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"i saw a man running out, and people chasing him.."
go get em!!!

dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

x-post sociah-t-azzahole

OTM people in other countries experience this terror every hour of every day.

battlingspacemonkey (battlingspacemonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

"i saw a man running out, and people chasing him.."

I laughed at that image, but feel bad for it now.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

heard across the office:
co-worker one: oh!! have you seen what just happened! while i was in the kitchen?
co-worker two: no, what?
co-worker one: another wicket! that's eight now!!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

dummy nail bombs? that just sounds bizarre.

phones seem to be ok-ish, btw.

is there any confirmation about this "bomber inside uch" thing? has anyone got any working online news sources other than the bbc?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

Reuters is up, toby.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

Why are newscasters so fucking up themselves, is it not possible for them to talk to a "civilian" without sounding like they are being given a lapdance by a tramp who stinks of shit?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

my colleagues keep referring to the cricket too. I HATE HENS CRICKET.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

news 24 mainly concentrating on COBRA meeting at the mo, not switching over to sky...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

hehhe tovely image ronan...

dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

How are you supposed to prevent would-be suicide bombers from getting on the tube? Metal detectors? Spot searches of rucksacks? Just prevent anyone who looks even vaguely Asian from getting on the train at all?

Well, police presence, metal detectors and spot searches would be a start. Fuck "liberties." The police are obviously more interested in harassing passengers on the 37 bus at Clapham Common about not having proper bus tickets than they are in protecting citizens from terrorist attacks.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Text from my little sister: "The police keep saying it's not a major incident...so why have they taken bloody neighbours off!?"

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

i wouldn't be totally astonished if rucksacks got banned from the tube after this.

tisssp - thanks. i couldn't get reuters to work earlier, so i'd given up on it.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

If it were a choice between liberties being violated and innocent people being blown up, I know which I'd opt for.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

the cricket is pretty much the only thing keeping me focussed right now.

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Public willingness to queue up to have every bag searched on every journey would last maybe one day after an actual bomb.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Fuck "liberties."

Might as well live in an extremist Islamic state then, eh? ;-)

Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

"and as you can see, there are armed officers there..."
pan to copper sitting in his car, armed crossed, jaw gnawing a big wad of gum, doing FUCK ALL
ha!

dahlin (dahlin), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Banning rucksacks = stopping drugs by banning small cellophane wrappings.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

would metal detectors detect plastic explosives?

we should make everyone go through a volatile isolation tank before getting on the tube, any bombs will blow up inside, killing noone but the bomber.

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

I wish Ava would come into the office again today.

Have you managed to get anything to eat, Ken?

That was very good, Ronan.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

"metal detectors and spot searches would be a start"

X-post

So every time every person wanted to get on a Tube at any station they would have to queue up, have their bag x-rayed, empty their chage into a little tray etc?

It presents certain logistical issues, no?

Ian Blair just told everyone to stay where they are for the time being.

Alex M (Alex M), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

we need spray in a can resin like with the bomb dogs on day today.

Pete W (peterw), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

cor, that just might work. er xxxpost i think. ken c isolation tank OTM

g-kit (g-kit), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

178-9

Alex M (Alex M), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

The problem is that banning any kind of container is no deterrent--it's perfectly possibly to put enough explosive to kill a few people in your mouth, which will detonate when you snap your jaw shut.

Contrived example, I know, but I just want to illustrate that banning rucksacks would be pointless--i.e. Martin S OTM.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I thought they were planning to have sniffer dogs on the tube. I was thinking about this though, surely when said dog gets a scent it's going to start reacting and stuff (dribbling, whatever dogs do when they smell explosives), and cause the bomber to panic, resulting in badness?

Plus, dogs can't look up.

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Then again, maybe that's what they said about security procedures when getting on planes. When did that start happening? I know it had been lax prior to 9/11 but when did it become widespread standard?

Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Public willingness to queue up to have every bag searched on every journey would last maybe one day after an actual bomb.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), July 21st, 2005 2:27 PM. (later)

Even if they did this people could just blow up the queues of people waiting to have their bags searched. It's depressing, but if someone's determined to do it, there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

I don't think its rucksacks which are the problem, its the bombs within. You can put bombs in a briefcase, handback, record bag etc etc.

