Cate Blanchett to play Bob Dylan in an upcoming film.

'65 UK was his last acoustic tour, I think. "Subterranean" had just been released as a single, the album wasn't out yet.

-- Dr Morbius, Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:02 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

yes. tho maybe the album was out? i think they play a copy of it in dont look back but maybe it's a dubplate? the tour was in april-may. also although he played an electric guitar at newport in 1965, the 1966 UK tour was a lot... more electric.

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this has had great reviews and i would have expected a pretty large urban-area hit. as with mid-60s dylan, maybe it'll do better in the uk lol.

lot of my dylan-fan friends aren't going because they think todd haynes is up to something sneaky and they don't like the idea of it

my thoughts exactly!

I've talked to some people who found it quite boring. Someone told a story of going with his girlfriend - she fell asleep, so he woke her up and said, "If you're not watching it, can we leave?"

'65 UK was his last acoustic tour, I think. "Subterranean" had just been released as a single, the album wasn't out yet.

-- Dr Morbius, Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:02 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

yes. tho maybe the album was out? i think they play a copy of it in dont look back but maybe it's a dubplate? the tour was in april-may.

I thought DLB was released in '67 (I think I saw that copyright date on my DVD), so Pennebaker would have plenty of time to add the "Subterranean" video.

they shot the subterranean video in '65 in london, same time as the rest of the doc. that song was definitely out there, question is, was the album? i think it was.

9 Bob Dylan Subterranean Homesick Blues Single Apr 1965
1 Bob Dylan Bringing It All Back Home Album May 1965

So, yeah.

surprisingly, i liked this movie more than i thought, the Blanchett-fellini style part and charlot ginsbourg godard meets sirk parts are the genius,master picks of this great movie.
my friend was bored,though.

one of the great directing elements here, is the fact that dylan is, in lots of parts, alone on one side of the frame,while on the other side- bunch of people in line looking at him,amazed.he is always individual,always performong,even if he is not intending to.
the individual vs. society and the 60's cinema influences works great together.
and the focus mostly on the 60's years is crucial, thinking about that period as the crisis bridge in america between conservative society suddenly embracing individualism .
the crisis that goes on till present i guess.

girls dressed as boys can be a cool aesthetic, less of a cliche than the other way around.

this film looks like a load of record collectin' mojo readin' bollox to me tho.

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btw, it appears that this is the last night that this is playing on a screen larger than the Film Forum's in NYC -- and it needs to be seen big -- ao I'm headed for Loews 19th St for a second viewing.

Y'know I didn't want to overpraise this movie just because so many boneheaded people find it incredibly demanding (and it's just not that demanding unless your only yardstick is "Air Bud", I mean people who can handle "Last Year At Marienbad" are not going to break a sweat here) . . . but I do need to say in this movie's defense that, even though it's a mess, it stays with you for a long time afterwards. I felt it really lingered in the mind; it's not *just* bricolage, there's a real emotional impact that it transmits, and Blanchett's performance is the reason.

is is a mess, but in a good way.
like fellini and godard were "mess" in the 60's.
the best parts of the films are tributes to those directors style.
in this case the good thing is also the bad : imitation.a great one though ,but still .

Drew is right, there is, perhaps ironically, some real emotion communicated. I even found the last shot strangely moving. there's a nice balancing act between the bricolage and semiotic play and the real honest to goodness attempts at meaning. (as if the process of signification could accomplish anything else!)

Irony and emotion don't always cancel each other out.

I forgot how funny this was, probably more LOLs than anything this year except The Simpsons Movie (like the Brian Jones "cover band" line.)

The only part that seems most like a "mess" (which I wouldn't often use to describe Fellini, and probably never Godard -- even his bad films seem rigorous) is still Gere/Billy, but I even liked that more this time.

Also think there was a 2001 HAL 9000-lip-reading ref at the start.

the Brian Jones cover band line was LOL

what i meant is that they were/are "mess" only to the untamed eyes

Just watched it. Ya know, the Gere parts really reminded me of a Burton film (like Big Fish, maybe) and maybe they are both going back to something else. The movie star Dylan (was that Heath?) was the only personification of Dylan that seemed inconsistent with my beliefs about Dylan (which isn't to say it was less 'authentic,' just that is was more shocking to me). Loved Blanchett, loved Bale.

Jesus it's really long though. I had to watch it in two sittings (with few minute breaks throughout), else I probably wouldn't be able to make it through the whole thing. Oh, and I hated the Charlotte Ginsburg character (is that her real accent?).

