V For Vendetta: The Movie

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Do I even have to write what I was going to write? Probably not.

― My Psychic Friends Are Strangely Silent (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if I trust all the reviews that I've seen so far; I reread the comic this weekend and I think, yes, this could actually work, unlike From Hell and LOEG, which were both mishandled to fuck, but VFV DOES seem like Wachowski material; I think Natalie Portman is totally stupid and not hot at all, though, whether or not that is a problem I guess we'll see. This is a film I am more apprehensive about than stoked. Bonus points if they slip Bauhaus in the OST.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Major points redacted if the closing tune is performed by a reformed Rage Against the Machine, however.

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

uh, deducted I mean. Let me redact that last verb....

― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:59 (twenty years ago)

there's a lot of music ref'd in the comics (VU's "I'm Waiting for the Man", Wagner, Beethoven's Fifth, "Dancing in the Streets", etc. - I'll be surprised if any of those are actually used).

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm looking forward to this, but there's some dialogue in the book that makes me cringe in advance at the thought of it being in the movie. "Perhaps the term 'Tamla Motown' is familiar to you?" ARGH ARGH STOP IT

― pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:11 (twenty years ago)

ha, there's a cat power song in the movie.

― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:18 (twenty years ago)

So David J isn't in the film and Cat Power is. Great.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:21 (twenty years ago)

Music I recall is "Cry Me a River", a Cat Power song (don't freak--Portman's character listens to it!), 1812 Overture, "Street Fighting Man".

I can't imagine Moore complaining that it pulls any punches--if it were more explicit in its dusgust with both the USA and UK, it would be one endless libel suit.

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

I'm excited about this movie! I'm even thinking of going to the opening midnight show!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:22 (twenty years ago)

There are two amazing sequences--where Portman sees the story of the lesbian movie star and her internment and a sort of simultaneous backstory/epiphany where we literally see V being 'born' in flames and Portman being politically 'born' in a rainstorm overlooking the Thames.

Fuckin great stuff.

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:26 (twenty years ago)

The best is the last bit, but I'd be a real prick to even talk about that.

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

hmm, well those are the two key sequences in the book... yr kinda makin me curious about seeing it now...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

Also, a ref to the Stones' "Sympathy..."

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:31 (twenty years ago)

something tells me there's gunna be no shortage of lolz here:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434409/board/threads/

Some sample threads:

-Terrorists will like this movie

-Libertarian Party (Join the NEXT Revolution)

-Why would a conservative dislike this movie?

-THE VARIETY REVIEW SLAMMED THIS AS AWFUL

-Another Anti-American film

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

haha - yeah thats a great bit. "Please allow me to introduce myself", and then removes his hat for the horns...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

Kenan is a great dumbass on this thread.

I believe that was pointed out, like, a month ago. I feel appropriately dumbassy. But thanks for stopping by.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:37 (twenty years ago)

You know when you know this is gonna be great?

When two Christian/Fascist G-men try to rape Portman and V shows up and *baffles* them into submission with this high speed monologue mainly using words that start with "v" and then sorta bitchslaps em with his hard, highly shiny cane.

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:39 (twenty years ago)

Where did you see it?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:40 (twenty years ago)

thanks for posting all of those, Kingfish! Awesome!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

AND THERE IS NO SHAKY-CAM!!!

That's right--you read it here first folks--recent advances in bleeding edge modern technology have invented devices that allow for steady, fluid camera movements!

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:41 (twenty years ago)

hmm, now see that part of the screenplay scanned terribly when I read it. (in the book he just recites a bit of Macbeth)

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:42 (twenty years ago)

no need to thank me.

Thank the good folks at the IMDB boards, home to the most reactionary contrarianism by way of subliterate IGN types you'll find anywhere outside of certain ILM threads.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Weaving pulls it off seriously well. Partially, because you're so busy figuring out whose bad and who might be REALLY bad and so on that...well, it works. And Weaving is having hell's own high time doing it. (Shakespeare becomes a mini-motif later in the film.)

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:46 (twenty years ago)

we don't see his face, do we?

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

can govts sue for libel?

hugo weaving's voice has always been his trump card

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:48 (twenty years ago)

>>we don't see his face, do we?

heh

― Ian in Brooklyn, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:50 (twenty years ago)

It's actually Jaye Davison.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:51 (twenty years ago)

It's Jimmy Hoffa!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Amelia Earhart!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:55 (twenty years ago)

Richey Manic!

― Adamrl (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Lord Lucan!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:58 (twenty years ago)

Maris Crane!

