The Great Moving Right Show II: The Kirsty and Phil Years

same school as lily allen /carmody

there's something singularly objectionable about a school called 'bedales'. you may well claim that i'm not really in a position to judge people by their school. in that case, i shall draw attention instead to the 'nine schools' bit, the 'first property aged 19' bit, the peer father bit, the Christies bit, the 'married to millionaire property developer' bit, and (possibly above all) the 'two stepchildren' bit. argh argh argh.

Steve Mannion left the group Boris Johnson is a fucking Tory for Christ's sake.

RIP

http://music.guardian.co.uk/pop/story/0,,2246084,00.html

"Old clothes old ideas and all this resting in the country business"

"Goldfrapp discover hauntology" shocker.

I guess Focus Group will be producing the next Madonna album then. Or more likely Burial.

i did ctrl + f "right-wing" for that article, but nothing came up.

(i'm sure quits meant to update a goldrapp hread on ilm)

it's the article itself, rather than teh frapp's new 'human after all' direction, that i think makes it fit this thread. the discourse they've been put into, kind of thing.

o ok. you mean a kind of carm0dy-st3lfox "grime doesn't fit the rural" controversy vibe?

not really -- carmody lives in the west country, and i'm not really going out to bat for grime/dubstep/whatever. on the contrary jude rogers (author of this) loves teh burial. all that stuff i find really depressing! what i'm on about is sentences like this:

"Up a long country lane, a smiling, affable Will Gregory opens the broad oak doors to Pipers Gate."

and the quote was from an old maclaren/westwood thing, i think -- i guess in ref to 'country life'. i don't think in itself the pastoral vibe is a bad thing -- but there's 200 years of uh issues to deal with there, and this piece runs straight into it without a thought.

"not really -- carmody lives in the west country, and i'm not really going out to bat for grime/dubstep/whatever."

ah you do know the specific thread i'm referring to, right?

no. i have an idea of what you might mean.

the clusterfuck southall-carmody-stelfox-passantino days.

[You know everybodies talkin about the good ol days right?] yeah
[Everybody, the good ol' days, the good ol' days]
The good ol' days, yeah
[Well let's talk about the good ol' days]
Let's talk about them shits now
Word up, baby
[Can it be that it was all so simple then]
KnowhatI'msayin, take you on this lyrical high real quick
1993 exoticness
KnowhatI'msayin, let's get technical
Where's your bone at, get up on that shit aight
Yo!!

it helps to see the thread (is it baleeted?), but all i meant was were you objecting to a tone of "pastoral pop must be made away from the town" by the journo.

no, not that, though that may well be subtext; just a generalized scrumping-for-apples isn't-life-jolly thing that sticks in my life-hating craw.

j/k life's okay rly :D

sweet ;-)

i'd like to have a big house in wiltshire too! lol.

keep posting ;-)

Dreams are there to show you the way
(Better take a look inside)
Close your eyes find out what they're trying to say
(You gotta take a look inside)

Only for a minute
Just to make a start
Imagine what you wanna see

Wake him up the wizard
Sleeping in your heart
Just imagine what you wanna be
Don't you know that...

Dreams come true they do
Dreams come true
From all of us to all of you they do

Don't you know that dreams come true
Love is just a second away
(Better take a look inside)
Make that magic rule, let the miracle stay
(You gotta take a look inside)

Only for a minute
It's not a fantasy
Just imagine what you wanna be

Don't you know that...

Don't you know that dreams come true
Don't you know that dreams come true
Only for a minute
You can make your dreams come true

i think kate bush is a good example of doing the 'rural escape' thing without fucking it up.

isb

what now?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f1/Incredible_String_Band_-_Hangmans.jpg

oic. look like they don't bath much.

Honestly, you can't tell whether they're a man or a woman!

The whole the Observer Food Magazine made me think of this thread to-day.

it's all about passing on things to future generations, holding the planet in trust. All of that sort of language of stewardship, comes very, sort of naturally to a Conservative politician.'

Cammy also says (talking about Arnie S)
'He actually is a very effective politician. One measure of his effectiveness is that he was re-elected, and that's always a good way to measure things! Ha!'

Well, of course, and Blair was re-elected 3 times...or no wait...

Oops. Should be elected 3 times, only re-elected twice.

Is there a correct term for people who are Conservative in all beliefs, but refer to themselves as "liberal" because they know that "liberalism" is good but conservativism is "bad"?

