New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

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i mean i hate apple, but you know they haven't sold music with DRM for a good couple of years, right? and music you buy on itunes works on any music player.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:19 (fifteen years ago)

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lieb74.jpg

nitseh otm

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

oops, its nitesh my bad

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:20 (fifteen years ago)

I like how he's only pretty sure, not really definite there.

mh, Monday, 15 November 2010 16:36 (fifteen years ago)

Pretty sure any streaming music operation they come up will require some form of DRM.

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 17:44 (fifteen years ago)

I think technically, streaming IS DRM. As in, it's not downloading.

dan selzer, Monday, 15 November 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

yeah DRM is redundant, especially if the app is on iPhone/iPad, which are already locked down

just woke up (lukas), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

I think technically, with spotify at least, streaming is downloading

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/31/spotify_crypto/

Smiley panda mixed moniker (7,4) (onimo), Monday, 15 November 2010 17:53 (fifteen years ago)

but downloading in a protected format, no?

dan selzer, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:09 (fifteen years ago)

typical of apple to not let you keep streamed music : (

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:14 (fifteen years ago)

who lets you keep streamed music? It's always been this way...streamed music is treated like radio, and paid for the same way? Spotify pays labels, whereas streaming radio and similar services (Viva Radio, ie.) deal with publishing.

dan selzer, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:17 (fifteen years ago)

limewire and soulseek let you keep streamed music. h8 u steve job$$

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:19 (fifteen years ago)

I believe caek was kidding, but anyway, the "keeping streaming music thing" is a silly discussion. The whole point is that you don't have to keep it. If you own the music and want to have a copy on the device, you just sync.

If you're a dirty thief and want to keep streamed music you don't own, you'd have to jailbreak your iOS device and install some sneaky software to rip it. I doubt Apple would bother to take any DRM effort beyond that.

just woke up (lukas), Monday, 15 November 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

"today we're launching an app called store. this takes in mp3s, tv shows, apps etc. all of this shitty funcionality is being divested from itunes and with itunes 11 the application now only plays and manages music. merry christmas"

cozen, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:22 (fifteen years ago)

^^^^^^^^^^^
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pFuueSeWrVs/TCn4K0NgKWI/AAAAAAAASZg/cBFlG8a4Ols/coolaideyes.png

cozen, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:28 (fifteen years ago)

Actual announcement more like

http://imgur.com/aMDZM.jpg

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:31 (fifteen years ago)

theyre actually just giving up on iTunes and everything associated w/ it so sorry d00dz

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)

Well:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703326204575617004052395816.html?mod=e2tw

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

Terms of the deal that brought the Beatles music to iTunes could not be learned.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:52 (fifteen years ago)

Pagan sacrifice, etc

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:53 (fifteen years ago)

laaaaaaame

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 15 November 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

Woop woop. Because previously it was nigh on impossible to find those Beatles albums.

seandalai, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:54 (fifteen years ago)

anyone can go on Ebay and get the entire Beatles catalogue remastered for like $60 used

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 15 November 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)

why they are bothering selling music by this shitty band?

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:58 (fifteen years ago)

everyone i know buys their music on cd on ebay these days anyway, especially when buying gifts in december. apple FAIL.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 22:59 (fifteen years ago)

I suspect that there are an equal number of people who give a $50 gift card with a note that says YOU HAVE TO BUY FIVE BEATLES ALBUMS and people buying box sets on Ebay. Both of which are smaller in number than the people who'll just go on Demonoid/Piratebay and get that shit for free if they just want it on their iPod.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 15 November 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

otm. can't wait for steve jobs to eat humble (apple!) pie over this when no one buys these albums.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:04 (fifteen years ago)

Turn off your mind, relax and download a stream.

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:05 (fifteen years ago)

I can't decide if you guys are str8 trollin' or being willfully difficult if you are saying no one will buy the Beatles from iTunes. I don't know if you realize how many 50+ year olds have fallen into iTunes being the only "right" way to download music from the internets.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 November 2010 23:09 (fifteen years ago)

omg

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

worst news

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

http://i55.tinypic.com/2yx1af8.jpg

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:11 (fifteen years ago)

no, i am being serious when i say all the 50 year olds i know buy their cds on ebay. if anything apple will LOSE money on this.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

None of the 50 year olds I buy that AREN'T serious music collectors download from iTunes.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 November 2010 23:12 (fifteen years ago)

Er, switch that. Make "None" = "All".

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 November 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

theyre right though, ill never forget the day that apple made it sound like they had a huge announcement and it turned out that theyre just getting rights to some music i dont care about

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:13 (fifteen years ago)

RIP apple

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:14 (fifteen years ago)

xxp How many 50 year-olds have you ever bought?

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

thinking about steve jobs, watching the reaction on twitter. hope he is ok.

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:15 (fifteen years ago)

I'm not saying Apple won't make bank - only that it's not Earth-shattering news, particularly since it's been exactly one year since Beatles fans rebought the albums they care about.

boots get knocked from here to czechoslovakier (milo z), Monday, 15 November 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

otm

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:17 (fifteen years ago)

FWIW, there's also this:

http://www.macrumors.com/2010/11/15/hints-of-itunes-live-stream-service-found-in-itunes-10-1/

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:19 (fifteen years ago)

even if the news is just the beatles, you know this is going to be in every news outlet in the world, right?

caek, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:22 (fifteen years ago)

Going to wait until the copyrights run out and download it all free from archive.org.

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:23 (fifteen years ago)

who the fuck are the beatle

max, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:31 (fifteen years ago)

Spotify doesn't pay the labels enough for them to want to do it

Interestingly, a friend of mine had a meeting with Spotify recently and they told him that they now pay (in total) more in royalties in the UK than iTunes do. How much of this reaches the artists, I don't know.

Alba, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:33 (fifteen years ago)

YELLOW IPHONE

James Mitchell, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:35 (fifteen years ago)

$_$

markers, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:37 (fifteen years ago)

I would be surprised if the Beatles stuff is just a small piece of whatever announcement is happening tomorrow. Could be wrong, of course...

schwantz, Monday, 15 November 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)


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