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I have to admit that I rarely find silent movie streams on youtube.com or downloads from archive.org very unsatisfying from a variety of perspectives: dubious sources, compressed files, teeny-weeny images.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:18 (twenty years ago)

On the other hand...it is kinda useful to be able to point to an ready-to-go online source for The Mystery Of The Leaping Fish as it's a good talking-point for certain kinds of silent-movie doubters (even if it's hardly any good -- it's like a middling Channel 101 flick circa 1916).

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Quality wise, Lot in Sodom is the pick of the bunch there. (27 minutes at 350 meg, looks fine in full-screen.) The others are hit and miss, but are still of interest if they are difficult to find elsewhere.

hellsarse (hellsarse), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:46 (twenty years ago)

daddino did you get the charley chase dvds?

amateurist0, Monday, 13 March 2006 06:14 (twenty years ago)

The Insects' Christmas (Wladyslaw Starewicz, 1913). Clever stop-motion. 6 mins

hellsarse (hellsarse), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

Nah, but they're on my NetFlix queue.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 13 March 2006 12:40 (twenty years ago)

i like the silent movie.

jeffrey (johnson), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:20 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
You asked for it, New York; MoMA presents

Rediscovering Roscoe: The Careers of "Fatty" Arbuckle

http://moma.org/exhibitions/film_media/2006/Fatty_Arbuckle.html


(A friend co-curated this, so consider it slapstick spam.)


http://www.sfgate.com/traveler/postcards/arbuckle.jpg

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

cool stuff!

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:52 (twenty years ago)

can someone subsidize a move to new york for me please

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Restoring Fatty Arbuckle's Tarnished Reputation at MoMa
By DAVE KEHR


When Roscoe (Fatty) Arbuckle checked into the St. Francis Hotel in San Francisco for a Labor Day weekend of rest and recreation in September 1921, he was one of the most celebrated and beloved comedians in America. One week later, he was a pariah. On Sept. 11, Arbuckle was arrested for the rape and murder of Virginia Rappé, a 28-year-old actress who passed out during a party in Arbuckle's suite and died a few days later of peritonitis.

It mattered little that Arbuckle was subsequently cleared of all charges. That did not stop Will Hays, the first president of the organization that later became the Motion Picture Association of America, from issuing a ban on Arbuckle's films.

Although the ban was eventually lifted, the black mark against Arbuckle's name remained. Unable to work under his own name, he spent the balance of the 1920's directing shorts (and a pair of important features) for other comedians. Not until the early 30's did he appear on screen again, in a series of short films for Warner Brothers. The shorts were successful, and Arbuckle was celebrating the signing of a new contract when he died of heart failure in New York City on June 29, 1933. He was 46 years old.

Someday it may be possible to write an article about Roscoe Arbuckle without mentioning the scandal that destroyed his career. If that day comes, it will be because of the work of Arbuckle buffs like William Hunt and Paul E. Gierucki, who put together the indispensable four-DVD collection "The Forgotten Films of Roscoe (Fatty) Arbuckle" (www.mackinacmedia.com), and to Ron Magliozzi, Steve Massa and Ben Model, who programmed the monthlong series "Rediscovering Roscoe: The Careers of (Fatty) Arbuckle," which begins Thursday at the Museum of Modern Art.

Before sound, when movie actors had to state their personalities through a unique physical presence, Arbuckle looked like a sketch out of the Sunday funnies: the large, almost perfectly round head, bisected by a wide mouth that could leer or grin or lustily devour, perched atop an almost equally round body, the spherical qualities of the ensemble accentuated by a bowler hat. He was a large man, but not markedly obese. For all his bulk he was fast and graceful of movement, and many of the jokes in the early Keystone films — he started at Mack Sennett's pioneering comedy studio in 1913, after a career in vaudeville — depend on Arbuckle's surprising agility, as he ducks and dives and dashes to avoid the grasp of a pursuing policeman or the wrath of a jealous wife.

