ongoing racist bullshit in arizona thread

unbelievable

its like terminator level dystopia

WTF is wrong with Arizona

People behind a new church in Phoenix are trying to stay ahead of any potential controversy or hate that accompanied the announcement of a proposed mosque near Ground Zero in New York City.

A new dome-like structure near 19th Avenue along Interstate 10 in Phoenix is the Light of the World church, a nondenominational Christian church hoping to modernize traditional worship services, a church spokesman said

Since the distinctive dome shape went up, church leaders said they have received phone calls from concerned neighbors who've mistaken the building for an Islamic mosque.

On Wednesday, church officials hung a sign reminding people they're Christian congregation. "We're trying to let people know that we're Christian and our churches are modern," said Uzieo Martinez.

They better be careful, pretty soon people will start thinking they're fundamentalists as well!

Whoa wtf at this:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130833741

and how did I not hear about it

Yeah, posted that before.

Scary.

u mosque, doggie?

so fed up with AZ. my (mexican) momz moved last year from phoenix up to prescott which is a pinch more lax (tho still the site of that stupid mural fiasco a few months back) and like of all the things for her to worry about its citizen papers in order?

also, everything else that gd state does wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh8GBl3Jnac&feature=player_embedded#!

http://colorlines.com/archives/2011/02/arizona_introduces_omnibus_immigration_bill.html

*foams from mouth*

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/22/arizona.double.killing/index.html?hpt=T2

It is difficult for me, as someone who is on balance more against the death penalty than for it due to the nature of our judicial system, to feel like this verdict was unwarranted.

That woman lived in my hometown and has a truly bizarre saga. http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20090222/NEWS01/702229930

props to that arizona jury.

no

sweet christ. that link, dan.

god what a heartbreaking little detail:

Posing as border patrol and law enforcement officers, Forde, Gaxiola and Bush, whom prosecutors identified as the gunman, showed up at the Flores home after midnight, several hours after the family had returned from a shopping trip in Tucson to buy shoes for their daughter for summer camp.

She sounds really crazy.

That said I'm still against the death penalty.

yeah jesus that is terrfying

I'm still not for the death penalty. LWP would be fine, though.

Well, as I said I am not for the death penalty either. This case is testing me.

life with electrodes applied sounds right

lol dan lots of people do lots of really horrible shit, shouldn't really affect your opinion on whether the death penalty is OK or not

it helps determine in individual circumstances imo

i mean i dont wanna turn this into a death penalty thread or whatever, but no not really

Once inside, the gunman shot Flores in the chest and Gonzales in the leg. Brisenia (a 9-year old girl who was sleeping on her couch with her puppy before the group banged on the door after midnight) was later shot as she pleaded for her life.

the paranthetical is mine. this case is testing my conflicted feelings for the death-penalty, too.

i don't either, but yes totally xp

Not rah rah death penalty either, but if it represents the strictest punishment available then I'm for that message being sent.

what is the opposite of splitting hairs because that's what you just did

using conditioner?

lol "sending a message" to deter crimes you really really don't like = you're for the death penalty

also to make really bad people die, don't forget

i am against the death penalty, in this instance.

the woman maintains her innocence (i think she does anyway, from earlier stories i've read) and that should be enough not to kill her, even though her guilt has been proven. it's always possible something has gone very wrong in prosecuting this crime. i don't think so, based on what i've read, but the possibility is always there.

as far as "sending a message", i wonder if keeping creepy shitbags like this alive forever is a better example than letting them be executed and forgotten. probably about even tbh (ie not much of an example either way...)

As someone who is extremely pro-death penalty, this verdict is comforting.

But fuck Arizona anyway for all that anti-immigration bullshit. That's so insane.

the woman maintains her innocence ........ and that should be enough not to kill her

kind of a handy condition, that?

yup

u dont gotta go to hell but you gotta get the fuck up out of here

but if it represents the strictest punishment available

LWP is worse in my opinion.

Agreed.

this will really send a message when she's finally executed in 2025

haha otm

death is life's greatest reward

i wonder if anyone even believes the deterrence argument anymore, its like, i think there's a big enough market for vengeance in this country that we can drop the facade and keep on rolling

well obviously millions of people do - as for ilx i sort of stopped being surprised at posters espousing right-wing positions after the last gun control clusterfuck

yeah, i'd guess the motivation for most capital-punishment supporters is revenge/justice, not deterrence.

ilx is too right wing or you kevin? !