It's a sad and beautiful world: the Jim Jarmusch poll.

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yes!

omar little, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Mystery Train

but I could have just as easily voted for any of these:

Night on Earth
Dead Man
Stranger Than Paradise
Down by Law
Ghost Dog

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

GHOST...DOG?

...HE'S Gay

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen all but the first (though it's now in my dvd library) and the last two, and like Mystery Train the least

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know the answer yet

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

just put mystery train and dead man on my queue

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

and yet the world continues to turn...

n/a, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to act like that wasn't an xpost

n/a, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

no, the world pretty much waits for me, actually

gabbneb, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

stranger than paradise

nothing beats the five minute shot of dude drinking his beer

lucas pine, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ "all but the first two and the last two"

+ mystery train ftw

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ "all but the first two and the last two"

learn to read better

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

coffee and cigarettes is terrible. i like ghost dog and dead man. i havent seen anything else

deej, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

In order, but the first four are pretty close:
Dead Man (1995)
Ghost Dog (1999)
Mystery Train (1989)
Stranger Than Paradise (1984)
Broken Flowers (2005)
Down by Law (1986)
Night on Earth (1991) (this mostly weak, but the paris, new york and helsinki bits all have moments--the la bit is the worst thing he's ever done)
Coffee and Cigarettes (2003) (also mostly garbage, but I seem to remember a few good bits.)

Haven't seen, don't care about:
Permanent Vacation (1980)
Year of the Horse (1997)

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

I lean toward Ghost Dog over Dead Man because I think it's more stylish and because the-inner-city-is-dying is more relevant than indians-died-a-long-time-ago, and because I think he gets the tri-state area a little better than the West. Greater reach than STP, sure, but not sure they're really better. Night on Earth was my first and yes the LA part sucks and I hate Roberto Benigni but while I haven't seen it in ages I think fake Spike Lee and fake Kaurismaki and faux whoever might still feel more soulful than any of his others.

I think I'm going to make a policy of not seeing Bill Murray movies from now on. No offense, you know.

I never intended to see Year of the Horse, but it's not a bad movie, even if you don't care about Neil.

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:05 (eighteen years ago)

i like it!

chaki, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

more relevant than indians-died-a-long-time-ago

ok, sure it has lots of more current more-than-overtones, but they just aren't all that interesting

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

wait, I've never really watched Down By Law straight ("straight") through, have I?

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

lol, college

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

Down By Law has not aged well.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

maybe it's just a lot easier to feel sad for Forest Whittaker than it is for Johnny Depp

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

Well I don't think you are really supposed to feel sad for Johnny Depp.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

The indie/artsy/outsider voice wanted to vote for Down By Law or Stranger Than Paradise. But the viewer in me won out and voted Mystery Train. Mainly because of it's repeatability. Screamin Jay Hawkins & Cinque Lee? Absolutely classic. &fwiw, Permanent Vacation was bad. Bad, bad.

Bobbi Peru, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

Well I don't think you are really supposed to feel sad for Johnny Depp.

no I suppose not, but for what he represents I meant

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

that Gary Farmer is so good-natured and has such funny sayings and no wonky eye

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

learn to read better

*takes a reading course*

what you said is still retarded

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

i guess calling me names is a way to get me to pay attention to you. which, you know, i would never do otherwise.

gabbneb, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)

*takes a caring course*

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna see the golden compass tonight

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

i know nothing about it!

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

something about bears, nicole kidman looking bitchy, and daniel craig ftw in the end probably

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

nicole kidman in looking bitchy shock

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

she cant even help it anymore

omar little, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

ALL OTM

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

Mystery Train - for Screamin' Jay, the Carl Perkins dialogue, Natchez = Matches, that fucking awesome pan shot of the Italian women in the airport with the airplane taking off behind her, and of course, "lost in space".