As seen on film, Arbuckle's build is that of both an overgrown infant and an adult sensualist, and he often shifts between the two connotations of his appearance for rich comic effect. He may approach a woman as an awkward, ungainly child, only to shoot a sudden look at the audience that bespeaks a happy, uninhibited lechery — an ambiguity that probably contributed to his image problems when his trial came up. He is also, like Chaplin and several other comedians of his age, an enthusiastic cross-dresser; with his corpulence poured into one of the tentlike bathing suits of the period, he could pass for a curvaceous Victorian woman of the sort only then going out of style. So convincing was Arbuckle as a woman that he made several shorts — "Miss Fatty's Seaside Lovers" is one, playing on Friday's program — in which he plays a female character, with no drag alibi involved.

A leering country bumpkin with barnyard manners and a libido to match in the early films, Arbuckle's character grew in complexity once he escaped the direct influence of Sennett, moving his unit in 1915 from California to Fort Lee, N.J., where he could make his own films with little interference. Films like "That Little Band of Gold" (1915) and "He Did and He Didn't" (1916) find Arbuckle moving away from Sennett's frenetic slapstick into a sophisticated comedy of sexual temptation and spousal envy. In the remarkable "He Did and He Didn't" (also playing on Friday), Arbuckle is a respected professional, a doctor who looks quite handsome in his tuxedo as he tries to cope with a flirtation between his wife (Mabel Normand, his frequent screen partner) and one of her old flames. The surreal climax, worthy of Philip K. Dick, reveals that the two rivals turn out to be sharing the same dream.

Arbuckle's richest period came after he left Sennett for the producer Joseph Schenck, who set him up with his own company, Comique. "The Butcher Boy," the first film under the new contract, introduced a new supporting player, Buster Keaton — an old acquaintance of Arbuckle's from the vaudeville circuit. The Keaton of the Comique shorts (there are two full programs of them at MoMA, on Saturday at 6 and 8 p.m.) is not the Great Stone Face of his later work, but a little demon of destruction who sets elaborate traps for Arbuckle and roars with laughter when he falls into them.

As brilliantly kinetic as the Comique shorts are, Arbuckle's character is essentially one-dimensional: the mischief maker who undermines everyone and everything, winking at the audience as he mounts ever greater outrages to human dignity. But when Paramount, the distributor of the Comique shorts, decided to move him into features, Arbuckle needed to add some depth to his screen character. He did so by looking to his old friend Chaplin and drawing pathos into his work.

In "The Round-Up", his first feature (next Sunday at 2 p.m.), Arbuckle is a sheriff in a small Western town whose magical fast draw goes unappreciated by the pretty young woman he has a crush on. "Nobody loves a fat man," reads the film's final intertitle, as Arbuckle lays his head down on a fence post, the picture of neglect and despair.

After the scandal, Arbuckle adopted his father's name, William Goodrich, as his pseudonym for a series of short films for which he served as director and gag man. Working with comics like Al St. John (Arbuckle's nephew, and a colleague since the Keystone days), Lloyd Hamilton and Lupino Lane, he created some highly enjoyable work in the middle to late 20's, all the more impressive for what he must have been going through emotionally at the time. His loyal friend Keaton hired him to direct "Sherlock, Jr." (1925), though apparently the strain of feature work was too much for him and he dropped out of the project. But he ended the 20's with two features: "The Red Mill" (1927), an adaptation of the Victor Herbert operetta starring Marion Davies, and "Special Delivery" (also 1927), a lively vehicle for a young Eddie Cantor, which will receive a rare screening on April 27.

One of the best of the late Warner Brothers shorts, "Buzzin' Around" (1933), which will be shown in the introductory program on Thursday at 6 p.m., reveals an Arbuckle who seems almost his old self, with a soft but sympathetic speaking voice that suggested he would have little trouble making the transition to sound. Arbuckle's fans have taken solace in the fact that he died the night his Warner contract was renewed. However he had spent the last 12 years of his life, he had finally regained the respect of the industry that had expelled him, and the affection of the audience that had turned on him so violently. In the end, some people did love that fat man; after the MoMA series, a few more may love him as well.


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:04 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
last night of the Fatty retro :(

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:26 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/features/silent-cinema-season.shtml

goddamnit, i paid money to see 'a cottage on dartmoor' just a couple months ago.

Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 07:15 (twenty years ago)

I just ordered a big pile of DVDs from Amazon, including...
A bunch (all?) of silent pre-Judy-Garland-version Oz movie adaptations!
Both silent versions of Student of Prague (1913 & 1927)
Faust

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:05 (twenty years ago)

the Oz w/ Oliver Hardy as the Tin Man is VERY strange.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I saw something at the video store that looked interesting that has apparently just come out on DVD- something from Mauritz Stiller called Sir Arnes Treasure.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:47 (twenty years ago)

One of the interesting things about the 190x films is the transition
from vaudeville to movies. Most of those really early films are just
theater productions, with a single camera planted front & center.

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:02 (twenty years ago)

That Mauritz Stiller DVD isn't supposed to be on the shelf yet! I know, 'cause I have a different one -- Erotikon -- that I'm writing on today and it streets next Tuesday. (Erotikon, by the way, is pretty creaky but still randy enough to seem datedly modern.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I just saw that. Maybe I just saw a poster for it.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:18 (twenty years ago)

The Wind = teh awesome, even the recent score by Carl Davis, he of Paul McCartney's Liverpool Oratorio fame, I think.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:31 (twenty years ago)

I hoped you taped it off TCM (4a.m.?). I think I've told the story of Lillian Gish introducing it at Radio City Music Hall 20 years ago...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

You got it. Re: LG at RC anecdote. Please refresh our memories.

Sons Of The Redd Desert (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:04 (twenty years ago)

She made a very short intro to the effect that the movie was called The Wind-DUHHHH, which is odd because you can't see the wind-DUHHHH!

and there were little old ladies with flowers waiting for her at the stage door.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 19:11 (twenty years ago)

Sunrise ws teh girlfriend's favourite movie. I am unsure if i prefer that or the last laugh.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

but i like both marginally more than nosferatu.

jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 21:58 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
anyone seen Victor Sjostrom's Phantom Carriage? playing at Lincoln Center tomorrow.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dr. Caligari in Houston with Live Accompaniment 2-nite and Sunday

http://www.mfah.org/main.asp?target=films&par1=1&par2=1&par3=685

Orgy of Pragmatism (Charles McCain), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
Got "Broken Blossoms" and a trio of Fantômas films from lovefilm this week. Watched BB, "Fantômas" and "Juve contre Fantômas" last night. I remember seeing BB on CH4 in the eighties, finding the racial stereotyping grotesque, but nevertheless being drawn into the victorian penny-dreadful melodrama story. This time round the racist cariacaturing totally, totally grossed me out, and the story just struck me as being cruel to the point of sadism. The melodramatic cruelty in "Way down East" has the awesome payoff when Gish's character points the finger at Lennox - unbelievably great performance from Gish as she works herself up into a fury, wild eyes staring at the camera, I grabbed a couple of images when we had that one, she actually looks frightening. This time round, Gish's great performance is where she's locked in the cupboard, and her worthless no good turd of a father is breaking down the door, it's too horrible, too much. When she plays the death of the character, it's so realistic, it's disturbing. I didn't enjoy it at all. Gish's acting is great, and the sets are beautiful, but I hated everything else about it. Surely even at the time, some of this stuff must have been a bit much?

I remember seeing the clip from Fantômas, where Juve is looking into the corner of his room, and a spectral Fantômas appears, wearing a domino mask on TV years ago, and thinking, wow, that looks great, I've got to see that. The first film was somewhat primitive but nevertheless visually striking in lotsa places & v enjoyable. The second one much better storytellingwise. I was amazed at how hardass & amoral the story was, & just how much of a badass mother fucker Fantômas was! I especially liked the scene where Fantômas rips off the princess' money & jewels at the beginning, & he hands her his card, which is blank on both sides. After he leaves, she looks at the card and the word "Fantômas" appears on it & she freaks out. Also the model train in the second one, the street scenes in Paris, the special effect where Fantômas blows up the house at the end of the second film. Great, warped stuff, I thought.

Pashmina, Saturday, 17 March 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

cant bring myself to watch a silent movie silent, I want the whole package; big screen, musicians and an MC.

My absolute favourite is Victor Sjöströms The Phantom Chariot (Körkarlen, 1921), with the fantastic new score by Matti Bye. Also Pabst´s Die Freudlose Gasse (1927, with Greta Garbo) is very enjoyable in a depressing way.

