Lindsay Lohan: "Hot, Ready, and Legal!"

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Let's just say that praising women's bodies for being small and scant and hard is probably not a good way to start out. It's kind of like saying she's desirable because there's SO LITTLE of her to start with! "Hardly takes up any room in the storage closet and eats almost no groceries. The apartment-dweller's ideal."

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

"big doughy body"

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

"good for fuck... and storage!"

jhøshea, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

"that woman looks terrible"
"yes, and such small portions..."

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel - exactly.

ENBB, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Image results for "big doughy":
http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/london/panto-sarah.jpg
http://www.weeklydish.com/wp-includes/images/truffletower.jpg

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Haha.

I'm not sure the attraction to smallness or litheness has anything to do with desiring a woman to be invisible or hassle-free or anything like that, though. I think it's just a common sexual aesthetic created and propagated by images in the media.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

it might be just cause its hawt tho

jhøshea, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

2000 more posts by morning

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

surmounter is so rong on this thread.

Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

It's pretty disgusting. I think mainly because, like Roxy said, only complete assholes would actually use that phrase in speech.

Good Christ, people. Everybody relax and just admit that SJP could use (a) a few pounds and (b) a nose job.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not saying this as some kind of pro-fat thing nor am I criticizing liking "little" women...whether little means short or petite or thin or whatever! But the gestalt idea that a woman is better if there's less of her in all directions kind of denies her the right to a physical self. It's...probably just better to avoid phrasing things that way.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

xp give me those almond truffles right now.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Also, this is what I look like, day in and day out

http://scienceblogs.com/seed/upload/2007/01/frat_boy.jpg

DAMN! Check out that TIGHT LITTLE BODY!!! BUTTER FACE!!!

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

This is true. He was like that at the bar.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4wh_mc8hRE

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not saying this as some kind of pro-fat thing nor am I criticizing liking "little" women...whether little means short or petite or thin or whatever! But the gestalt idea that a woman is better if there's less of her in all directions kind of denies her the right to a physical self. It's...probably just better to avoid phrasing things that way.

Laurel, you and I could not agree more. The day that I actually use the phrse "tight little body" and mean it will be the day that my wife smacks me in the back of the head with her Smith College diploma.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Oh good. :)

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

ts: tight little body vs. loose booty

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I am very very earnest despite my best efforts to develop a thick scale of jaded ennui.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

so we can't praise women for being small but we can hound them for having a big nose?

Surmounter, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

so we can't praise women for being small but we can hound them for having a big nose?

Absolutely. The large nose means that they must be at least part Jewish.

a woman is better if there's less of her in all directions

Also - this idea is perpetuated by people whose ideas of attractive never moved past middle school.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

Well, not that I said anything about her nose, but...one is actually misogynistic, the other is just mean. I'm pretty okay with mean.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

Everybody relax and just admit that SJP could use (a) a few pounds and (b) a nose job.

ha well so could i

gff, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

xp to BLAM, you know what they say about high school girls: no matter how old you get, they always stay exactly the same age.

Laurel, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

Chloe S. is a more successful version of the SJP look.

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

loosey goosey

Jordan, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

"damn what're we even allowed to say anymore, jeez"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I am very very earnest despite my best efforts to develop a thick scale of jaded ennui.

Oh my fuck, WHY!?!?!?!

I'm not advocating masochism, but actively trying to develop a hide to protect you from life's annoying-yet-amusing little slights misses the point. Old people are so much fun to talk to b/c they've lived.

And that's really what I want to say to LiLo - Live! Stop fake tanning and redoing what's already been done. Get the fuck out there and live!

And don't ever hide the freckles. EVER.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

uhm but chloe is a giantess aryan blonde who looks nothing like sjp?

bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

But she's got a bit of a schnoz. I don't mind the schnoz.

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

i mean i picture sjp being 5 feet tall and chloe is more like 6

bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

They might have the same stylist.

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

i like a tight little schnoz

carne asada, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.cyberium.net/bnguy/bnfaq.htm

max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Is Chloe that tall? I never realized that while watching Big Love, but I guess she hunches a bunch in that show, now that I realize it.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

Q. A fetish? I've never even heard of a big nose fetish. What's so special about noses?

A. The nose is directly in the center of the face and is one of the features that comes to identify who a person is. If you don't believe me, then look at this picture of Marisa Tomei, suitably morphed to have a larger nose. It doesn't really look like her any more does it? For one with a nose fetish, the nose takes on an even more important role in defining and enhancing the beauty of its owner. Our fetish may be unusual, but it is not all that different in concept from many other "body enhancement" fetishes. Many friends of ours are interested in multiple breasts, extremely large breasts, in the concept of body inflation and a host of other interests. Check out the links for more information.

max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.cyberium.net/bnguy/week/marbe.jpg

max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51S5M51T6PL._AA240_.jpg

Eazy, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

OK I've always been into women with a prominent schnoz but that page is weird.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

a woman is better if there's less of her in all directions

This reading still kind of bothers me, though. I agree that there's something pernicious about the preference for "tight little bodies" (and not just in the phrasing), but I feel like you're trying to turn it into a metaphor for the amount of respect men have for women, whereby preferring smallness suggests that men would rather women not be there at all. Which just seems like way too much of a leap to me. If you do want to psychoanalyze it, it makes more sense to say that a preference for smallness may indicate a desire to dominate, but I don't think that this is the same thing as negating the woman altogether, nor even disrespecting her.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Or not necessarily the same thing. In plenty of instances, it probably is.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

its not negating the woman altogether, its reducing her size to the level of objecthood

max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

jay, OTM.

It could also be, as I figured out from a few of my friends who seem to have an inability to date any woman over 5'2"/115lbs. - They want someone that they can feel like they are protecting. From what? Who the fuck knows? They just want to feel like they're needed, because, without their big, strong protector of a man, those little girls are gonna get killed, raped, beat up, taken advantage of, etc.

Kind of a really, really wierd daddy thing.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

kind of a pedo thing, sounds like

bell_labs, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I hope my punctuation improves over the course of the next week - if I use commas and hyphens that loosely in the bar exam, I am fucked!

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

that hannah montana has a tight little body

max, Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

kind of a pedo thing, sounds like

Yeah, maybe, but without any of the inherent taboos that pedo has with it. With THOSE guys, a huge part of the turn-on is that this is pretty much verboten by any societal norms today. Whereas these doll-daters really just want this perfect, little woman replicant that they can worship/protect.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

that hannah montana has a tight little body

Despite hating his songs, I would not want to fight Billy Ray over this - he's got some guns.

B.L.A.M., Wednesday, 20 February 2008 18:50 (eighteen years ago)


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