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She is allowed to date, but only dumbasses like Dennis.

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

"leave her there, it's better than where i found her."

i'm telling you the throw away lines are the best thing about this show.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Friday, 9 February 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link

boff marry kill

― Edward III (edward iii), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Baldwin on a bender, reducing himself to a can and a paper bag.

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:14 (seventeen years ago) link

he ended up with a little airplane nip bottle! i thought that was inspired.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:16 (seventeen years ago) link

wasn't fuck marry kill played at a chilx booze up? one that i did not attend?

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It was discussed, though not actually played.

― So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Friday, 9 February 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link

tina is wonderful

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 9 February 2007 20:10 (seventeen years ago) link

the editing on that bender sequence was totally brilliant and it was just so friking LONG to boot.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 10 February 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago) link

i forget where someone mentioned the bugs-bunnyness of tina fey. it was so perfectly done in that "ugly betty" bit i was all about upthread.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 10 February 2007 01:05 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2020/tinawinkwc4.gif

― A B C, Saturday, 24 February 2007 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link

the "bodyguard" scene--when was the last time tv was so absurdly awesome

― cutty, Saturday, 24 February 2007 07:46 (seventeen years ago) link

'I DO need someone to harmonize with!'

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 24 February 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago) link

omg the wink

the everything

I LOVE THIS SHOW.

― s1ocki, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I love it so much, I wanna take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant.

― m bison, Saturday, 24 February 2007 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

i want this show to be my boyfriend

― rrrobyn, Saturday, 24 February 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

if this show was my boyfriend, i would take it behind the middle school and get it pregnant.

(see what i did there?)

― tehresa, Saturday, 24 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

these are the hottest women in comedy?
where's jackee?

― mizzell, Saturday, 24 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"ya BURNT!"

"GOOD LORD! THE WORM! That's so DEGRADING! Are its origins GERMAN?"

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 24 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

jackee

― max, Saturday, 24 February 2007 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

finally saw this - its hysterical! why didnt anyone tell me

― deej, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:08 (seventeen years ago) link

the running gags are often so perfectly done...even from episode to episode. i cant get enough of that wig corporation which is apparently all-powerful.

― ryan, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

we've been trying to tell you since it started

― s1ocki, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

The Scheinhardt Wig Corportation!

I downloaded all 15 episodes last night and just finished a marathon viewing only minutes ago. I was worried that it might not stand up when repeated, but it actually gets better!

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

is this better than arrested development? i'm ready to start having that conversation.

― ^@^, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I say yes, but I only ever watched AD's first season (partly).

― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 February 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know if it's better but it's warmer towards its characters

― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 24 February 2007 23:40 (seventeen years ago) link

can't say yet that it's better. leaning toward no... but i'm happy to have the convo.

― s1ocki, Saturday, 24 February 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

i watch every episode about 2-3 times and they all get better. lots of stuff goes right past me the first time.

― ryan, Saturday, 24 February 2007 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

AD was denser and had fewer actual bad jokes, but Jack Donegy is better character than anyone on AD.

― Chris H., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Can't wait for this to come out on DVD.

― jaymc, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:13 (seventeen years ago) link

but Jack Donegy is better character than anyone on AD.
COME ON!

Oh wait, actually, I think I agree with you. It feels really odd to write this, but I think Alec Baldwin is one hell of a comedic actor. Nearly all of my favorite 30R bits are thanks to him. Nothing will beat the 'What am I, a farmer?' comment.

Love this show. I'm really glad newer sitcoms are ditching the laugh tracks, too, as it lets them squeeze in more content. Contrast Christina Applegate walking into the Bundy-home and standing around for a minute waiting for the hooting to end before she delivers her first line.
I don't love it like I love AD, but then it hasn't gone on for nearly as long either.
My favorite American comedy is still Curb Your Enthusiasm, however.

What's the Lemon-winking-to-the-camera picture from? I didn't notice that.

― Øystein, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

she does that after she says the line about how she still loves america, even though she thinks we should all drive hybrid cars and etc.

― kenan, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Married with Children is about the only time that a laugh track has really worked. It was one of the best parts of the show. If someone walked up to my cubicle right now with a "NO MAAM" shirt on, I'd applaud too.

― Chris H., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:24 (seventeen years ago) link

It feels really odd to write this, but I think Alec Baldwin is one hell of a comedic actor.

He always has been! Every time he's been on SNL, he's been the funniest and most talented part of the show. He's never really done any movies that showcased this though.

― Nicole, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

He's never really done any movies that showcased this though.

Alec Balwin was hilarious in Miami Blues.

― Chris H., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link

THE DEPARTED!!!!!

― David R., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:27 (seventeen years ago) link

AD has funny jokes and great acting but its steez is anoying. 30rock is just completely great.

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, the little bit of AD I've seen just takes the long way around to get to the same end 30 Rock goes straight to.

Plus, no character on AD would've ever gone off their meds and seen Rachel Dratch dressed up as a furry little blue man. 30 Rock had that, and it was probably one of the most WTF moments ever on a network sitcom.

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Blue man was kind of forced, like they were really really stretching to come up with a Rachel Dratch part that week. That's the sort of thing that wouldn't have been on AD, to its credit. Rachel ought to stick to what works -- the cat agent and various talk show hosts/therapists.

― Chris H., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

That's the sort of thing that wouldn't have been on AD

MR. F to thread!

― David R., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I so disagree. Blue man was probably one of my three favorite 30 Rock episodic elements so far (Kenneth's poker skills and Brian Williams' dressing room being a couple others).

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

the lame part abt AD is the forced zaniness and narration - it's still really funny but 30 rock is more better

― jh0shea, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The Tracy-off-his-meds episode was one of my favorites, between the "I'M BUGGIN OUT" on the ceiling part and the introduction of Dr Spaceman.

― nickalicious, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Also I want more Grizz and Dot Com!

― nickalicious, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I love both shows, but AD has the edge. There was a poignancy to the characters that 30 Rock doesn't have yet.

― Nicole, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

The other thing that really sags about Arrested Development in this comparison is the shotgun narrative construction -- it's really antic and all over the place, all kinds of cutaways and flashbacks and insert gags taped together with voice-over, so that over the course of 30 minutes it can't exactly put together a story that feels natural and coherent, and instead goes for a kind of Seinfeld / Larry David-style "random scattershot things that start to intersect with one another in bizarre and hilarious ways."

Which is funny, but if you put the DVD in my hand, I can only watch so many episodes of that in a row. Part of what's amazing about 30 Rock is that it gets that same kind of humor into a format that feels a lot more coherent, and spends a lot more time sticking with the characters in an actual situation-type comedy, rather than just hitting a gag or awkward pause and then racing off to the next one. I mean, if you measured scene lengths and stuff, I'm not sure 30 Rock is actually constructed THAT differently from Arrested Development, but it definitely feels like it is, and I'm guessing my one-episode-after-another DVD-viewing tolerance for it would be like three times as long as with AD.

― nabisco, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Mr. F was wonderful. I still sing the jingle to myself when I need a little pick-me-up.

― Chris H., Monday, 26 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the AD characters mean more to me, but that's probably because it was a show about family, whereas 30 Rock is a show about co-workers, whose relationships with each other just isn't quite as important.

― nickalicious, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

"I'M BUGGIN OUT!" indeed. Everything about that episode was perfect (Pete wearing the wig/parting the crowd of NBC tourists, Conan and Liz's chat outside Tracy's dressing room, Dr. Spaceman, the blue dude... all of it).

― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

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