come anticipate the masterpiece that will be terrence malick's TREE OF LIFE.

the assassination of jesse james
babel

brad pitt is #1 SHB

the curious case, obv

nb i don't h8 all these films (tho i h8 that one).....but there is some similarity...recurring tropes may include a sort of pantheistic awe, portent, voiceover, humourlessness, aching string music

dont tuomas me for not knowing what your weird madeup shorthand means

This is actually finished and just about to go into theatres, right? Because Terrence Malick, like Kubrick before him, wasn't exactly made for anticipation threads. (7 months pass...1 year passes...3 months pass...6 months pass...5 years pass...)

i like malick a lot and obv this is going to be far better than any of them

i'm just kinda cynical about it appearing to resemble those vanity projects, they don't seem to make a lot of cash but i dunno how else they market 'tree of life'

shot of trees in trailer straight out of the coda of 'the new world', which might be the best few minutes malick has shot

i like malick a lot and obv this is going to be far better than any of them

jesse james was better than the new world, hth

hollywood bro terry malick.

'jesse james' was really quite good until the final minutes

this looks a good laugh.

i'm just kinda cynical about it appearing to resemble those vanity projects, they don't seem to make a lot of cash but i dunno how else they market 'tree of life'

Can't see how it will make money in the States, and I'm kind of amazed that Malick continues to get funding for his movies.

But come on, this is nothing like Jesse James or Babel. I mean have you read about some of the shit they shot for this? The "beginning of the universe" footage? It's a Malick movie, not an awards season circle jerk.

jesse james was better than the new world, hth

― Princess TamTam, Sunday, December 5, 2010 1:53 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark

well... maybe if you cut out the final 15 minutes. But the final 15 minutes of TNW>>>>>Jesse James.

'appearing to resemble'

trailer just seems too meek....obv there is the chance this will sink at the box office and they want to be cautious, but maybe they'd be better selling it as an event movie, 'enter the void' for the npr set rather than some generic mystical nonsense

I imagine Malick's funding situation is somewhat similar to Woody Allen's--there are enough investors out there who are just happy to be associated with a project of his, even if they know there's no real chance at making money. His films are obviously more involved than the ones Allen churns out, but there may be (just guessing) a comparable situation where you end up breaking even after secondary markets. (Note to self: make that the last time you ever type the words "secondary markets.")

don't allen's films do alright, generally? combination of relatively low budgets and 'long tail', still a lot of residual love for him in france etc

maybe it IS generic mystical nonsense and they're just advertising it honestly

well... maybe if you cut out the final 15 minutes. But the final 15 minutes of TNW>>>>>Jesse James.

― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, December 5, 2010 9:02 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

maybe, but i'd argue TNW doesn't have much going on for it outside of those final 15 mins

don't allen's films do alright, generally?

I honestly don't know. I always figured that once you got past about Hannah and Her Sisters, he did just well enough to keep going.

match point and vicky christina did ok, i think, but he's bankrolled by french investors and it doesn't really matter at this stage. malick has a somewhat tougher time getting stuff made because his productions are on a different scale, and he's made too few films to have a reliable set of rich emo banker dudes to pay for them, afaict.

although obviously if malick wants to make a film made then he can. but for allen it's basically just a case of being in the mood.

Curse of the Jade Scorpion:
With its production budget of $26 million, it is Allen's most expensive film. The film fared poorly in American theaters with ticket sales of less than seven million dollars. Its worldwide gross was $18.9 million.(4)

Vicki Cristina Barcelona:
As of July 2009, the film has grossed $96,408,652 worldwide; in relation to its $15 million budget, it is one of Allen's most profitable films.

Scoop:
Scoop opened in 538 American theatres on July 28, 2006. In its first three days, it grossed $3,046,924 for a per-theatre-average of $5,663. Box Office Mojo listed its opening as the biggest limited release premiere of 2006.[9] By the time the film's domestic run had ended on September 28, 2006, it grossed $10,525,717 in the U.S. and $39,212,510 worldwide. The film had a $4 million budget, not including prints and advertising expense.

allen's movies do well internationally - more than i even realized, vicki cristina made almost 100 mil worldwide - and are cheap to make

malick doesn't exactly have to scrape and claw to get a movie made, especially since stars are always dying to work with him and will do so on the cheap

Thanks--eye-opening. So I guess an Allen disaster is that the film loses a little money, and otherwise his films make a lot. Malick's films are clearly more economically risky than that.

yeah i think malick is more about star names wanting to share in the glory

i guess colin farrell was a star in 2005

The UK used to be a good market for Allen but they usually don't get a cimema release here now.

they do, usually

Yes they do...only Scoop or Cassandra's Dream (can't remember which) didn't get one. They're basically about a year behind as we only had Whatever Works this summer, while Tall Dark Stranger has already come out in the states.

The last new Allen I saw was Small Time Crooks, and it scared me away. Things start getting dodgy maybe post Husbands and Wives (although I haven't seen the apparently well-liked Bullets Over Broadway).

scoop didn't. i didn't know that cassandra's dream did but it seems it did. anything else, melinda & melinda and hollywood ending, all from the 2000s, didn't.

hollywood ending never came out here iirc

VCB was a hit, but some of them barely get a release -- 'whatever works', that one with ewan mcgregor, etc

i was gonna say that malick doesn't work cheap, but apparently his movies arent as expensive as i thought... the new world 'only' cost 30 mil, which seems pretty reasonable for a period movie. tree of life has the most recognizable movie star in the world in it too, which means its practically a lock to make a lot of money worldwide... aside from jesse james (and i have no idea what kind of international release that got, plus it's a western) everything he's been in has done amazingly well internationally, even the quirky arty crap

I could see Tree of Life being a decent-sized hit. All the cinephiles will flock, casual fans will be interested with the (likely) good reviews and star wattage. Couple in the awards run-in as the year goes on...

how much did tree of life cost?

brad pitt has gotta be the biggest star he's ever had in a lead role so yeah

guessing he's on a 'massive paycut'

shd have a thread for 'shitty passion projects' like 'jesse james' and 'a mighty heart'

according to that article upthread, tol has "cost somewhat more than its original $32-million budget"

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/08/19/waiting_for_malick_when_will_we_see_tree_of_life/#

surprised it would be budgeted that low to begin with

probably $50m or so which is recoupable

i guess doug trumbull is not weta, but he doesn't work cheap either

I wonder how many reactions like this there will be for the Tree of Life:

I think more people walked out of [The New World] than any other film I have ever seen (and SOONER too--one girl heard the first voiceover, loudly said "Hell no", grabbed her friend and walked out AND then came back in five minutes later to snatch a soda from her boyfriend who had stayed haha!)

i love that

the assassination of jesse james
babel

― tldr swinton (nakhchivan), Sunday, December 5, 2010 8:37 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

it pains me to see these movies grouped together

^

I was not nuts over New World or anything, but it was in an entirely different realm from The Preciousness Of Jesse James.

h8 all dis Jesse James h8n tbh

x-post Before I even read the comments I thought the trailer looked like the unlikely sequel to the end of "2001." Esp. knowing that the movie features dinosaurs is some way.

luv dinosaurs, luv the assassination of jesse james

I think "Jesse James" is pretty perfect, and both Affleck and Pitt really, really good in it. The reason it got hosed in theaters was due to conflicts between director and studio/distributor, right?

Also it is a 2 hr 40 min moody contemplation piece set in the Old West

it's super boring

u r

It's also the twee-est movie not directed by Jason Reitman.