― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
http://www.f4group.co.uk/images/eve_pollard.jpg
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 25 November 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Friday, 25 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 26 November 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)
― Cracks (Crackity), Saturday, 26 November 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/sarahlibertine/ALEXDAMONOMGZZZZZZ.jpg
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 26 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 26 November 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)
― the blurfox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
i found it disturbing AND funny. don't worry N. i laffed much more at this ep.
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
the whole dynamic does appear to be changing, though: whereas it used to be about two very different but equally tragic people, mark now seems to be presented as a *slightly* more sympathetic character ... probably simply because jez is becoming alarmingly psychotic.
either way: glorious, glorious stuff. i should track down episode 2 somewhere, i suppose. or just wait for the DVD :)
― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
It *is* different - this series is the first one where they've used a studio set for their flat, rather than shooting on location. Apparently, the people who actually lived there were getting a bit bored of it all.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
-Cause they're not really there?
-No, they are really there but we don't normally see them cause we're distracted by all the-
-Things that are really there?
...marvellous
― Zora (Zora), Sunday, 27 November 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)
― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 28 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
I sort of know what he means. But I also don't.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
mm, certainly eps 2 and 3 fit this profile (although this last ep was very much 'the jeremy show'). but in ep 1 i almost thought they'd made mark too much of a fuck-up -- the whole sex-angst thing might've gone too far.
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the show is obsessed with poo, it must be said.
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
Perhaps he is right about what I meant. But also, the very fact that everyone on this thread likes the programme so much might also suggest that it is trendy. I don't mean that everyone on the thread is trendy, at least not as an insult.
I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant.
It feels also like a programme keen to be up to the minute somehow, or to express or represent a contemporary attitude or life.
― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
But but but... if you summed this show up as 'rude', 'brutal' and 'nasty', you'd be way off course. Whilst I can't find anything specifically nice about it / the characters, there's something there that's warm and engaging. Perhaps you mean that the rude-brutal-nastiness is a contemporary veneer over a warm-heart-of-British-comedy core? Or have I misunderstood (it happen)?
― Zora (Zora), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― okok, Monday, 28 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
Warm core. Hmm... no I think I see one either. I suppose, one could say that at its heart lies a kind of commiseration of self-loathing squalid souls. But that would be stretching the point a bit.
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)
Is it on, in Britain?
N. is probably right, in his last paragraph.
― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)
― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― okoko, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)
still, "when was the last time sophie sent *you* a template? FUCKFACE!" = teh genius.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)