OK I've always been into women with a prominent schnoz but that page is weird.
― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)
a woman is better if there's less of her in all directions
This reading still kind of bothers me, though. I agree that there's something pernicious about the preference for "tight little bodies" (and not just in the phrasing), but I feel like you're trying to turn it into a metaphor for the amount of respect men have for women, whereby preferring smallness suggests that men would rather women not be there at all. Which just seems like way too much of a leap to me. If you do want to psychoanalyze it, it makes more sense to say that a preference for smallness may indicate a desire to dominate, but I don't think that this is the same thing as negating the woman altogether, nor even disrespecting her.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:39 (eighteen years ago)
Or not necessarily the same thing. In plenty of instances, it probably is.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:42 (eighteen years ago)
its not negating the woman altogether, its reducing her size to the level of objecthood
― max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)
jay, OTM.
It could also be, as I figured out from a few of my friends who seem to have an inability to date any woman over 5'2"/115lbs. - They want someone that they can feel like they are protecting. From what? Who the fuck knows? They just want to feel like they're needed, because, without their big, strong protector of a man, those little girls are gonna get killed, raped, beat up, taken advantage of, etc.
Kind of a really, really wierd daddy thing.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)
kind of a pedo thing, sounds like
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
Man, I hope my punctuation improves over the course of the next week - if I use commas and hyphens that loosely in the bar exam, I am fucked!
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)
that hannah montana has a tight little body
― max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, maybe, but without any of the inherent taboos that pedo has with it. With THOSE guys, a huge part of the turn-on is that this is pretty much verboten by any societal norms today. Whereas these doll-daters really just want this perfect, little woman replicant that they can worship/protect.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:49 (eighteen years ago)
Despite hating his songs, I would not want to fight Billy Ray over this - he's got some guns.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:50 (eighteen years ago)
y'know, everyone's got their own idea of beauty and I don't necessarily think there's anything wrong with psychoanalyzing it a little, but all this "you like skinny women, you've got a creepy daddy/doll complex" shit is really getting into some sub-Freudian quackery.
― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:52 (eighteen years ago)
nor am I criticizing liking "little" women...whether little means short or petite or thin or whatever!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:59 (eighteen years ago)
Nothing wrong with having a thing for people with a certain dress style, physical build, or ethnic background. And people shouldn't be made to feel bad about what they like.
Still, somehow, "tight little body" grosses me out.
― contenderizer, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:59 (eighteen years ago)
Oh whatever, this is not the thread for it. My last words on the subject: sometimes big guys find shorter or smaller ladies endearing, I think, because they are everything the guys are not, and the "other" will always have its appeal out of sheer otherness. Nothing wrong with that. But when men do repeatedly state a pref for small/innocent/young/childlike/thin/"tight" etc women who are not outwardly powerful and seem unaware of their own potential, I do sort of wonder what insecurity is being played out here. (NB I have also known several skinny tiny men who liked not-small women and I'm sure issues of physical presence and substance are in play there, too!)
I DO NOT, however, think "tight little body" has anything to do with that nec except in being assholeish and we've already established the important thing, which is that if BLAM was serious and his wife found out, she'd beat him up for us. Problem solved!
― Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:07 (eighteen years ago)
And I'm all for people having their preferences - different strokes for different folks.
But it went seriously overboard with one dude in particular. Each successive romantic interest, of which there were five that I knew of in the time I was close with him, were all within those boundaries.
Plus, there were the three fights he picked because of percieved, but ultimately imagined, slights against said women.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:09 (eighteen years ago)
she'd beat him up
She really only does this when I ask her to.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)
uh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)
this "tight little body" thing is a red herring - guys who use that phrase are after Tara Reid or Lucy Liu; they have no interest in SJP.
and I'm not a doctor, but I won't agree that someone needs a nose job or any other kind of plastic surgery unless they have had some sort of injury or debilitating dysmorphia or something
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:24 (eighteen years ago)
haha in what universe does tara reid have a tight little body.
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:28 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.aeispeakers.com/images/headshots/Simmons-Richard.jpg
― Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, I find the idea of nose jobs really distasteful, more than almost any other kind of cosmetic surgery, like you've gotta have some serious self-loathing going on to want to completely change something that really defines the shape and character of your face.
Tara Reid does not have a tight little body. (haha xpost)
― Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)
lol self-hating jews
― Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)
maybe I'm thinking Tiffany-Amber Thiessen, then. I dunno, one of those people. point is, SJP is not really on these dudes' radar screen, nahmean?
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
maybe I'm thinking Tiffany-Amber Thiessen, then
lol
― Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:38 (eighteen years ago)
tiffany is so hot
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)
TS:
http://content8.flixster.com/question/40/03/47/4003478_std.jpg
v.
http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/files/2006/05/ashlee_simpson2.jpg
v/
http://images.teamsugar.com/files/usr/0/5711/sarah%20jessica%20parker.PNG
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
kelly ripa has a tight little body!
― chaki, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:41 (eighteen years ago)
btw, SJP is 5'4. I imagined her to be taller.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
I totally thought she'd be shorter. Hmmm.
― B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
http://movie.frenchdirectors.com/directors/rebeccablake/img_movies/music_video_prince_kiss.jpg
― Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
(5"2')
― Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:52 (eighteen years ago)
or 5'2"
tight
― carne asada, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)
also SJP's nose does not always look that small as it does in that picture on th eright. it's all makeup/lighting methinks. anyway i love her big nose! she works it.
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:06 (eighteen years ago)
you mean it's hard work to carry the damned thing around, right?
― darraghmac, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
yeah kind of. i mean considering the girth of it she carries it off well.
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
eeeh, i dunno. she varies hugely between witch and girlie cute.
― darraghmac, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:13 (eighteen years ago)
there was a girl i went to hs w/that had this just insane lolhueg nose and i totally didnt hold it against her when she got it trimmed down a little
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:14 (eighteen years ago)
Too big to pick up?
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:21 (eighteen years ago)
gah i was shocked when i got to college and met like 5 girls who had gotten nosejobs in their teens (at least 3 were from long island)
― bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:23 (eighteen years ago)
long guyland
― gff, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
i got a big schnoz so i am v v sensitive about this conversation
me too. i'm from long island but i haven't gotten it fixed yet. i want to though.
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:43 (eighteen years ago)
i have a big nose i guess, but i don't really care.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:45 (eighteen years ago)
your nose isn't that big.
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:45 (eighteen years ago)
it just looks like a man's nose.
― Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
My nose is awesome
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
I don't really realize how big my nose is until I see it in profile, which isn't often, so it doesn't bother me.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
let's see ur nose
this nose im speaking of was all time epic and would put any of your noses to shame - it was still pretty big once she got a bunch of it clipped off!
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)