What's the deal with Americans and nudity? [WORK-SAFE AGANE HURRAH]

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I can't imagine anything that would be fun to do with Michael Stipe.

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It would be fun to throw things at him.

Nicolars (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Lisa & I have twice done a photo project where we've taken regular & Polaroid photos of people (about 300 people total so far), all of them wearing a fish mask to cover their face & nothing else; then we write one specific, honest compliment about each person's body on their Polaroid, and give it to them... we did it at a big party a couple of months ago, and it was a MAJOR hit.

Douglas, I read "compliment" as "complaint" and I was thinking, "Douglas is a jerk and his friends are masochists." Heh heh, whoopsie.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Sitting on nail in sauna: CLASSIC thing to happen to someone else. Watch the jumping bean hopping around with a burned ass or worse!

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

glasses also no good skinny dipping or in the sauna, but it's still fun in spite of the blindness

Fun, with burning eyes and nowhere to hang your glasses?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(good in the sauna: sitting on a naif)

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

plastic framed and lensed don't burn but the do mist up.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

real reason american men wear towels in the sauna: to prevent dread testes to hot nail contact! (what the deal with europeons and testes to hot nail contact?)

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

B-but I am a jerk and my friends are masochists!...

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

long article in the Washington Post about this very topic:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30524-2003Oct28.html

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I read that this morning. At the end, the reporter chickens out and can't get naked in front of other people. What a dud.

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I do wonder, actually, why Americans so compulsively wrap the towels in lockerrooms when it's only other guys around. Not all, but a lot do.

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It may be a more recent phenom that the Victorian age, in fact may be a product of post-50s affluence in the States. It became expected that every child had his/her own bedroom and an unprecedented degree of personal privacy, as houses grew larger, on average, after WWII.

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, it's because of us gay types.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, I don't want to take all the credit...

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

really?

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

real reason american men wear towels in the sauna: to prevent dread testes to hot nail contact! (what the deal with europeons and testes to hot nail contact?)

Countersunk screws.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Why not, CP? I say to take whatever kudos you can while you can get away with it....

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You're gay??? [quickly covers self]

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Me as an American totally does the covering up when changing in front of other people thing, but It's not out of fear of being seen nude it's out of thinking that others may not want to see me nude.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting lack of Brits here: I'm not sure that we aren't closer to the Americans in this than to the Finns. I've been naked in front of men in changing rooms loads of times without it ever troubling me, and in front of several friends (male and female) for various reasons, all of which could have been avoided with no real trouble. Similarly, I've seen several friends naked in non-sexual circumstances and not had sexual thoughts about them.

And Dee, I've seen photos of you. I wish you didn't have such a low self-image - it really is not warranted at all.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

What I'm saying is I'm a result of the culture; the culture is not a result from me. I think many Americans are this way too.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post)

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Me as an American totally does the covering up when changing in front of other people thing, but It's not out of fear of being seen nude it's out of thinking that others may not want to see me nude.

Yeah totally. I just don't want to make the situation awkward. It gets tricky when I don't want to see someone ELSE naked because I don't want to feel awkward for them feeling awkward about me seeing them naked.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

It's probably that Americans try to avoid awkwardness much more then other cultures.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but why don't you want to see them naked?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought I explained that clearly.

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Basically, we're all scared of looking like pervs, whether it be by being nude (exhibitionism) or by looking at others who are nude (voyeurism)

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't be some hung up on nudity. We're not!

http://www.cenedella.com/images/album4.gif

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but why don't you want to see them naked? They're, like, NAKED! Dude, check it out. When will you get another chance to see them naked? If they feel awkward afterwards you can send them an e-card or something and they'll feel better.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Life is way better when you just assume everyone is a total pervdog.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Since, I mean, they are.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're in a lockerroom changing with a bunch of other guys and getting weird about being seen naked, that's weird.

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

last 3 posts otm

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

What happens when you're wrong, though, CP? Do you apologise or just slink out?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

When I'm wrong about what?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, these guys are the reason men keep their towels pulled so tightly around their loins in the sauna:

http://www.cenedella.com/images/album7.gif

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Y'all want me to get naked with y'all all up in that sauna? For real? You betta forget about that, sucka!

http://www.cenedella.com/images/album5.gif

Skottie, Tuesday, 4 November 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha the last two are great.

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

is everyone else's gym crowded with naked or nearly naked old men? cuz mine is

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

and it's WONDERFUL!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gym Friskiness With Blount?" That DVD just screams classic

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I deliberately got naked just to post to this thread.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I accidentally got naked

oops (Oops), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Whatever you do, do not attempt to press return with your scrotum. Ouch.

In all seriousness, surely the Brit/Yank parallel can be drawn from the fact that this thread has hundreds of replies already whereas my Naturism - classic or dud? thread got about thirty, and they were almost entirely Brits posting in an 'ooer matron' manner.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of that also had to do with the time of day it was posted.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(I suspect.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

And that some of us are a bit slow and didn't realize that Naturism is the same as Nudism.

JuliaA (j_bdules), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I thought it was some raw foodist mumbojumbo

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It isn't. Nudism is just being nude. Naturism is being nude and doing things. Like the laundry. Or playing tennis. *shivers*

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)


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