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:01 (twenty years ago)

something tells me there's gunna be no shortage of lolz here:

Internet Rule 452. b

Any imdb message board ALWAYS has a great chance at bringing the funny business.

― Jingo, Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:42 (twenty years ago)

Is it just me or is does this sound a rip off of... zil_zen_il_vec 0 9 minutes ago
Seeing this move = supporting cinematic sewage phonograffiti 41 11 minutes ago
THIS MOVIE IS GONNA BE EFFIN GRAET! TheFUryofIMDB 0 14 minutes ago
1984 rip-off? mace-in-the-face 7 20 minutes ago

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

i got to see this tonight.

definite changes, but nothing severely drastic. i think where they did change things it just clarified or short-cutted certain things.

i enjoyed it. my expectations were low tho. and my movie tastes are probably weak. etc.

certainly political... but...

― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:52 (twenty years ago)

I'm really, really looking forward to this now... Can't remember when was the last time I was so excited about a comic adaptation, except maybe for the Corto Maltese animated feature. It's funny how the expectations for this movie have gone from pretty low to really high - how many people could have even suspected a year ago that the Wachowskis and some no-name director might actually pull this off?

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 13:59 (twenty years ago)

I'm stoked that msp sez no drastic changes.
I thought about it this morning and realized the whole Oedipal computer thing with The Leader is dross anyway and could be cut w/no significant impact to the story as I read it.
I am pretty excited to see how they do his origin flashbacks! I saw the brief clip in one of the new trailers of the bald faceless body of Romm Number 5 and it was like OH HELL YES.
Natalie Portman still in it though. Arrgh.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm more curious about how they handle the last third of the book - what with the multiple viewpoints and storylines about all the inter-departmental jockeying for power.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I think they'll probably use the framing device a la Bruce Almighty to pull that off.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

i really want to see this this weekend.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 17:41 (twenty years ago)

are you going to?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I'm more curious about how they handle the last third of the book - what with the multiple viewpoints and storylines about all the inter-departmental jockeying for power.

-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), March 14th, 2006 11:44 AM. (later) (link)

My bet is it's completely gone, creating the "massive plotholes" Moore's been complaining about--Rose Almond and Helen Heyer aren't in the cast.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:51 (twenty years ago)

tracer: perhaps, if i can find a date. do you want to be my date?

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 19:54 (twenty years ago)

okay, now i'm wondering if i over or understhot with "no drastic changes".

let me see if i can come closer with.... V doesn't turn into a unicorn at the end, but stuff does blow up.

don't let me overhype and ruin this for you.
m.

― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:13 (twenty years ago)

V doesn't turn into a unicorn at the end

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

― Dan (YOU'VE RUINED EVERYTHING) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, i can't WAIT for the FoxNews reviews of this. I can only hope it's as good as their take on Kanye West.

Drudge has started posted links to reviews:

Torygraph (who take pains to point out that Tony Blair's son helped work on the film)

Roeper's

and i can't wait for the endless lazy "_____ for ____" constructions.

Also, how exactly did they pull off the "Britain is fascist now" explanation in the flick? Did they go with the much safer "WWII was lost" type of thing(as Roeper mentions), or do they actually infer that the people brought it on themselves(as in the book)?

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Also, the RT and Metacritic reviews are far higher than one would have guessed for a flick delayed due to "reshoots"

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, here's the first Fox News mention. The writer likes the movie, but feels the need to point this out:

This isn’t to discount McTeigue’s participation. He was the second unit director on all the “Matrix” films and on one of the “Star Wars” sequels. Listening to him last night, he’s obviously a smart man. But “V” is just too complex. Let’s just say he had around-the-clock and up-the-wazoo assistance from the strange Wachowskis.

We all know just how strange they are: by now the world is well-versed in brother Larry’s bid to be a transgender, and about his relationship with a dominatrix. It’s “Transamerica” for real, except instead of Felicity Huffman playing the part, it’s the man who helped think up “The Matrix.”

I'm curious about the segment of Fox's audience who're both completely clueless on the TG part yet culturally savvy enough to get the Transamerica mention.

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Hoberman's review is kind of odd - I can't really tell what he finds objectionable about the movie, other than it's comic-bookey. http://www.villagevoice.com/film/0611,hoberman,72526,20.html

From what little I know of the comics (my brother just gave me the graphic novel collection, but I haven't read it), this doesn't sound right at all: "What's remarkable about the Wachowski scenario, as opposed to Moore's original, is the degree to which it stands Fawkes on his head—recuperating this proto–suicide bomber as a figure of revolt."

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 22:13 (twenty years ago)

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