Terry Gilliam - C/D, S/D

awww

Well,, yeah Brazil is debatable because the ending is so open-ended. But you could argue that Sam ends it completely free of the Orwellian nightmare by escaping into permanent hallucinatory madness. The whole film was about him wanting to live out his dreams and the real world constantly interfering. So maybe - in his mind at least - he's won.

Yeah, I've heard Gilliam make that argument... He never had to sell that to a general audience.

I seem to recall "triumph" being a relative term in the new one as well?

I love Fisher King, top to bottom...including the love story even. I saw Munchausen for the first time earlier this year and really loved it. I haven't seen Imaginarium...I dunno, I'm kind of afraid of it.

dont be, imo. Pleasantly surprised by it

Munchausen, Brazil and Time Bandits are all the business. quality varies thereafter - am seriously trepidatious about the Imaginarium

a mixture of trippy and bodacious? Fitting, imo.

um

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/trepidatious

ur middle name ought to be 'understanding of wordplay'

actually, that is the definition of "mo"

understanding of wordplay money understanding of wordplay problems

dont talk shite

see, you just don't understand wordplay

Parnassus was indeed great, but I liked Tideland too so

(really just made that post in order to throw Tideland into the mix and see what happens)

In future I really am not going to bump the thread of a guy who hasnt made a good film in a quarter-century just bcz he turned 70.

yes you will

But you alerted me to Quixote's funding going arse-up so completely worthwhile bump imo xp

totally dug imaginarium which i just saw last weekend. brazil is dope but too long. is fisher king with robin williams? i guess i have to put tideland on my netflix queue . . .

Fisher King Robin Williams, yep.

btw did that film disappear without trace? I've not seen it available anywhere in at least a decade.

I have Tideland and that's another that I've been a bit twitchy about watching.

It's incredibly fantastic but it's also very very confrontational and self-indulgent and monologue-heavy and just weird. But incredibly fantastic.

hurm....

I want to say more but there's so much to spoil.

spoiler:

horrid

That's def a good start.

reviews were pretty bad iirc

Unanimously, and it's pretty clear why (but to expound would breach spoiler etiquette).

Yeah I already knew a little about the storyline and I think that's what backed me off it. Maybe I'll give it a shot this weekend (so to speak)

Hey nice username, Almanac :)

Ahhhh. Righto.

btw if you make it halfway and it's not grabbing you you can stop.

;) xp

ty Almanac. Maybe I'll take a sedative or something before I start out, lol

Fisher King was pretty rad. But yeah most of it is Robin Williams doing his Robin Williams thing, acting like the genie from Aladdin or something, but it's not entirely bad cos it's balanced out by scuzzy Jeff Bridges and his hot-ass gf. Jeff spends alot of the movie looking like a bum, so you can almost imagine this is a prequel to The Big Lebowski or something.

Gonna check out Tideland soon, it's the only TG film I havent seen...

someone describing 'brazil' at work: "it's in the 80's, robert deniro, it's supposed to be set in brazil...."

this is the same person who referred to anne hathaway as "some english actress" when talking about One Day.

is tideland any good

Tideland's abysmal. So much worse than anything else he has done.

"...I think it's the movie version of Who's The Boss? except with only the grandma, and her face is made out of rubber."

"also her dog's asshole is taped shut for some reason"

"the ending is nice and then they ruin it"

August 8

Dear Sid:

Once upon a time you told me that you were not the one that put me in the chair at the end of "Brazil." I'm afraid that this is no longer true — unable as I am to think of anyone else who is directly responsible for my current condition. Your later offer to be the friend who becomes a torturer has more than come true. I am not sure you are aware of just how much pain you are inflicting, but I don't believe "responsibility to the company" in any way absolves you from crimes against even this small branch of humanity. As long as my name is on the film, what is done to it is done to me — there is no way of separating these two entities. I feel every cut, especially the ones that sever the balls. And I plead, whether they are done in the name of legitimate and responsible experiments or personal curiosity, if you really wish to make your version of "Brazil" then put your name on it. Then you can do what you like. "Sid Sheinberg's Brazil" has a nice ring to it. But, until that time, I shall continue to decline. Please let me know how much longer must I endure before the bleeding stops.

Deterioratingly yours,

Terry

c.c.: Jack Lint

http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/06/i-feel-every-cut.html

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7149/6395023359_c357e5f1f5_o.jpg
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/11/when-are-you-going-to-release-my-film.html

Gilliam's daughter Holly is digging into her father's archives and blogging about what she finds: http://hollydgilliam.blogspot.co.uk/

Nice!

John Justen wrote this on thread Terry Gilliam - C/D, S/D on board I Love Everything on 06-Jun-2007

OK SO TIDELAND IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER EVER EVER PRETTY MUCH.

This is coming from someone who has great respect for Gilliam in general, but seriously, dude, the next time you want to put yourself through some sort of aggressive theraputic "finding yourself as a child" bullshit, leave it for the Terry Gilliam home video collection.

This movie is irredeemable. I watched it last night, and I'm still angry about it.

yep

Did anybody manage to see the leaked Zero Theorem trailer before it was taken down?

Yeah, the film has a very Brazil vibe to it, albeit with lots of CG and heavy-handed humour. I liked Dr Parnassus, though, so none of it put me off.

parnassus was pretty good!

I still haven't seen Tideland, waiting for it to show up on cable or streaming or something. I know at least one person who thought it was excellent, weirdly

Parnassus was much better than I thought it would be, although it felt overly long and convoluted. obviously a bit of a cursed production, unfortunately.