2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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What if he showed up like the guy on the right?

Eazy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

That would rule. But I fear that Hillary would counter by wearing a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader outfit. *shudder*

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

ever seen "blazing saddles"?

Eppy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

It's the first debate where Obama is in the lead, so it'll be interesting to observe how it'll affect the dynamic between them.

Simon H., Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

yea definitely. in any case, i imagine that status will make it a lot easier for obama to rise above the mudslinging, assuming he doesn't throw much back.

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

she: (cries a single fake tear)
(female half audience applauds, some put a fist in the air, others cry too)
he: (blows nose)
(both genders applaud)

he wins!

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

preview:

clinton: "I've been working hard to make sure our children have health-care while my opponent was busy drop-kicking a retarded babies into a swimming pool owned by tony rezko. as president, you have my word that i will submerge our children in various solutions. for america."

obama: "i've taken the liberty of bringing a stool sample with me tonight to prove once and for all the pleasant aroma of my excreta; some holistic practitioners claim it has healing properties."

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

ew.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

otm, somebody would have to fuck up pretty bad to sway the numbers at this point. Maybe by, say, letting fly a stream of crude and shocking epithets. That might change people's minds.

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

More like:

Clinton: "Rezko, shallow, words, character, experience. Negative."

Obama: "Issues, ideas, platform. Positive."

Eazy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

where do the candidates stand on the issue of lord custos parodies?

and what, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Analysis: "Well, this night will certainly go down in the history of debate. Who would have guess that Barack Obama would stoop to using the phrase 'cum dumpster'?"

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

kenan your posts in this thread are terrible

deej, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

if clinton goes very negative on him, i don't think obama's just gonna sit there and take it. he'll throw an elbow or two.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

dude kenan reign it in a little sheesh

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

No basketball analogies allowed with Obama. Leave that to Rove.

Eazy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Does anybody still (or did they ever) change their mind based on a televised debate? I can't recall one that didn't have two clear winners, depending on what channel you were watching.

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Does anybody still (or did they ever) change their mind based on a televised debate?

There's this Nixon/Kennedy thing you might have heard about.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

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Eazy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kica8hmSdAM

youcangoyourownway, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Does anybody still (or did they ever) change their mind based on a televised debate?

not since Lincoln and Douglas.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

my guess is that clinton will attack based on minor inconsistencies found in his record, obama will counter that she has distorted his record for political gain.

also, i would bet obama mentions his approx. 1 million individual donors at some point

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

There's this Nixon/Kennedy thing you might have heard about.

Yes, I have heard it mentioned. Didn't Nixon, like, show up drunk and forget to shave or something? That doesn't happen anymore.

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Is it time for desperate measures yet? Cleavage, leg?

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

The debates are never on my NPR station...

-- Eppy, Thursday, February 21, 2008 2:37 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

No, I mean NPR held a debate a couple months ago that wasn't televised and broadcast only on NPR.

jaymc, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

where do the candidates stand on the issue of lord custos parodies?

That is one instance in which I am very pro-death penalty.

Nicole, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Is it time for desperate measures yet? Cleavage, leg?

I don't think Obama will have to resort to that.

HI DERE, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

lol

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

SO DID JOHN MCCAIN HAVE AN AFFAIR WITH A LOBBYIST? DETAILS PLZ, THX.

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

deej goes negative on keenan!

Aimless, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

I really have to stop googling everything I think of - thank god it's fake (right?) :-(

http://www.chickchatradio.com/ee/images/uploads/hillary_clinton_boobs_bill_cleavage.jpg

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

america is not ready to elect a buxom president

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

hillary is ok though cuz her rack is kinda small

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

you guys aren't really helping to disprove the "anti-Hillary people are sexist" meme

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

true - I'm not voting though (a foreigner is I)

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

kenan your posts in this thread are terrible

-- deej, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:09 (37 minutes ago) Link

^this

gabbneb, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

That NYT "bombshell" on McCain is much ado about nothing. The affair is the story, and other than gossip/anxious fears by McCain's advisors, I see no evidence of it in the article. If the NYT has the goods, they should have disclosed them. If not, why publish the article?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

You mean you don't love stuff like "Who would have guess that Barack Obama would stoop to using the phrase 'cum dumpster'?" and "I fear that Hillary would counter by wearing a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader outfit. *shudder*"? xp

Nicole, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

they didn't want to get slapped with a libel charge? beats me.

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

and 'didnt nixon show up to the debate drunk and unshaven?'

and what, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

where would be we without kenan's well-informed opinions on political history

and what, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

ha, to think everyone thought the bombshell-in-waiting was about edwards.

gff, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

on a side note, NYT DOWNLOADS ON MCCAIN is one of the more nonsensical drudge headlines

dmr, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Article -> discussion/opinion/doubt = win
Correction -> too late, nevermind

(see that "Al Qaeda used female suicide bombers with Down syndrome!" -> worldwide headlines & shock. Anyone see the "they didn't have Down syndrome after all, says US army" article yesterday? Nope? Of course not, that's not headline news anymore.)

StanM, Thursday, 21 February 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's just like Drudge's story about John Kerry and his campaign staffer, except that it happened.

Eazy, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Nixon insisted on campaigning until just a few hours before the first debate started; he had not completely recovered from his hospital stay and thus looked haggard, sickly, underweight, and tired. He also refused makeup for the first debate, and as a result his beard stubble showed prominently on the era's black-and-white TV screens.

ok, not drunk. But not tanned, rested, and ready, either.

kenan, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

point to kenan

deej, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

not

deej, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

they didn't want to get slapped with a libel charge? beats me.

So don't run the story. Or do more investigative work before you run the story. Or defend yourself from a lawsuit based on McCain's status as a public figure, which normally makes defamation much harder to prove.


Here, the NYT says they stand by the story, and they waited to run it until they felt it was "ready," in a journalistic sense. But there's nothing to it. A few McCain staffers became worried that McCain was having an affair with a lobbyist he spent time with. That's . . . it?

Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

so is wolf blitzer moderating tonight?

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 21 February 2008 22:11 (eighteen years ago)


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