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hmm totally forgot i posted a q in this thread

yeah its in logan sq/humboldt park, in the area of california blue line :-/

― deej, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

i've had little to no voice recently because of my cold, so it's much easier to hang up on telemarketers with a dismissive grunt because they're not worth wasting my voice on and then having a coughing fit.

what kind of cake? tell us of this cake.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

a single woman lived there before me and they say they havent had problems but ...

― deej, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I've lived in two places within 6 blocks of there, and never felt threatened. Then again, we lived in a second floor and currently a very high first floor place. Do you have a lot of nice things?

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

E/gbx/river wolf lived right near there, as does HS I think?

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I live like 3/4 of a mile from the California blue line, and I think it's a very safe neighborhood (more Logan Sq than Humboldt Park). the garden apt in my building doesn't have bars on the windows and has not had any trouble that I'm aware of.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah I hope you very politely tell that guy that you would prefer if you kept your conversations professional - about everything I've read about that type of harassment suggests that a polite but professional and firm request to knock it off not only works to stop the "flirting" but is usually no big deal to the guy doing it because he often doesn't even realize that he's making you uncomfortable. It's sort of like if you're standing on somebody's foot on the bus and they cheerfully and politely ask you to move. You didn't realize what you were doing and now all is well.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I had to pay like $100 for my federal taxes, but for my state taxes I ended up owing 2 cents. 2 CENTS! So I didn't have to pay. Awesome.

― n/a, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, Julia! It looks like a birthday cake with lots of frosting, so it's hard to tell.

Good advice taken, Jenny. I will not let this happen again!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Great! I will accept cake as an expression of your gratitude.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

When I am a lawyer, I will accept payment in cake.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

but for my state taxes I ended up owing 2 cents. 2 CENTS!

I always round my figures before I even start calculating.

I probably would've owed more if not for the income loss from the partnership I'm in (the band).

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

When I am a lawyer, I will accept payment in cake.

This is not true.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kr had a dream the other night that there was a manufacturer that made bikes that produced cakes as you rode them.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Let's line up by taxes. I had to pay $320 to the feds, but I got $321 back from the state. So, you know, sweet.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kr is a true visionary.

Jeff, it's okay! I'll share my cake with you!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Alone, I probably didn't even make enough last year, in cake or money, to pay taxes but combined with Jeff my measly earnings bumped us into the next tax bracket. So, you know, go me.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

you file jointly?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think so.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't make enough money to pay taxes either. and i didn't make nearly enough cake.

― JuliaA, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know. I did my own taxes once and fucked them up so badly that I had to hire somebody to fix them anyway, so I just give everything to Jeff and he does whatever works best. Which probably means that my statement is wrong and that it would have somehow been more expensive for us to file separately but 1) just because I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't stop me from posting things and 2) where I can get a bicycle that makes cake again?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

i get $680 back this year, and I don't owe the state anything.

― kenan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

That's how taxes should work.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

How taxes really should work is you don't pay any witholding and keep meticulous track of your expenses for every single deduction so when tax time comes you pay the least you possibly owe and don't give the government an interest-free loan for a year (which is what your return is). Obviously this does not work for most people, myself included, but it is the advice of a very smart accountant father of a friend.

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am unsure as to my refund. I think federal'll be about 250 and like 4 or 5 bucks again from IL (thanks dudes).

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like how talking about your tax return is an acceptable form of talking about how much money you make, because the calculations that determine how much you owe or get from the government are all so baffling, it's not like it tells me anything.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

almost every penny of my tax return was consumed. it was all absorbed by my body one way or another.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

What is "withholding"? (I wish I could use the EZ form every year, but for this damn partnership.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Basically it's paying your taxes bit by bit with each paycheck. The problem is that it's not exact so you can easily overpay, hence the refund.

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

(note: I am no accountant, that's just how I understand it)

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

And in many of our cases, there's nothing withheld on pay from music/freelancing/etc., and tax time is when they hit you up.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you guys want to hear some tax horror stories, talk to 1099 contractor ppl like m@tttt.

― dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone wants to email me about how the band/tax thing works, feel free. We keep talking about doing it but haven't made any moves.

― n/a, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing about freelancing was that I had an excuse to hire an accountant and didn't have to hear a bunch of ruckus about how it's really EASY to do your own taxes, GOD, what's WRONG with you blah blah blah.

I'm damn dumb as hell, that's what's wrong with me OKAY?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

fuck dude, my taxes were so insanely complecated in the late '90s i used to have a cpa do them. he was the same guy our company used and we never paid a fucking dime. that guy was blood diamonds.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'll e-mail you what I know about it, Nick.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone wants to email me about how the band/tax thing works, feel free. We keep talking about doing it but haven't made any moves.

I have very little idea of how it works. Both years we've done it, we've had someone prepare the taxes for us (last year it was Ben's brother, this year it was a friend of Matt's who's a CPA). But basically we filed as an official partnership with the state of Illinois. And then someone sat down and calculated various expenses -- we've been very assiduous about keeping receipts from Kinko's, tolls and gas for out-of-town trips, etc., although this is obviously an inexact science -- to figure out what our total income/loss was for the year. I was able to say that I personally lost $366 as a result of my stake in the partnership, although I couldn't tell you where this figure actually came from.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Mine have been easy, though I can't use the "EZ" form because I claim a deduction for my student loan interest.

John, do you include practice space rent? (or is there any in your band anyway?)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, pretty sure practice-space rent is included. (We pay $150/month for our space.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

What is the advantage?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

To what?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, I think the main advantage is not getting audited because you don't report income from the band, and the club (or whoever hired you) does. Not likely but it does happen.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I meant, What is the advantage to reporting your band income (loss)?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I guess that would be alot more important if we made more money.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I doubt anyone would seek us out lookin' for mula.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's definitely a big part of it. We started doing it basically because Ben wanted to do things really clean and official. Of course, the income loss doesn't hurt, either.

xpost Unless I'm really dense, I think I owe the government less money this way? If I was just paying taxes on my day-job income alone, with a salary of $X, then I would owe $Y in taxes (using the table in the instruction booklet). But since my adjusted gross income is $(X-366) (and also minus some other stuff the form tells you to subtract), then the tax I owe is also lower.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I was thinking you'd submit a separate tax form for the partnership.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

My memory is so bad. I just transferred a call to a coworker. Then I got a telemarketing call for toner. Then I listened to the lady talk, answered some questions I didn't need to, and then, finlly, when she asked for my email address to continue our correspondance, I finally said, "I'm sorry, but no. No." Then I hung up. I'm working on it, ok?
Anyway, right after that, coworker rings me. Who was that who just called her? I don't remember. Male or female? Don't remember. It was two seconds ago! I know. I seriously can't remember. Ay ay ay.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I was thinking you'd submit a separate tax form for the partnership.

I'm pretty sure we did. I'm assuming that form had all the expense calculations filled out. The form I got from our accountant had an "employer tax ID number" on it, presumably so that they can cross-check with the other form if need be.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

1099-MISC

― Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

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