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:33 (thirteen years ago) link
The UK used to be a good market for Allen but they usually don't get a cimema release here now.
― jed_, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:34 (thirteen years ago) link
they do, usually
― Princess TuomTuom (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
Yes they do...only Scoop or Cassandra's Dream (can't remember which) didn't get one. They're basically about a year behind as we only had Whatever Works this summer, while Tall Dark Stranger has already come out in the states.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
The last new Allen I saw was Small Time Crooks, and it scared me away. Things start getting dodgy maybe post Husbands and Wives (although I haven't seen the apparently well-liked Bullets Over Broadway).
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:37 (thirteen years ago) link
scoop didn't. i didn't know that cassandra's dream did but it seems it did. anything else, melinda & melinda and hollywood ending, all from the 2000s, didn't.
― jed_, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
hollywood ending never came out here iirc
VCB was a hit, but some of them barely get a release -- 'whatever works', that one with ewan mcgregor, etc
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:41 (thirteen years ago) link
i was gonna say that malick doesn't work cheap, but apparently his movies arent as expensive as i thought... the new world 'only' cost 30 mil, which seems pretty reasonable for a period movie. tree of life has the most recognizable movie star in the world in it too, which means its practically a lock to make a lot of money worldwide... aside from jesse james (and i have no idea what kind of international release that got, plus it's a western) everything he's been in has done amazingly well internationally, even the quirky arty crap
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:45 (thirteen years ago) link
I could see Tree of Life being a decent-sized hit. All the cinephiles will flock, casual fans will be interested with the (likely) good reviews and star wattage. Couple in the awards run-in as the year goes on...
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
how much did tree of life cost?
― Princess TuomTuom (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link
brad pitt has gotta be the biggest star he's ever had in a lead role so yeah
guessing he's on a 'massive paycut'
― Princess TuomTuom (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:53 (thirteen years ago) link
shd have a thread for 'shitty passion projects' like 'jesse james' and 'a mighty heart'
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 5 December 2010 14:56 (thirteen years ago) link
according to that article upthread, tol has "cost somewhat more than its original $32-million budget"
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/08/19/waiting_for_malick_when_will_we_see_tree_of_life/#
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
surprised it would be budgeted that low to begin with
probably $50m or so which is recoupable
― Princess TuomTuom (nakhchivan), Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:01 (thirteen years ago) link
i guess doug trumbull is not weta, but he doesn't work cheap either
― caek, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I wonder how many reactions like this there will be for the Tree of Life:
I think more people walked out of [The New World] than any other film I have ever seen (and SOONER too--one girl heard the first voiceover, loudly said "Hell no", grabbed her friend and walked out AND then came back in five minutes later to snatch a soda from her boyfriend who had stayed haha!)
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
i love that
― Princess TamTam, Sunday, 5 December 2010 15:11 (thirteen years ago) link
the assassination of jesse jamesbabel
― tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:37 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
it pains me to see these movies grouped together
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
^
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link
I was not nuts over New World or anything, but it was in an entirely different realm from The Preciousness Of Jesse James.
― Miss Garrote (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:56 (thirteen years ago) link
h8 all dis Jesse James h8n tbh
― Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 16:57 (thirteen years ago) link
x-post Before I even read the comments I thought the trailer looked like the unlikely sequel to the end of "2001." Esp. knowing that the movie features dinosaurs is some way.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:06 (thirteen years ago) link
luv dinosaurs, luv the assassination of jesse james
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I think "Jesse James" is pretty perfect, and both Affleck and Pitt really, really good in it. The reason it got hosed in theaters was due to conflicts between director and studio/distributor, right?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Also it is a 2 hr 40 min moody contemplation piece set in the Old West
― Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:15 (thirteen years ago) link
it's super boring
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:18 (thirteen years ago) link
u r
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:19 (thirteen years ago) link
It's also the twee-est movie not directed by Jason Reitman.
― Miss Garrote (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Roger Deakins alone makes it totally not boring imo
― Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
yes, it's very handsome
― rip whiney g weingarten 03/11 never forget (history mayne), Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Like it was pitched as anything else. I seem to recall murmurings of demands for reshoots or radical cutting, and the director refusing. So it barely played theaters in retaliation. I love "The New World" and consider it pretty similar in mood and tone, and even that got a bigger theatrical push.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:22 (thirteen years ago) link
while I always "liked" the new world, i didnt it love it until watching the extended cut on blu ray on a suitably big tv. fwiw.
i also liked Jesse James a lot! but im a sucker for that kind of thing.
― ryan, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:24 (thirteen years ago) link
i liked jesse james, but it should have been 2 hours shorter, and the old timey lenses bits were distracting.
― caek, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
thought that worked well as it tended to (iirc) only happen during narration
― Gukbe, Sunday, 5 December 2010 17:29 (thirteen years ago) link
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Sunday, December 5, 2010 3:10 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
I saw TTRL in the theater 7 times, and saw someone walk out every time. I was in high school at the time, and a friend of mine went with a group of 15 people and was the only one who didn't walk out (this quickly led to me realizing that my school was filled with disgusting savages).
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 5 December 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Ha, reminds me of a summer I convinced several co-workers to go see "Unforgiven" on their night off, and it was totally not what they were expecting from a Clint Eastwood movie.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 December 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link
The Thin Red Line... was filled with disgusting savages.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 5, 2010 3:45 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
― shirley summistake (s1ocki), Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link
with portentous whispers.
― jed_, Sunday, 5 December 2010 22:41 (thirteen years ago) link
what is the PLOT of this movie exactly, is sean penn an astronaut, anyway, it looks good
― max, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:38 (thirteen years ago) link
"One day Joe Spicoli manned up...and shit got real."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:39 (thirteen years ago) link
Well, from that trailer it looked like Sean Penn is the adult version of the kid being bullied by dad Brad Pitt. Beyond that, who knows, but there are dinosaurs. And I can presume lingering shots of light glinting through tree branches.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:47 (thirteen years ago) link
I really like the shot of Sean Penn in an office, looking super bummed.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Turns out the movie is about Sean Penn watching a trailer for _Tree of Life_ while sitting in his office before corporate IT blocks YouTube.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 December 2010 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/12/tree-of-life-terrence-malick-release.html
― caek, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Does anyone know when the trailer is being released online? I have heard that we may have to wait till Christmas, which is too long for my liking. Although, I suppose that may be fitting as it is the day that Christ was born.
Posted by: Michael | 12/08/2010 at 04:02 AM
― She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 9 December 2010 09:31 (thirteen years ago) link
the writing in that LA times article is shocking.
― jed_, Thursday, 9 December 2010 11:42 (thirteen years ago) link