New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

~welcome to the cloud yall~

MacRumors figures it has something to do with the North Carolina data center Apple's got going.

The massive datacentre I'm sick of hearing about has been on the news, and they've been buying cloud-type people like lala etc, so it's partly plausible I guess. Xp

Wasn't the Lala thing they bought out streaming?

xp etc

i have no idea what year it is, but wtf is a cloud.

Twitter+Ping integration = exciting

I assume this is a joke Ed

yeah, streaming makes sense, and i'm sure they've been pushing the labels for it for years. think their long term goal is to get away from all sales and transition entirely to rentals for all content. easier more profit.

would not be like them to launch something transitional to this like cloud storage of an owned collection. also they already have that back to my mac and shared collections thing.

Yeh but that's how iTunes cloud would work -- Spotify-like streaming when out and about for music you already own (and that is avail on iTunes).

They won't go as far as streaming any music you *want* like Spotify does, I don't think: labels already too scared of their power to agree to that. Rentals could work, though.

(that was to JM)

rentals and streaming are basically the same thing tho, assuming streaming isn't free.

Spotify is all-you-can-eat buffet, rentals are a la carte.

whenever they do their streaming thing, i bet its gonna be a deal where you pay for an album or song once and then always have the ability to listen to it no matter what computer or device youre on

actually renting a song or an album is insane

and they know that

Involvement of Apple in this ensures it will be overpriced and the DRM will be horrible. And it'll only work with iPhones and iPods, natch.

Yeah, music you "own" should be available wherever you are. The rest depends on the pricing. Spotify doesn't pay the labels enough for them to want to do it a) in the US b) at iTunes scale.

Apple has history of fucking iTunes up because it insists on it being about owning music. First version of Ping is best example: you couldn't even talk about music unless you'd bought it from iTunes. Who thought that was a good idea?

You mean other than the fact that the iTunes store is pretty much DRM-free for audio stuff, now?

that was a x-post

yeah, wtf does "the DRM will be horrible" mean?

was about to make the same point

also, pretty much anything i say about twitter is likely to be a joke

i mean i hate apple, but you know they haven't sold music with DRM for a good couple of years, right? and music you buy on itunes works on any music player.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2lieb74.jpg

nitseh otm

oops, its nitesh my bad

I like how he's only pretty sure, not really definite there.

Pretty sure any streaming music operation they come up will require some form of DRM.

I think technically, streaming IS DRM. As in, it's not downloading.

yeah DRM is redundant, especially if the app is on iPhone/iPad, which are already locked down

I think technically, with spotify at least, streaming is downloading

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/08/31/spotify_crypto/

but downloading in a protected format, no?

typical of apple to not let you keep streamed music : (

who lets you keep streamed music? It's always been this way...streamed music is treated like radio, and paid for the same way? Spotify pays labels, whereas streaming radio and similar services (Viva Radio, ie.) deal with publishing.

limewire and soulseek let you keep streamed music. h8 u steve job$$

I believe caek was kidding, but anyway, the "keeping streaming music thing" is a silly discussion. The whole point is that you don't have to keep it. If you own the music and want to have a copy on the device, you just sync.

If you're a dirty thief and want to keep streamed music you don't own, you'd have to jailbreak your iOS device and install some sneaky software to rip it. I doubt Apple would bother to take any DRM effort beyond that.

"today we're launching an app called store. this takes in mp3s, tv shows, apps etc. all of this shitty funcionality is being divested from itunes and with itunes 11 the application now only plays and manages music. merry christmas"

^^^^^^^^^^^
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pFuueSeWrVs/TCn4K0NgKWI/AAAAAAAASZg/cBFlG8a4Ols/coolaideyes.png

Actual announcement more like

http://imgur.com/aMDZM.jpg

theyre actually just giving up on iTunes and everything associated w/ it so sorry d00dz

Well:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703326204575617004052395816.html?mod=e2tw

Terms of the deal that brought the Beatles music to iTunes could not be learned.

Pagan sacrifice, etc

laaaaaaame

Woop woop. Because previously it was nigh on impossible to find those Beatles albums.

anyone can go on Ebay and get the entire Beatles catalogue remastered for like $60 used

why they are bothering selling music by this shitty band?

everyone i know buys their music on cd on ebay these days anyway, especially when buying gifts in december. apple FAIL.

I suspect that there are an equal number of people who give a $50 gift card with a note that says YOU HAVE TO BUY FIVE BEATLES ALBUMS and people buying box sets on Ebay. Both of which are smaller in number than the people who'll just go on Demonoid/Piratebay and get that shit for free if they just want it on their iPod.

otm. can't wait for steve jobs to eat humble (apple!) pie over this when no one buys these albums.

Turn off your mind, relax and download a stream.

I can't decide if you guys are str8 trollin' or being willfully difficult if you are saying no one will buy the Beatles from iTunes. I don't know if you realize how many 50+ year olds have fallen into iTunes being the only "right" way to download music from the internets.