I just finished book #10 of Robert Jordan's stupid series.

slavery has been illegal for over a century

seanchan chains

my younger brother bought me the book and can't get it to me until next week, the little shit

It's the thought that counts

i'm thinking of slapping him

Maybe just sniff at him Nynaeve style

so I probably shouldn't talk about the argument Rand and Elayne have over the ter'angreal and how it puts their babies in jeopardy

thinking of slapping a lot of ppl tbh *sniff, crosses arms

now all you need to do is grow your hair out into a braid and all your cosplay dreams will come true

tbh i'm trying to get rid of my bosoms so no

Anyway, think this should be a spoiler thread now. Wanna talk about some of the crazy epilogue shit.

^^^^^

By the way, according to Saunderson the final book won't be out til March 2012 at the earliest and could be pushed back as far as Christmas.

which in all fairness is p reasonable deadline. esp considering hes working on his own multivolume epic.

the epilogue had THE MOST frustrating moment in the book for me. gawd, so annoying.

i want to get to spoilers

and goddamn that is a heavy book
and once again forced ppl to get me my volume

so
- aviendha chapters, dark and great (and i hate her)
call lots into question, open up de future

Perrin came back into greatness, always loved him, the last books were off so happy that emo Perrin is mebbbe, hopefully, in-shallah dead
and Perrin gave me one of de best sections in the book and i think one of the best all around scences

egwne rocked in last book, felt wrong here
found bunches of ppl feeling off but not sure if that is writing or feeling much speedier shutdown of plotlines

I am still back and forth on this volume but cannot wait for next one,

Yeah, you'll be waiting a while though. I know it's not fair to expect Saunderson to cast his aside all his own work to concentrate on this but godammit he should!

hq; already read the first installment of hie new ten book series ) that was also a big book; impressed he was able to get this out while writing that
man seems to have serious work ethic

ok on my table now. paid twice the price locally than i would have on amazon but feckit didn't fancy waitin

guys this fkn book.

Srsly, retroactive rewrite from this guy could turn books 7-11 into one awesome hardback, do future generations a massive favour

haha

i might re-read these when final book's done, just skipping every single scene focusing on internal politics, aes sedai or 'feelings'. If i have a sharpie on hand i could pretty much provide a working 6 bk WOT out of that exercise alone

i mean, imagine a wheel of time with no internal dialogue?

I've always been aware of this series but have never read it. Is it worth reading as I've heard lots of bad things about it (overlong, lots of filler, etc etc)?

yes. Now that there's an end in sight it's much easier to recommend

Didn't want to get in another Song of Ice and Fire situation is all.

lyfe is a journey towards trust, we've all been hurt before. I read 6 thomas covenant books ffs.

In truth the painfulness of the filler is overstated - like Crossroads of Twilight doesn't really advance the plot at all but otherwise it's not a bad read! In the context of people waiting years for each book though it's that crushing realisation that you've just spent 2 years waiting, $30 buying and two sleepless nights devouring only to get... not very far along toward the end of the story.

I guess the other thing that's frustrating is how certain sub-plots get a lot of time spent on them when you know ultimately they're not going to add much to the main plot. Like, on the one hand i was pleased to see that whole plot about the Aes Sedai using the oath rod to test potential black ajah sisters in the tower get wrapped up in The Gathering Storm, but in retrospect... was it even necessary? The only thing it really added to the main plot AFAICT was to give Egwene the idea to use the oath rod in that way, which she would have been able to work out for herself (or Verin could have suggested it).

egwene is so inconsistent from ythis book to the last. Jordan/sanderson cant seem to decide if she's an asshole or maybe the best character in the entire thing.

Halfway through this one, she's an asshole.

Yeah, not wanting to derail the thread but the same sort of thing happened with George R R Martin. I mean, the last book was split in two, Part 1 came out in 2005 and we're still waiting for Part 2 (Sep 2011 at the moment but it's been delayed so many times who knows whether that date will stick or not).

well the big difference is that Robert Jordan got sick which impacted his ability to write, whereas George R R Martin appears to be spending all of his time getting photographed with female fans way out of his league

I love reading precis of plot points of fantasy/sf books I haven't read. Can't think of anything more intriguingly baffling. I'm lurking on this thread quite a lot because I'm interested in these books but will never, ever be bothered to tackle them beyond book 2.

egwene is so inconsistent from ythis book to the last. Jordan/sanderson cant seem to decide if she's an asshole or maybe the best character in the entire thing.

Halfway through this one, she's an asshole.

Yeah but I think one of the reasons she seems like an asshole is that we know stuff she doesn't about Rand.

^^^ exactly; in her position and with the facts she has at hand, most people would draw the same conclusions/behave the same way

It's amazing how much obsessive egwene hate there is on the interwebs though. Even before this book, but especially now. "RAND HAS SAVED THE WORLD SO MANY TIMES, ALL THAT STUPID BITCH CARES ABOUT IS HER INCOMPETENT WHITE TOWER!!"

part of the reason she doesnt know is that she's been smugly assuming stuff since book #2 or w/e.

He's all 'it's cool bro' now tho.

xp think the criticism of the aes sedai on that point was only acknowledged in this book tbh- the whitecloaks have been 'bad guys' since first appearing, and there's diffs btwn them but maybe not all that much sometimed.

Cf: testing of nyneave. Some sadistic shit

part of the reason she doesnt know is that she's been smugly assuming stuff since book #2 or w/e.

I meant what happened at the end of the last book.

If Rand had turned up at The White Tower like, one chapter before, and said the same thing, we'd all be like "NO BRO DON'T DO IT!"

na i'da been 'yeah man squash them, totes'

Cf: testing of nyneave. Some sadistic shit

Oh yeah, that was beyond brutal

Like, I generally think of the Aes Sedai is a sometimes misguided force of good, but that was just WOW

Between that and Galad taking over the Whitecloaks, it seems that Sanderson is merrily shuffling the factional status quo (kind of can't wait to see how Aviendha's visions are dealt with)

aes sedai = us imo, under elaida = bush admin, under egwene = hils clinton forsure.

Blowin ur minds

lol, Egwene as Obama analogue is kind of hilarious (and... a little scary)

elaida is gwb cmon we all know it

with Alviarin as Cheney...

eek

w....s?

DUDE NO

tbrr, i cant remember which aes sedai are good, bad, dead or just somewhere else at this stage.

But i dont think that sprawling complexity is a bad thing, in itself, as long as we keep trundling towards a kickass setpiece every couple hundred pages

pillowmate don cheney killed thread rip

haaaaaaaa

thats what you get for dallying with GOP ajah

I can't believe Rand's going to break the seals and let Ronald Reagan return to the world.