In the category silent, but not silent M wins.

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

WTF about M has anything to do with silent movies?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

M has more to do with silent movies than talkies, for sure.. sound is used a bit different due to limitations in sound recording; more as a score perhaps. And silent films never where silent anyways, so its just about in which way sound is incorporated, as I see it..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Incorporated by having long dialogue-heavy scenes and a key plot element that revolves around Lorre whistling "Hall of the Mountain King" you mean?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well.. sound is used as a novelty, and its not really dialouge-driven is it? As a whole I think M relies on the silent stylistics in narration. It would work well without sound. Only thing is the whistling, and that could be in the score.. It would work I tell you. Its not a view I would write an essay on, but it holds in the forums..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Okay I see what you're driving at, but I disagree. I think Lang's masterful in his use of sound in the movie. Schränker in particular is a character who would've been portrayed very differently in a silent.

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 17 March 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, youre view is the common one, and i dont really disagree..

jonperson, Saturday, 17 March 2007 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
david brooks - carolyn and me[!] - camera as antagonist - trees and sky and snow and light as psychological cues

youn, Friday, 6 April 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

On the way home last night, I picked up the 4DVD set of "Ben Hur" - the 1959 version takes up 2 DVDs(!), there is a "making of" DVD, the last DVD contains a restored version of the entire 1925 silent version. I watched a bit of it last night - there are a few scenes shot in 2-strip tyechnicolor, which are kind of kitschy-looking, but nevertheless, absolutley beautiful. The nativity scene near the beginning, w/Betty Bronson as Mary is just amazing to look at! This is the first 2-strip technicolor I've seen moving, now I've got to see some more - that early American cinema box set w/"Toll of the Sea" on it, apparently "Gold Diggers of Broadway" has it's surviving 2 reels tacked on as an extra on some 30's musical DVD?

Other things I noticed on the brief bit I watched last night were that there seemed to be a bit of bare breast flashage here and there (pre code, I suppose?) and that there seemed to be a lot of intertitles. I'll watch the whole film tonight or tomorrow night, I'm really looking forward to it.

Fuck if I'm going to watch the '59 version - I've seen it before, Charlton Heston is terrible, and it goes on forever and ever and ever. If I want to watch a 50's/60's Romanesque spectacle, "Spartacus" totally pwns "Ben Hur". The 4DVD set cost a tenner in HMV, so it's not exactly a rip off, is it.

Pashmina, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I also picked up "Pandora's Box" at the same time - I saw it in the late eighties/early nineties and thought it was OMG AWESOME at the time - I'm a little more jaundiced about it now, and was expecting not to be that keen on it - the whole "brooks cult" thing is a bit offputting, TBH, though I admit I do find her to be an incredibly fascinating character, & also undoubtedly the hottest actress ever, so it's understandable - I put it on, meaning to watch a couple of scenes from it, but I was surprised to be gripped by the story pretty quickly, I watched it all. Thoughts were/are:

1/Brooks' acting is weird - sometimes she's really hammy & quite frankly not that great, a lot of the time though, she seems like a real person who is surrounded by people who are acting, & she's responding unknowingly to the script they're reading from. Her performance in the bit where Dr Schön tries to get her to kill herself & she winds up shooting him is great & unfuckable with.

2/The ending is hateful to me, as I thought it would be. When I saw it before I was like all "wow, profound", this time round I was like "oh, FFS, give the poor girl a break" - for all Lulu's character is infuriating, it seems to me to be utterly undeserved & obnoxiously moralistic. I think a far better ending would have been to show Lulu several years down the line, in the exact same situation she's in at the beginning of the film, except she is now the mistress of a different sucker, and instead of Schigolch turning up, Alwa turns up, in the same dilapidated/seedy state.

Still, I think it's a pretty great film.


My friend who works in HMV (where I got the Ben Hur set) tells me that "Diary of a Lost Girl" is coming out on DVD in the UK soon, though he didn't know if it includes "Windy Riley goes to Hollywood", like the US version. He also reports that there is a DVD box of Lon Chaney films forthcoming, which will include a DVD of "The Unknown" Wow, man.