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/9940/18830783gl1.jpg

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 13 December 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

Steve Buscemi is the only actor in that truck cab who's still alive.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 13 December 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

Or, as gabbnebb might say: they are all alive except the one on the right and the one on the left.

roxymuzak, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:27 (eighteen years ago)

alex's ranking is otm on all counts.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:40 (eighteen years ago)

although ok maybe i'd bump stranger than paradise up to 2nd place. i love that movie unconditionally.

love him for his movies, and also for carving out the career he's had. i'm not really sure how he's done it, since i don't think he's ever made much money for himself or anyone else. although maybe not caring a whole lot about that is a necessary ingredient. (also probably doesn't hurt to be the coolest guy in the room, which he probably often is.)

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

1) dead man
2) stranger than fiction
2) down by law
2) mystery train
5) the rest
6) except for the ones i haven't seen (permanent vacation, year of the horse)

remy bean, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:56 (eighteen years ago)

dead man is like one of my top movies of ... uh ... ever?

remy bean, Thursday, 13 December 2007 07:56 (eighteen years ago)

Dead Man is amazing from beginning to end, and back round again.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:04 (eighteen years ago)

I do have a weak spot for Ghost Dog, I admit

warmsherry, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:17 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't seen year of the horse, but the neil young score (if you can call it that) to dead man is one of my favorite soundtracks.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 13 December 2007 08:26 (eighteen years ago)

i'm with remy, noodle and tipsy. one of my all-time favourites.

Rubyredd, Thursday, 13 December 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)

Strangerthan Paradise by a ocuntry mile.

baaderonixx, Thursday, 13 December 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 17 December 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

xxxpost: I love Dead Man except for the soundtrack (and I am a Neil Young fan). It's really lazy and boring. I mean, compare it to Ry Cooder's Paris, Texas.

spectra, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

really? that's interesting, because i was never a neil young fan till i saw dead man. but ry cooder's st for paris, texas is fucking awesome.

Rubyredd, Monday, 17 December 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

Everything about Dead Man sets it apart. The entertaining ugly violence, the score, his best-looking black & white film and his best cast: Depp, Robert Mitchum, Gabriel Byrne, John Hurt, Iggy Pop, Crispin Glover, Alfred Molina, Billy Bob Thornton, and Bishop.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 17 December 2007 05:12 (eighteen years ago)

I think maybe being immersed in Jarmusch films but not zombie films made me like it more

Dan S, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:48 (six years ago)

Could be. I am very zombie filmed out

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:59 (six years ago)

good song

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:02 (six years ago)

it's the theme song.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

I lasted about 20 minutes with The Dead Don't Die

The World According To.... (Michael B), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:26 (six years ago)

you didn't miss anything

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:40 (six years ago)

You missed a lot of references to Sturgill Simpson

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:42 (six years ago)

made Paterson look like a masterpiece in comparison

that's a movie that's stuck with me despite not thinking much of it at the time - I bet it'll be the consensus late career pick for him when all is said and done.

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 November 2019 00:51 (six years ago)

Paterson was a better film, but I thought this was funny and I liked the way it looked. Was reminded that Amy Taubin spoke about the ‘radioactive’ quality of Frederick Elmes’ cinematography in the night-time scenes. The soundtrack by Jarmusch and Carter Logan was good too.

Dan S, Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:13 (six years ago)

Elmes' cinematography in Paterson was also great

Dan S, Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:15 (six years ago)

There were a couple Paterson jokes in TDDD! Even if the execution fell flat, it's pretty clear Jarmusch felt like doing a film of lazy riffing after doing a "serious" movie

mh, Thursday, 14 November 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

one year passes...

So wait theres not actually a ghost dog here or what

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:46 (five years ago)

Am I the only person who was disappointed that Ghost Dog used a gun and not a samurai sword?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:32 (five years ago)

Several aging mafiosos also id say

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:51 (five years ago)

eight months pass...

Just watched Only Lovers...I enjoyed it well enough. It may grow on me in the next few days as I think about it. There's a cue in the score after Marlowe's death that I'd swear is a variation on the Stooges' "No Fun."

