Inception (with implanted spoilers)

Film would have been much much better had it turned into a surrealist masterpiece, but taken .001% of the money I guess.

i don't think bunuel ever did an action scene in his life

the carjacking in 'the discreet charm' is fucking showstopping

the sniper scene in 'the phantom of liberty' etc etc etc haha

i don't really like JGL in that picture - cut the hair and put him in a sharp suit like in inception and then we're talking. (and then get him out of the suit which inception NOTABLY FAILED TO DO.)

viridiana has some fisticuffs and assorted physical malarkey

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055601/

i do like the action/heist premise - think pulling out all the cray-cray stops wouldn't have ended well

violin being kicked down the street in l'age d'or = worth ten C Nolan blast-em-ups

Sigh. Actually we seem to both favour the same facial type, but completely different configurations of hairstyles and clothes.

That said, there's loads of Inception fanfict that takes on the "what if they had a sexdream?" questions out there.

also, i found myself a LOT more emotionally invested in fischer's weird father relationship and in his own motivations than in cobb's zzz guilt and inability to move on

Exactly! It was like, all these weird little premises they set up, they never bothered exploring any further. And spent way too long on the least interesting aspects.

I'm wondering if early in production some suit saw the dailies and said 'needs more guns' and they were forced to oblige

also I have been told that the South Park parody of this is awesome

The South Park parody of "Inception" rips an entire scene wholesale from CollegeHumor.com's parody. Also, there IS an awkward sex scene but not in the way you're thinking (unless you are a really weird American in his mid 30s).

(why didn't ariadne reprise this later?? you'd think it'd have helped)

She couldn't do anything too out of physical reality or it would draw attention to the fact that it was a dream. This is also why it isn't very surreal, and I for one am glad it didn't go down that route.

also, i found myself a LOT more emotionally invested in fischer's weird father relationship and in his own motivations than in cobb's zzz guilt and inability to move on

This is all down to Cillian Murphy imo. It also doesn't hurt that we have a pretty basic throughline on that subplot, and know what he needs to do and how to accomplish it, whereas with Cobb his past is being revealed piecemeal.

oh shit you guys are right, luis bunuel, one of the greatest filmmakers of all time, would have probably made a better movie! INCEPTION FAIL!!!!

Every guy in Inception was a good-looking guy.

dor ky

"Perhaps ‘Inception’ is a movie for people who just like movies that make up their own arcane rules, that have nothing to do with anything outside the movie itself, but give the fleeting illusion of creating an (incoherent) self-contained world. It’s for people who think the reductive Director’s Cut of ‘Donnie Darko’—the one that removes all the mystery and resonance and wit—to the original.”
- Jim Emerson

heh heh, motherfuckers :)

super cool lil movie

Thats like every movie ever.

I think maybe people who don't like this movie don't like a lot of explanation via dialogue. I rewatched it this weekend and that was the hypothesis I came up with. Caveat: One of my sanity rules is don't get in in depth discussions about movies on ILX so I'm not saying anything more.

I would also like to note that I would fuck the shit out of Cillian Murphy in this.

That is a very wise note.

Has Lex seen the film Mysterious Skin, in which JGL plays a rentboy?

I think maybe people who don't like this movie don't like a lot of explanation via dialogue. I rewatched it this weekend and that was the hypothesis I came up with. Caveat: One of my sanity rules is don't get in in depth discussions about movies on ILX so I'm not saying anything more.

― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Monday, December 20, 2010 11:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

yeah, i was thinking about that a while back - the exposition is VERY handholdy, and i think that quality will make it something that isn't as thrilling upon second viewing - the exposition in this is very fun and well done and involves you in the world and its rules, but everything's really spelled out in triplicate and you don't want a second helping of it. idk i havent seen it again so thats just a theory.

also, I've noticed that many ILXors have Haptephobia which might explain the extreme disgust of handholdyness in the movie

If you're going to do a cool movie about going into other people's dreams and stuff, why are all the dreams set in hotel lobbys, car parks and leafy city boulevards? I didn't catch the very end (saw up until the yawnsome Bond-esque skiing on the mountain sequence) because g/f fell asleep and I figured we'd pick it up again at some point (have not done this yet, obv), but does this film get any more imaginative towards the end? Or is the only cool bit when the girl is flipping parts of the city around?

If not then this movie is waste.

this movie is waste.

Most people's dreams are actually pretty prosaic ime. While situations might be weird or odd, settings rarely are, because your brain conjures them from experience.

so i guess we should congratulate nolan's verité in producing a thoroughly banal movie.

Also the whole point, as explained in the hand-holdy exposition that you seemed to miss, is that if you design the dream to be too weird, people arte aware it's a dream. The whole point is to make people NOT NOTICE.

Christ, you're a fucking idiot.

xposts.

but why have that little caveat? so you can make a really dull action movie?

my dreams tend to be a bit more Gondry-esque in setting. I never dream about skiing or gun fights or whatever.

(i see we've just had this discussion upthread, so will shut up before the anti-twee brigade get me).

aimless still otm upthread

http://www.utm.edu/research/iep-wp/wp-content/media//zhuangzi.gif

Well I fucking hate Gondry so there.

well i fucking hate Gondry so there

this isn't about liking him or not, nick.

"Whatever you do, don't dream about somewhere you've been before. And don't dream about anything too crazy either. In fact you're best off just dreaming about the most boring places you can possibly imagine." - how is this a premise for an entertaining film?

Most people's dreams are actually pretty prosaic ime. While situations might be weird or odd, settings rarely are, because your brain conjures them from experience.

― Tub Girl Time Machine (Phil D.), Tuesday, December 21, 2010 6:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I have reoccurring dreams about fantastic natural landscapes that i have never been to. Places so otherworldly beautiful i wake up teary eyed. Then again i sort of believe when you dream its a sort of pseudo-conscious astral projection.

I dream about old houses with hundreds of chambers and anterooms that are only accessible via tiny hidden wooden passageways. Haven't been to these AFAIK.

I've dreamt of rubies.

"Whatever you do, don't dream about somewhere you've been before. And don't dream about anything too crazy either. In fact you're best off just dreaming about the most boring places you can possibly imagine." - how is this a premise for an entertaining film?

maybe it's a metaphor for the hollywood pitching process?

It’s for people who think the reductive Director’s Cut of ‘Donnie Darko’—the one that removes all the mystery and resonance and wit—to the original.”

so basically people who can't form coherent sentences hate "Inception"

are the same arguments really being rehashed out again on this thread, or is this part of the 'inception'

It's sort of funny that the people hated this movie for its lack of imagination are repeating the exact same things.

I feel like I've dreamt this whole thread before.

I thought for some reason that ILX would twig to the fact that Inception isn't so much about dreams as it is about the experience of watching a movie.

experience of watching a mediocre movie

I will admit, that as far as movies about tempermental dreamweavers haunted by muses and played by guys from Gangs Of New York go, it sure beats Nine.

I think if you put Fergie's musical number from "Nine" into the middle of "Inception" with no preamble or explanation and then continued on from there as if it hadn't happened, you would have a movie that would have satisfied the haters.

the haters != josh duhamel