As the CC has now skipped over a month, I can afford to pick up a few DVDs - here is what I fancy:

1/Pola Negri in "The Woman he Scorned" - her last silent film (I think it's one of those "silent with music/fx soundtrack" things like "Sunrise"

”The Woman he Scorned” aka “The Way of Lost Souls”
DVD here

2/Pola Negri again, in "A Woman of the World", which sounds pretty fucking wild:

”A Woman of the World”(1925)

I imagine these are going to be transfers off 16mm reduction prints - I'll take what I can get, I guess. I've never seen a complete Pola film, only clips. She is kind of the archetypal silent movie star to me. The ones I'd really like to see are "three sinners", b/c she looks so cool w/her hair dyed blonde:

http://www.polanegri.com/lc_three_sinners_bw_4.jpg”>

...and

"The Garden of Eden", starring Corinne Griffith:

garden of eden

The clips, I thought, were very funny, although the visual humour can't help but come across as being slightly Benny Hill-ish. I especially liked Lowell Sherman playing the EXACT SAME CHARACTER that he plays in "Way Down East", except he plays it for laughs here.

Finally, Colleen Moore in "Ella Cinders"
http://www.reelclassicdvd.com/silent_era.htm

Frustratingly, the only Colleen Moore DVDs I seem to be able to get are either this (which I've seen before, albeit a long, long time ago, maybe even in the '70's!) Or her talkie version of "The Scarlet Letter", which I've also seen, and which is quite awful. Colleen Moore is interesting to me b/c she was a huge, huge star back in the late '20's, and she's completely forgotten now. A fair few of her popular films seem to have survived - Lilac Time, Irene, Orchids & Ermine (which I REALLY want to see) Her Wild Oat, Twinkletoes - all sporadically or non-available on DVD. Gah. I can't help obsessing over one of her lost films - "We Moderns", in which her character attends a wild jazz party held on a Zeppelin (!) - a plane crashes into the zeppelin, setting it on fire, and she barely escapes. To me, that sounds like the best film ever?

Anyway, enough rambling, I'll see if I can get some screen grabs of the color bits from "Ben Hur" over the w/e.

Pashmina, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

POV books about silent films (from whatever approach -- history, theory, biography, technique, stills, whatever).

Casuistry, Saturday, 14 April 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Is that point-of-view, or do you want us to pick only 5?

The Parade's Gone By by Kevin Brownlow

Dr Morbius, Saturday, 14 April 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Classics of the Silent Screen" "by" Joe Franklin (I think it was mostly written by Franklin's assistant in reality) is the one that kept my interest in the genre going over the years. It presents 50 American silent films listed chronologically, and the 75 "greatest" stars of American silent cinema. The films should all be viewable reasonably easily w/the exception of "A Kiss for Cinderella" (which exists, but in a pretty poor copy, apparently.) The sections on the stars is clever and sneaky in that many of them do not appear in films listed in the other section of the book, and many of the stills are from other films as well, some of which can be obtained, some of which are lost, sadly. So, it tends to get you even more interested in other silent films.

Pashmina, Sunday, 15 April 2007 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

PO5, then, if you will.

By the Joe Franklin?

Casuistry, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Murnau's Phantom from 1922, recently restored by the people at Flicker Alley, looks really interesting. Also, if you can find it, John Ford's Four Son's, which is indebted to Murnau (actually uses the same set as Sunrise, although it is much more like The Last Laugh) is highly worthwhile.

http://www.flickeralley.com/images/home_34.jpg

mentalist, Monday, 16 April 2007 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

All of Flicker Alley's stuff looks really great to me, the Feuillade serial especially.

Someone has put up on YouTube, a clip from Norma Talmadge's notoriously bad, career-ending early talkie "dubarry: woman of passion"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjdOJVi4Lw

It is AWFUL - so much worse than I ever imagined, far worse than Colleen Moore's version of "The Scarlet Letter", even. I suspect that anybody would have struggled with such leaden dialogue. Poor Norma, it makes me feel really sad :( I note that the archetypal problem of very early talkies - the microphones apparently weren't much cop, so everyone has to stand still, resulting in static tableaux - is very apparent here.