The kind of people who, about three times a week, link to a Daily Mail column on their blog with some sort of "OMG I agree with an article in the Daily Mail! Whatever next!" comment. That sort.

Reminds me of the dude who wrote Life On Mars/Ashes To Ashes in an interview saying "I do hope we haven't created some sort of Daily Mail hero character in Gene Hunt". Sure, right.

The term in question is, I think, "gliberal."

I was thinking of "ILXor".

Well no, that would imply a LOM/ATA response along the lines of "yaBOOSH who cares if Hunt is horrible sexist thug and none of it makes sEnSe it is slasher thatcherkid fan fiction CUBBLEHOOPS kittenz"...

phil just said "on the money"

iirc dom was working for phil. soon he'll be saying "would so run up on that" no doubt.

Does the fact that Yuppie Wants Buy House and Get Botox! Now! type programs have replaced MDF Will Make Semi Nice and Budget Airline Staff / Crap Drivers Are Funny! as cheap 8 till 9 television entertainment show reflect the prosperous times we are living in? Or not.

-- acrobat, Monday, September 17, 2007 3:32 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Link

I find it ironic that a; I was mentioned on this thread without really knowing it existed (and I'm still not sure what I was an example of), b; that Paul revived it with the post above a week before I moved into my first house.

And c; that I watched Peep Show for the first time last night, but only because it was on after Derren Brown who was on after Grand Designs Live. My friend Dan applied to be on Derren's program where Derren was going to shoot himself. But as soon as Derren's researchers got wind of what Dan does (film academic) they wouldn't let him anywhere near. Emma was outraged that the girl "killed" the kitten and thought it was completely unrealistic and therefore faked. I don't think I would have killed the kitten, but a; I'm not a 19 year old girl from a broken home with a bastard dad, and b; Derren didn't try and make me kill a kitten.

Em adores Phil & Kirsty. We watch them every week when they're on. We love property porn. I prefer Kevin McCloud though. He's called McCloud for a start, which means he sounds like a hero from a Reaganite 80s action film, also his whole thing is about... renewing the family, perhaps, by building these amazing, unusual, sustainable, light family homes. It's always family homes. I believe in family. I think family is good. Two parents, couple of kids. Dog, cat, big kitchen. My instinct when watching any property porn, though, is always "where in this house would I put my stereo?" Em wouldn't buy Kirsty's "picture hanging kit" for £30 though. She gets me to hammer a nail into the wall. Our furniture comes from an almost equal mix of John Lewis, Habitat, and Ikea.

I laughed at Peep Show. I thought it was funny when he jizzed his pants in the stationary cupboard. I had little idea what to expect, except that Wikipedia described it as a "comedy of manners". A "comedy of manners" is surely a very, very middle class thing. I saw the Mitchell & Webb sketch show once, and thought it was shite. They're both Cambridge grads, and Footlights alumni. Mitchell was head or chair or CEO or something of Footlights, actually.

My conclusion is that I'm almost entirely solipsistic.

Not even a week; we got the keys on Friday 22nd.

I meant to say, though, in the little semi-rant about "family = good", that even though I think this, and Em most assuredly thinks this, we've discussed the fact that actually, at the moment, neither of us really wants children because we're too selfish. And that we've both felt a bit guilty for feeling that we don't want children.

TS: "family" vs. EastEnders "fairmly," i.e. "I don't wanna poke my eye out with a gangrene spoon, Roxy, but I gotta do it for the fairmly."

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article4172669.ece

The current rise of the Tories has been accompanied by a growing acceptance of poshos in popular culture, and while the financial gap between the rich and poor might be growing, the cultures are mixing together in previously unimaginable ways.

idiot.

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/citd/RussianHeritage/10.EMP/SCMEDIA/Wren.Ermak.gif

yuppie wankers

Sophie Heawood morelike "fucking retard", amirite?

'great' article in the times today about 'anonymous' too, only several months late

But James Blunt’s PR people decided to use his Sandhurst background as his USP, rather than hide it.

Or, y'know, having served active service in Kossovo. Same thing though, right?

C4 have their new social / house / see other peoples lives things going, with this show about auditioning a home help. Last night some frighteningly avaricious nouveau riche headhunters who overate and drove a Ferrari (and a huge 4x4) had a very interesting clash with a potential home help who was well-spoken and had lived in Africa as a teacher where she'd had her own house keepers and who couldn't deal with being a housekeeper herself (at least not for them). I'm not sure came out of it looking worse.

The "are you gay?" bit in the first ep of that was amazing.

that sth qfrican pa was plain WEIRD