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Say it in Polish.

Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

KENAN

RELAX

DUDE

Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

I owe the feds $61 and am getting $20 back from the state. Pretty good year, all told. Last year, due to some gross miscalculation on my part I thought I owed the gov't over $1000. A few weeks later I got a check from the U.S. Treasury with most of that money back.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Homies, is anything fun happening this weekend? I'm jonesin' already.

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be on the road.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I got a free ice cream cone.

I don't understand why people wait till tax day to mail their taxes. I had those done and got my return all by February.

Jeff, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, John. :-D (about the taxes) Good though they caught the mistake.

Sarah-like: Doing my taxes the first second I can get my hands on all the necessary figures. Afterwards, checking it a million times and making a copy for myself and filing it.

UnSarah-like: Figuring out a way to get off the phone when I don't want to talk to someone (I even feel bad hanging up on telemarketers.)

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

(I even feel bad hanging up on telemarketers.)

(Not to say I don't do it, but I say I'm sorry a bunch of times first)

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh.. is this the tour weekend, John?

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it's the tour weekend.

Re taxes: I'm a procrastinator by nature, and I haven't gotten a refund in at least five years, so I have no financial incentive to file early.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I realized today as I walked down the street with my nose running copiously and my throat itchy madly that I do not have a cold, but rather an unusually bad bout of seasonal allergies. So of course as soon as I opened the window, they started cutting the grass in the courtyard. Bleh.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

John, I never get refunds either, but I just don't like having things hanging over my head.

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I'm being especially boring today. In not-boring-to-me news, I just saw a cake in the kitchen. We're celebrating selilng the last unit in one of our developments today.

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I think I'm boring because I'm talking about taxes? And telemarketers?

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm talking to myself?

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I never ever ever feel bad about hanging up on telemarketers, or say I'm sorry. They know what they're doing.

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

hmm totally forgot i posted a q in this thread

yeah its in logan sq/humboldt park, in the area of california blue line :-/

deej, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

i've had little to no voice recently because of my cold, so it's much easier to hang up on telemarketers with a dismissive grunt because they're not worth wasting my voice on and then having a coughing fit.

what kind of cake? tell us of this cake.

JuliaA, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

a single woman lived there before me and they say they havent had problems but ...

deej, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I've lived in two places within 6 blocks of there, and never felt threatened. Then again, we lived in a second floor and currently a very high first floor place. Do you have a lot of nice things?

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

E/gbx/river wolf lived right near there, as does HS I think?

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I live like 3/4 of a mile from the California blue line, and I think it's a very safe neighborhood (more Logan Sq than Humboldt Park). the garden apt in my building doesn't have bars on the windows and has not had any trouble that I'm aware of.

horseshoe, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah I hope you very politely tell that guy that you would prefer if you kept your conversations professional - about everything I've read about that type of harassment suggests that a polite but professional and firm request to knock it off not only works to stop the "flirting" but is usually no big deal to the guy doing it because he often doesn't even realize that he's making you uncomfortable. It's sort of like if you're standing on somebody's foot on the bus and they cheerfully and politely ask you to move. You didn't realize what you were doing and now all is well.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

I had to pay like $100 for my federal taxes, but for my state taxes I ended up owing 2 cents. 2 CENTS! So I didn't have to pay. Awesome.

n/a, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, Julia! It looks like a birthday cake with lots of frosting, so it's hard to tell.

Good advice taken, Jenny. I will not let this happen again!

KitCat, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Great! I will accept cake as an expression of your gratitude.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

When I am a lawyer, I will accept payment in cake.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

but for my state taxes I ended up owing 2 cents. 2 CENTS!

I always round my figures before I even start calculating.

I probably would've owed more if not for the income loss from the partnership I'm in (the band).

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

When I am a lawyer, I will accept payment in cake.

This is not true.

Jeff, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kr had a dream the other night that there was a manufacturer that made bikes that produced cakes as you rode them.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Let's line up by taxes. I had to pay $320 to the feds, but I got $321 back from the state. So, you know, sweet.

Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kr is a true visionary.

Jeff, it's okay! I'll share my cake with you!

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Alone, I probably didn't even make enough last year, in cake or money, to pay taxes but combined with Jeff my measly earnings bumped us into the next tax bracket. So, you know, go me.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

you file jointly?

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think so.

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't make enough money to pay taxes either. and i didn't make nearly enough cake.

JuliaA, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know. I did my own taxes once and fucked them up so badly that I had to hire somebody to fix them anyway, so I just give everything to Jeff and he does whatever works best. Which probably means that my statement is wrong and that it would have somehow been more expensive for us to file separately but 1) just because I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't stop me from posting things and 2) where I can get a bicycle that makes cake again?

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

i get $680 back this year, and I don't owe the state anything.

kenan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

That's how taxes should work.

Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

How taxes really should work is you don't pay any witholding and keep meticulous track of your expenses for every single deduction so when tax time comes you pay the least you possibly owe and don't give the government an interest-free loan for a year (which is what your return is). Obviously this does not work for most people, myself included, but it is the advice of a very smart accountant father of a friend.

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am unsure as to my refund. I think federal'll be about 250 and like 4 or 5 bucks again from IL (thanks dudes).

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like how talking about your tax return is an acceptable form of talking about how much money you make, because the calculations that determine how much you owe or get from the government are all so baffling, it's not like it tells me anything.

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

almost every penny of my tax return was consumed. it was all absorbed by my body one way or another.

chicago kevin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

What is "withholding"? (I wish I could use the EZ form every year, but for this damn partnership.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Basically it's paying your taxes bit by bit with each paycheck. The problem is that it's not exact so you can easily overpay, hence the refund.

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

(note: I am no accountant, that's just how I understand it)

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

And in many of our cases, there's nothing withheld on pay from music/freelancing/etc., and tax time is when they hit you up.

Jordan, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you guys want to hear some tax horror stories, talk to 1099 contractor ppl like m@tttt.

dan m, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone wants to email me about how the band/tax thing works, feel free. We keep talking about doing it but haven't made any moves.

n/a, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing about freelancing was that I had an excuse to hire an accountant and didn't have to hear a bunch of ruckus about how it's really EASY to do your own taxes, GOD, what's WRONG with you blah blah blah.

I'm damn dumb as hell, that's what's wrong with me OKAY?

Jenny, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)


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