Peep Show (now with added Mitchell & Webb Look)

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"meet you in chicken corner"

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

it's horses for courses. i've never seen/read harrry potter or 'lotr' so a lot of mainstream entertainment goes over my head.
-- Theorry Henry (miltonpinsk...), November 23rd, 2005 11:11 Am

Me too, I've never seen or read any of the Lord of the Rings stuff and don't even have any idea what the plot is. I've never seen The Sound of Music either. I suspect that my everyday life is full of unnoticed references to these things.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic tonight.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

Yes - that was brilliant.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

So, so good. An unbelievable improvement from last week's debacle. I laughed out loud 6 or 7 times, absolutely tremendous stuff. Johnson was superb too, good to see him again!

― Cracks (Crackity), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Really really classic.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

NO SPOILERZ PLEASE!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 25 November 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

Big Suze is apparently the daughter of

http://www.f4group.co.uk/images/eve_pollard.jpg

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 25 November 2005 23:53 (twenty years ago)

Is that a spoiler? It spoils something anyway.

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 25 November 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

I have seen two episodes, not the latest, the two before. I can see some quality but not as much as is alleged. It feels trendy to me. I'm not crazy about it. I'm not sure. I think it has some qualities, but is dislikeable. I like RJG's scorched earth campaign agin it, upthread.

― the bellefox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

The latest episode is better than the two preceding it.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 26 November 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Immeasurably better, especially compared to ep 2.

― Cracks (Crackity), Saturday, 26 November 2005 01:44 (twenty years ago)

yes, highly impressed by tonights episode.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

i think it would be much better if mark and jez were played by these people:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b118/sarahlibertine/ALEXDAMONOMGZZZZZZ.jpg

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 26 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Peepshow works best when it's not just focusing on Mark and Jez in a scene. Johnson and Super Hans are my faves.

― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 26 November 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Jez is getting more evil isn't he? "mustn't think too hard about what i'm actually doing..."

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

"It's not like I'm going to rape him. I could rape him... I'm not going to rape him."

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)

YES that was a really disturbing line

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

I agree with CharlieNo4. When I was a lad, I liked the fact that these members of Blur were, to my mind, attractive.

― the blurfox, Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)

I found that line funny, not disturbing. Oh dear.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)

I think I found it funny because I knew the "...I could rape him" bit was coming. I can relate to this sort of mental Tourette's Syndrome.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

NB. I don't want to rape anyone. I don't even think I could rape anyone. Even if I wanted to, which I don't. I don't even fantasise about raping anyone. Thanks.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

"...and anyone who says otherwise is lying" is the traditional end to such protests.

i found it disturbing AND funny. don't worry N. i laffed much more at this ep.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Everyone thinks things they shouldn't/don't even mean, what's funny about this show is that they generally go ahead and broadcast them...

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Saturday, 26 November 2005 12:55 (twenty years ago)

Yes. Good. It is Alan in his suit and tie who is disturbed for not having such thoughts.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

i missed ep 2. last night's was transcendently brilliant. "and now i'm standing here, tripping my nuts off, watching you do ... endless poos!"

the whole dynamic does appear to be changing, though: whereas it used to be about two very different but equally tragic people, mark now seems to be presented as a *slightly* more sympathetic character ... probably simply because jez is becoming alarmingly psychotic.

either way: glorious, glorious stuff. i should track down episode 2 somewhere, i suppose. or just wait for the DVD :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Saturday, 26 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

the flat where they live (although that seems to be different in this series)

It *is* different - this series is the first one where they've used a studio set for their flat, rather than shooting on location. Apparently, the people who actually lived there were getting a bit bored of it all.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

-We're going to smash through the doors of perception and see all the things that you don't normally see, cause-

-Cause they're not really there?

-No, they are really there but we don't normally see them cause we're distracted by all the-

-Things that are really there?

...marvellous

― Zora (Zora), Sunday, 27 November 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

I kiss you.

― Suedey (John Cei Douglas), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to know quite what the Pinefox means by its being 'trendy', exactly?

― Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 27 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it seems the opposite of trendy, really! i loved it. i loved last week's too.

― N_RQ, Monday, 28 November 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

Trendy (perhaps) = it's stuffed with sexual and drug references and "Why does it have to be so rude?"

I sort of know what he means. But I also don't.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

mm, certainly eps 2 and 3 fit this profile (although this last ep was very much 'the jeremy show'). but in ep 1 i almost thought they'd made mark too much of a fuck-up -- the whole sex-angst thing might've gone too far.

xpost

the show is obsessed with poo, it must be said.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Poop Show ?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

i think this episode really got brilliant when johnson showed up.

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Mike's 2nd paragraph could be spoken by Morrissey!

Perhaps he is right about what I meant. But also, the very fact that everyone on this thread likes the programme so much might also suggest that it is trendy. I don't mean that everyone on the thread is trendy, at least not as an insult.

I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant.

It feels also like a programme keen to be up to the minute somehow, or to express or represent a contemporary attitude or life.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

i'm not sure if that's a bad thing.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Le quote (pinefox sai): "I think it is something about the tone - so perhaps 'rudeness' in some sense, or more than one - 'nastiness' or 'brutality' among them - is indeed relevant."

But but but... if you summed this show up as 'rude', 'brutal' and 'nasty', you'd be way off course. Whilst I can't find anything specifically nice about it / the characters, there's something there that's warm and engaging. Perhaps you mean that the rude-brutal-nastiness is a contemporary veneer over a warm-heart-of-British-comedy core? Or have I misunderstood (it happen)?

― Zora (Zora), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

No, I don't see or feel any warm core, just a chill and sometimes witty wind.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

this hasnt been as funny as i thought it would be after episode 2, its seeming a bit more sinister and just plain cruel, esp in regard to jez. when johnson turned up last week though, that really was genius.

― okok, Monday, 28 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I've only been and off viewer of Peep Show since it started, but the two or three appearances of Johnson I've seen have all been hilarious. He's a great character.

Warm core. Hmm... no I think I see one either. I suppose, one could say that at its heart lies a kind of commiseration of self-loathing squalid souls. But that would be stretching the point a bit.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

I saw this by accident a year ago and never thought it would turn up again -- too loose-limbed and fast and personal and funny to ever end up as a regular series, but here we are. I like it. I think it's "trendy" insofar as it's using a lot of the same tricks as "Curb Your Enthusiasm," which was, or felt like, a very new kind of show. Main one being, when a main character has a decision to make, he or she will always make the worst one he or she is capable of at the time.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

I have heard the name of that programme, but never seen it.

Is it on, in Britain?

N. is probably right, in his last paragraph.

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

friday nights, pinefox, channel 4, 10pm; repeated on E4 at midnight on the following monday (ie tonight!).

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

What or who is it about?

― the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Two loser flatmates and their largely inconsequential (but fucked up, in a peculiarly pathetic way) escapades. When on form it really is as great as everyone here is saying.

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

He's asking about Curb Your Enthusiasm. It's about Larry David, the co-creator of Seinfeld, living his life in LA. He plays himself. He's neurotic and lost and grouchy.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

i think Curb' is pretty funny, I watched it only recently for the first time and I lol'd quite a lot. and Alba, ah ha that would explain the Seinfeld gags that I found peculiar

― Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

One formal diff between the two shows is that I doubt much, if any, of PS is improvised (CYE is famous for only the situation being agreed on in advance, rather than the words) which I think gives it a sharper performative bite. Both shows have a knack of thrusting enormous stakes onto their characters from out of nowhere.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. (xxpost)

― Cracks (Crackity), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

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