I don't cry at the end of that one, tho, sorry. It is, after all, a donkey.
Also he really doesn't like transistor radios.
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link
Meet Me in St. Louis doesn't count?? (still, you remind me of Andrew Sarris' review of the Annie film -- yes, the B'way musical -- where he admitted he cried during "Tomorrow")
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 20 November 2006 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:02 (seventeen years ago) link
"a man condemned to death has escaped"
just this saw at the national film theatre last night
wau
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 09:22 (sixteen years ago) link
just watched les dames du bois, it was interesting seeing his style still sort of evolving there. the use of "real" actors and the cocteau dialogue both create an interesting tension with what you can already tell are his inclinations toward severity and minimalism. cocteau isn't really his opposite, because he's elliptical and allusive, but he's at sort of a 45-degree angle to bresson (more romantic, obviously). maria casares is really good, so devilish.
― STRATE IN2 DAKRNESS (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 October 2009 05:42 (fourteen years ago) link
love this quote from him about working with casares:
A friend told me that in Julien Green’s South she had to appear on the stage saying, “it’s raining”; in French, il pleut. Despite the simplicity of these words, her tragedian’s temperament made her shout emphatically: “Il … Il … pleut!” […] To get courage, she used to drink a little glass of cognac before acting. When I chanced to discover this, I asked her to take a sedative instead, which she willingly did. Then things started to go better.
― STRATE IN2 DAKRNESS (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 October 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha! Just watched it too today! And this is not only OTM but very well-put: "he's at sort of a 45-degree angle to bresson." I just love how the whole thing is set in motion. Hélène is such a childish, preposterous, and dangerously so. And yet Bresson's intensity elevates her evil project.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 25 October 2009 05:54 (fourteen years ago) link
such a = so
i think lancelot du lac is the one ive liked the best or maybe i was just in the perfect mood for it, uncertainty and dread and severity. idk i thought it was really good, ive been kinda thinking about it all day
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
it is surely one of his very best. the jousting!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha yeah! its so tense but also anticlimactic, almost? amateursit tell why this movie is so good tho, is it the lighting???
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
no, it's the ambient sounds!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://books.google.com/books?id=8ESLZUA9lCsC&pg=PA289&lpg=PA289&dq=kristin+thompson+lancelot+du+lac+whinnies&source=bl&ots=OVcZ0zo27G&sig=acU08F9B_s_gyWJacZjIQNEA3L4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wT6kT5y1IoaFgwfVgL3oAQ&ved=0CE4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false
should revisit this one. does anyone else like his 'joan of arc' film a lot?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 20:43 (twelve years ago) link
syuzhet and fabula!!! (xp)
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
I just saw the Joan recently, it's fine, as good a climax as imaginable (perhaps better than Dreyer's).
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
saw "Joan" years ago -- maybe the closest Bresson came to dull craftsmanship.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
dr. morbius you can tell me why lancelot is so good too. (xp)
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
syuzhet and fabula!!!
best stalin-era comedy duo ever!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 21:46 (twelve years ago) link
i particularly like their "who's on first?" routine.
i agreed with what i understood to be the thesis of the article you linked but reading it made me laugh p hard i always forget that jargon is the humanities version of ~equations~
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
this note of bresson's seems relevant:
Slow films in which everyone gallops and gesticulates; quick films in which people hardly move.
raymond durgnat called red psalm 'processional' cinema, and lancelot du lac seems to fit that, too
(best joan of arc movie(s)= the full-length rivette version imho)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
that article is not really super-jargony, once you get past several russian formalist terms -- it's surely not written in a way designed to impede understanding as is often the case w/ academics.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
quick films in which people hardly move.
ha! he basically anticipates the matrix sequels.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
no no give or take a 'parametric variations' her style is quite good and clear it just struck me as funny perhaps because i am working/avoiding working on a paper stuffed full of equations atm
anyway 'ambient sounds' was a good answer, thank you for playing
― Lamp, Friday, 4 May 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i see. the book is very nearly all _about_ "parametric narration" and the introduction lays that all out pretty clearly IIRC. it's not the best-written article ever but i think it gets at some of the things that make the movie special.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
kinda interesting that so many of the best filmmakers have taken on this subject -- offhand i can't think of any other historical figure who's gotten that much attention. maybe napoleon, if we count kubrick's abandoned project.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0026778/
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
Jesus?
xpost
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
jesus: 359 filmsadolf hitler: 341 filmsabraham lincoln: 300 filmsjoan of arc: 82 films
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
don king: 9 films
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
i think bresson's joan of arc film is interesting, like all his films. the one i don't have much patience with is "a gentle woman."
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago) link
the casting of Dominique Sanda is all too easy.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQsEyyqF5Xw
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:13 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i meant 'great' filmmakers, as in it's interesting that ppl of the caliber of dreyer, bresson and rivette all felt compelled to take on joan. jesus is a good suggestion, tho, and lincoln has at least two greats in his corner (griffith and ford).
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
dreyer, bresson and rivette
don't forget luc besson!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
and Otto Perminger!
― Leslie Mann: Boner Machine (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 May 2012 23:51 (twelve years ago) link
the making of doc on the mouchette criterion is really awesome imo
― johnny crunch, Friday, 4 May 2012 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
Dreyer and Besson ftw!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 5 May 2012 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting - and gossipy - obit for Francois Weyergans, who made a documentary about Bresson and whose wife at the time later married Bresson and became his main collaborator:
https://www.sabzian.be/note/françois-weyergans-1941-2019?fbclid=IwAR2SpKhdd6s_68_kVLqhXQIMk1q3Z9eL6B80D8e_OBxIJuwGeU1xRbbQ7L8
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 10 June 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
Greatest character in film history is Charles in The Devil Probably (1977). Just tools around Paris talking shit on everyone he meets between getting his fuck on and doing suicide attempts. Total legend.— 𝖜𝖊 𝖆𝖗𝖊 𝖆𝖑𝖑 𝖎𝖓 𝖉𝖆𝖓𝖌𝖊𝖗 (@NickPinkerton) March 27, 2018
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 26 February 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link
watched again tonight and it is true
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 June 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link
Charles is like a couple of Parisians I've known
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 18 June 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link
indefinite integral of co-sign
― Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 18 June 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link
This is old news but hasn't been mentioned here: Four Nights of a Dreamer came out in a decent transfer on Blu-Ray in Japan a few years back. Seems it is also on Amazon Prime in the USA (I don't live there so I can't check the quality). But it's nice that this film is out there and looking OK. It can't touch his greatest films, but it certainly should be seen by every Bresson head and the movie premiere scene is great and memorable.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Friday, 16 October 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
I have Prime for two more days and no, it's not available in the US. :(
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 17 October 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
Destroy: Joan of Arc movie
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto)
rong
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 08:07 (one year ago) link
Getting into Bresson has been the greatest outcome of watching more old movies at home during the pandemic. Went to LA in September on a few weeks’ notice specifically to watch six of them in the theatre courtesy of American Cinemateque. Country Priest in 35mm and Lancelot in a recent 4K were both incredible, first time seeing each of them. The man was right about acting.
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 08:11 (one year ago) link
Great to read about Bresson still working his magic on newcomers. I envy you.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QvvIpXrnCA
― buzza, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby)
I was, yeah.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
Showing Pickpocket to my enthusiastic students in October was one of my premier teaching experiences.
You have a premium-level student subscription level?
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
SubscriptioN?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link
Sorry. Was making a bad joke because you said “premium experience.”
― The Dark End of the Tweet (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link
FYI, Four Nights of a Dreamer is streaming right now at Le Cinéma Club.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 24 December 2022 04:31 (one year ago) link