BBC are mentioning UCH incident, but not much more details.

Pete (Pete), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

heard across the office:
co-worker one: oh!! have you seen what just happened! while i was in the kitchen?
co-worker two: no, what?
co-worker one: another wicket! that's eight now!!

'Wicket' clearly = terrorist code for 'bomb'. Make a citizen's arrest on these colleagues of yours now please, Mark.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

University College Hospital is the affiliated hospital

The guy who is head of emergency medicine (or something that makes him responsible for implementing emergency procedures for the whole hospital) is an Irish guy, and so has been on RTE radio a lot in the last couple of weeks, talking about the bombing. He's just been on to say that he has not been beeped with the special alert code that indicates a major incident, so he is not worried.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

More teleworking pls.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I've never not seen xray machines for flights. I just used to be able to wear my shoes through them, is all.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

PA Snap:

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair appealed to Londoners to "stay where you are" in what he described as a "very serious incident".
end

Alex M (Alex M), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

"This is glib, but to think that people in Baghdad, Jerusalem, Tel-Aviv and elsewhere deal with this week in week out...
-- Sociah T Azzahole (stevem"

touche - on fri 8th i got a call from my friend ran checking i was ok. i haven't spoken to ran since about september, other than a couple of emails back in april. he lives in tel aviv and i never, ever think to call him when anything happens there (- because he is my friend and i love him therefore it's impossible for anything to happen, presumably - stupid (and arrogant?) thinking as we have all found out), yet as soon as anything happened in london he was calling me up...

emsk, Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps people just shouldn't be allowed to carry anything onto public transport. We've all got too much crap anyway.

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember going through an X-ray in 1973 when I was on a plane that had a bomb scare. (But then again, considering how much happened on that whole trip, small details may have escaped my infant brain.)

All this fuss about airport security began in the early 1970's after a rash of hijackings occurred. Before then, there were no security measures at airports. In 1970 the Air Marshall program began, but was limited by budget and agents flew on only a few international flights. By 1973 the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) demanded that all passengers and carry on items be searched. But it wasn't until after September 11th, 2001 that airport security was thrust into the public mindset. Armed with only box cutters they had carried on the plane, 19 terrorists on four planes hijacked those planes. Shortly afterwards, the TSA was formed and Congress demanded all airport screeners be federal employees. Before then, most security at airports was performed by private contractors. There are now more than 48,000 federal airport screeners around the country. All baggage, whether carry-on or checked, must be x-rayed.

Rum, Sodomy and the LAN (kate), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

The only slightly reasonable option is sniffer dogs for plastic explosives.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Banning rucksacks = stopping drugs by banning small cellophane wrappings.
-- Martin Skidmore (lonewolf.cu...), July 21st, 2005 1:27 PM. (Martin Skidmore) (later)

= ban australian backpackers?

ken c (ken c), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

not to be glib, but i love how even the bbc describes them as "sniffer dogs." anyway, yeah, otherwise this is pretty disconcerting.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

yes police seem to be upgrading this to a "very serious incident"

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

What is the proper term for sniffer dogz?

Raston Warrior Robot (alix), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps people just shouldn't be allowed to carry anything onto public transport. We've all got too much crap anyway.

But we still wouldn't be safe. Someone could just hurl a grenade at a bus or something. You just have to get on with life and hope nothing else happens, and hope the police catch everyone.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

(my source = someone in the office)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

ok a guy on bbc is now describing them as "loud bangs" and not explosions. even corrected himself from saying the latter.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

news conference soon, this should clear things up.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

What is the proper term for sniffer dogz?

Nosehounds.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps people just shouldn't be allowed to carry anything onto public transport. We've all got too much crap anyway.

But we still wouldn't be safe. Someone could just hurl a grenade at a bus or something. You just have to get on with life and hope nothing else happens, and hope the police catch everyone.

I know, I was being glib. Alternatively, we could all go naked?

Huey (Huey), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Anthrax or something similar crosses my mind. A small explosion would be enough to spread spores far and wide.
*fruitless and hopefully stupid speculation ends, waits for news conference like a sensible person*

Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)


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