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:46 (four years ago)

on Criterion?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:49 (four years ago)

Yeah, there's a new Jarmusch bundle with new arrivals OLLA and Coffee & Cigarettes, and Ghost Dog and Dead Man back for short engagements, plus the permanent library stuff.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Monday, 4 October 2021 01:52 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

In the last week i rewatched Mystery Train and Dead Man, partly out of curiosity because I hadn’t seen either in forever but loved them when they came out. I have to say Mystery Train didn’t really hold my attention. Maybe it’s a victim of its own influence, but the hipster riffs and in particular all the Elvis references felt a little rote. I did love the depiction of Memphis itself, and I didn’t dislike the film but it felt kind of pat.

Dead Man still rules, though. Just gorgeous, for one thing, and I think it’s grounded enough to carry all of its pretentions. The relationship between Blake and Nobody remains one of my favorite “buddy film” pairings.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:28 (four years ago)

I had the same reactions to both flicks, tipsy.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 October 2021 14:36 (four years ago)

four years pass...

having a little mini-early-jarmusch fest this morning while working, rewatching stranger than paradise and down by law.

stranger than paradise holds up great and lurie's score is fantastic. so much great footage of the scuzzy parts of america in the early 80s. it's a bit slight but the three characters are a fun hang.
down by law i remember loving when i first saw it, this time i feel like it takes too long to get to the prison and benigni, which is when it really kicks off. waits and lurie are basically playing the same guy so they need someone different to bounce off of. but benigni is so funny and the movie looks so much better than stranger than paradise, thanks to robby muller.

na (NA), Monday, 6 April 2026 19:12 (two months ago)

dead man and mystery train are my favs. love the dumb zombie movie too though i think it beefs the ending even within the looser parameters of the anti-comedy farce it's doing

ciderpress, Monday, 6 April 2026 19:46 (two months ago)

I loved the new one. I don't know if Father Mother Sister Brother is great Jarmusch, but what does great Jarmusch look like? How can we tell? Is this one better or worse than Mystery Train, Dead Man, Ghost Dog, or Only Lovers Left Alive? A lovely triptych, especially the Charlotte Rampling-Cate Blanchett-Vicky Krieps section.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 April 2026 19:57 (two months ago)

Parts of Dead Man have stuck with me in ways no other Jarmusch film did.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 6 April 2026 19:58 (two months ago)

idk Down By Law is perfect to me pacing wise. before prison and after prison. both parts cook.

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 6 April 2026 19:59 (two months ago)

i've rewatched dead man and ghost dog in the past few years, but i should go back to some of the other older ones. it's been a long time since i've seen mystery train.
i remember enjoying paterson a lot.

na (NA), Monday, 6 April 2026 20:19 (two months ago)

i guess the question is, has he ever made a bad movie? the only one i've seen that i disliked more than liked was the stooges documentary, but there are several i've never seen (broken flowers, limits of control, coffee and cigarettes, night on earth, the dead don't die, father mother sister brother)

na (NA), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 14:05 (one month ago)

Broken Flowers was dreadful and not even in a bad taste sort of way.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 14:12 (one month ago)

I thought the new one was extremely middling and kind of shallow, but a) I recently developed an aversion to scenes where two people converse while driving so I started off rooting against the film, and b) I acquiesced to my friend's desire to see this, which means I ended up missing out on seeing The Secret Agent while it was in theatres and I'm still mad about that.

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 14:34 (one month ago)

Meanwhile I've grown to love movies with two people talking and driving. At any rate the second section's the best.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 14:35 (one month ago)

I did immediately think of several counter examples after posting that :)

However, I found that opening leaden and clunky regardless of the setting, which probably then increased my disinterest in the subsequent driving & talking scenes. I do agree about the second section though -- that would have made a nice stand-alone short

obvious old hat (rob), Tuesday, 7 April 2026 15:12 (one month ago)


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