Also on Youtube is this '70's britishes tv interview w/little-old-lady gloria swanson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MjdOJVi4Lw

She's great! What an amazing star, I could probably listen to her talking about the old days like that for hours. In the clip of the old movie at the end, she's really annoying, but somehow also quite charming. Olivier: "who told you you could sing!" haha. It mentions in the Joe Franklin book that as soon as talkies came in, miss Swanson would always contrive to have at least one singing scene in every film she appeared in. I'd actually really like to see the film excerpted, it looks cute.

Pashmina, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I interviewed the Joe Franklin in his famously discombobulated office when I was 17. Didn't seem the authorly type, but he knows/knew a lot about silent film.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jill was a bit off colour last night & went to bed early, so I sat up and watched the 1925 "Ben Hur" spectacle all the way through. I was a bit alarmed at the 2hr22min running time, but in reality it only dragged in a few places. Downsides were that it beats you over the head a bit much w/the religiosity, even taking into account the fact that it's a bibical epic, that it's pretty much totally lacking in any humour, and that Francis X Bushman overdoes it quite a bit as Messala. If someone who had never seen a silent movie asked for a recommendation this sure as fuck wouldn't be it. W/o understanding the vocab of silent film acting, sitting through this, let alone enjoying it would be a real struggle. On the upside, May McAvoy is great as Esther, w/her sub-Mary Pickford curls and her expressive face, the backdrops and background models are fantastic - like Escher, Piranesi and Dore brought to life, the chariot race is really exciting (the sea battle is a bit of a mess though), the colour sequences are expertly deployed and hit like a bomb when yer watching it. Well worth a tenner, haha.

Pashmina, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

I grabbed a bunch of pics, using VLC player:

Betty Bronson appears briefly as Mary. All she really does is sit there, pulling the mona-lisa face. She is unbelievably beautiful:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/03bronsonmary2.png

Early technicolor nativity scene:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/09nativity2.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/10nativity3.png

The mean old Romans mistreat the Jews, Pre-Hayes Code style:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/06meanoleromans2.png
The actress looks kind of wryly amused by this, going by the look on her face.

1st appearance of ramon navarro as ben hur. Easy on the eyeliner there. He's about 1,000,000 x better and 1,000,000,00 times hotter than Charlton Heston:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/07navarrobenhur1.png

Part of the Roman fleet - who needs CGI when you can actually build what you're supposed to be representing in yer film?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/13triremes2.png

The most WTF moment of the film - the guy beating out time for the galley slaves aboard the trireme. It looks like something from one of Derek Jarman's period pieces! (poss NSFW if yer employers are uptight nazi assholes, like)
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/14galleyjarmanesque.png

Best exchange of the film - the ppl in the crows nests spot their opponents:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/15pirates.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/16pirates.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/17romans.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/18romans.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/19golthar.png




Ben Hur returns to Rome, a free man, his athletic prowess & strength gained during three years of pulling oars as a galley slave makes him a hero to the populace:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/22navarrobenhur2.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/24rome3.png
He looks a lot like Peter Cook in "Bedazzled", I think.

Great calligraphy on some of the intertitles, I'd love to get a font that looks like this
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/27typography.png

Ben Hur's mother and sister in the Roman dungeon. Very Gustave Dore-esque:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/28dungeon1.png

The roman arena at Antioch. Seamless use of hanging models. Awesome spectacle. Fuck CGI, heh:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/50arena4.png


May McEvoy as Esther, the "romantic interest". NB hairstyle ripped straight off Mary Pickford. She's really good
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/38estheranddad4.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/34esther2.png

The background models are great, they look like MC Escher or Piranesi etchings brought to life:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/30antioch1.png
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/31antioch2.png

Look at this backdrop! It looks like they just blew up a Gustave Doré etching:
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b379/Vietgrove/Ben%20Hur%201925/52lepervalley.png

Pashmina, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Pash, your YouTube links are the same, do you have the Swanson link?

Those stills are gorgeous.

Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. The Gloria clip is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcgZzL3vZyU

Pashmina, Sunday, 22 April 2007 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

& thanks! It's actually a lot of fun grabbing the screenshots. I was really pleased with the first one of May McEvoy looking into the camera.

Pashmina, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:01 (nineteen years ago)


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