(My complaint about the length isn't too say it's too much - just to say it's very, very demanding. At least, was to me.)

really zoomed by for me. Southland Tales, THAT was long.

C.G. is French, yes (not to mention the daughter of a movie star and pop star).

The movie star Dylan (was that Heath?) was the only personification of Dylan that seemed inconsistent with my beliefs about Dylan

You mean his being 'a bad husband'? It seems to be the scholarly consensus.

That's such a strange thing, Mordechai. The Ledger section matches what we know about Dylan's breadbaking years in Woodstock.

I didn't mean the facts so much as the feeling of it. He didn't "seem" like any Dylan I was familiar with.

I would put that down to it being the "private"/assholish Dylan

film o' the year

Err, yeah. No question (much as I loved Into The Wild). I had no idea it was going to be that good. I had no idea a film *could* be that good, technically, at least. But it wasn't just the technique. Wow, I am still reeling.

Also, are there any Fellini or Godard films that are actually as good as Haynes's homage here? I think I might have to reinvestigate. I am excited!

the masculin-feminin ref a++

Would anyone help to seed the torrent of an Eat The Document DVD from here?

the 2+ gig one?

fuck it, i'm in.

Yeah, there were about 3 seeds and I've got about 10% of it, but it's down to one at the moment.

my connection is slow right now but i'm on it.

Ta, I didn't think it had ever been released on DVD, so maybe this is actually no better quality than the vcd version I'm also dling, but it's worth a go.

it's never had an official release nah.

Humph. It all downloaded but I'm damned if I can make it work.

uh yeah it's been looking all wrong, numbers not adding up and stuff. fuck it. a lot of it was used in the scorsese thing right?

I think Scorsese used a lot of the ETD-era Pennebaker footage, but I'm not sure how much of it was actually from ETD.

Oh well, it's on youtube in pieces, but the bootleg DVD looks great

Finally saw this. Pretty good, but could have used a dash of Brother Bru-Bru's Hot Sauce.

two-disc edition in stores today.

DVD waiting for me at liberry. Anyone seen the extras?

No, but that sounds like a very good idea indeed.

The prosthetics in the deleted Cate/Dylan nude scene deserve an award of their own.

o_0

I could've sworn Ryan Schreiber was in the Newport Folk Festival scene.

man what a dope movie

i need some kind of annotated companion cause i know im missing like 90% of the inside baseball

I wd bet I missed 60% of it, and it don't much matter

(u might wanna google Ann Powers + INT if nec, max)

I don't really know much about Dylan, most of the songs in this I was hearing for the first time, but I had read the autobiography at least and it was interesting to see how things I knew about him got translated into these other characters.

This movie is amazing by the way, I loved how it deconstructs the Rock biopic, which is always about this layering of times, which is always in love with eras and costumes and a mangled nostalgia and sort of made that analogous to the Dylan who constructs the present from a past that telescopes further and further into the past, It's just obsessed with that overlap montage and flashback that makes up the crescendos of these movies and makes a whole movie that surfs along on this. It finds its own poetry of pastiche too, the Christian Bale bits aren't really funny the way they seem to be, they're stranger and reminded me a lot of Superstar. In face out of any director Haynes' remakes camp as something more personal and moving, all that jumbled gibberish that the Moore/Baez character spouts (perfect casting, so perfect) isn't really ridiculous.

Sorry, I just watched it.

In face out of any director Haynes' remakes camp as something more personal and moving, all that jumbled gibberish that the Moore/Baez character spouts (perfect casting, so perfect) isn't really ridiculous.

I'm not sure what this means, but I'd like to know.

The only reason Far From Heaven isn't horrible is because its so serious about camp. It neither turns the campier elements of Sirk into a bawdy spoof or strips it away, instead its always a slipping mask. Its also interesting to me that these both have Julianne Moore, because I think Haynes and Moore definitely bring out the best in each other, she has this strange timbre to her voice and a tendency to be a bit Meryl Streep, but with Haynes she's lacerating, so controlled that quivering tone is laughing/crying.

The bio-doc trappings are all played up, the set-ups, that daft photo of Moore doing Baez, the weirdly portentous "he was a genius" crap, but there's something really harrowing about it, not in spite or because of the set up, but both. Like I think the whole movie collides these fragmented elements in the hope that something will make sense in the cracks and overlaps. Like when Richard Gere finds the guitar case.