ok lets all shit our pants to something new: post 2005 horror film thread

never saw an uli lommel film (other than his Richard Hell movie years before his recent horror run). They came out like clockwork back when I worked at a video store. what exactly are they like?

a giant fuck you btw to imdb, which now makes me click twice on Lommel's page to actually get to a link to Blank Generation. ("Yes, I want to see what he directed...yes, I want to see EVERYTHING's he's directed...")

the big problem with lommel is his churning out of like 5 serial killer movies a year direct to video, esp since they seem to have an oddly sympathetic bent a lot of the time (although never in a way that might be interesting).

also, my favorite wikipedia plot summary EVER for the film "Daniel-Der Zauberer" which should give you some great insight into his craft:

Plot
The successful singer Daniel Küblböck is "loved by millions, hated by many" (as the subtitle says). The teenagers Rike and Tom decide to kill Daniel. They are morally but not directly supported by Baltazar. Whereas Daniel gets support from his dead grandfather Johnny who mostly carries a baritone horn and a wand on his person, has sometimes just one arm and wears a cap under his top hat.

The first attempt on Daniel's life fails, because the teenagers are discovered and scared away by Daniel's vocal coach. Daniel shall take part in a screen test for Hollywood. Meanwhile Johnny and Baltazar talk with each other. Suddenly Baltazar changes Johnny into a cockroach. He assumes human shape again as he says the words: "I’m a celebrity, get me out of here!"

Later the girl Petra visits Daniel. She is a fan of Daniel and wrote him a letter before. Petra works at the café of her grandfather (Grandpa Winter) in Daniel's hometown Eggenfelden. Grandpa Winter can't stand Daniel's music and the guests of his café agree with him. Daniel samples some tortes with his finger, buys them and gives Petra two cost-free tickets for his last concert of this year that takes place in Passau.

Rike and Tom plan to shoot Daniel on the stage at this concert. But instead Rike just kidnaps Daniel and brings him to her house. Soon after that Tom arrives. Beforehand Baltazar encouraged Tom to kill Daniel once more. Tom and Rike want to film Daniel's execution, in order to become superstars themselves. When Daniel is alone in the room, his grandfather appears and emboldens Daniel to take the hardest test. Afterwards Rike and Tom don't bring off Daniel's murder. Instead of it they talk about their unhappy childhoods. Tom confesses that Daniel's latest hit song isn't bad in his opinion. Rike goes away and Tom makes a deal with Daniel. He releases Daniel and in return Daniel doesn't report the kidnap. Finally, Daniel returns to his concert. Grandpa Winter who is a concert attendee becomes convinced of Daniel and after it, he's a fan of him who behaves like a teenager.

Johnny appears again in the evening. As Daniel asked for his Christmas gift, Johnny says to him that he forgot Rike and Tom and that he shall give them his new guitar. At first, Daniel disagrees with him, but then he does it anyway, whereupon the three of them become best friends.

After all, Daniel finds a wand under the Christmas tree, with the note: "By the One-Armed". Daniel's grandma tells that her husband had just one arm. He was a musician at the Oktoberfest. She shows a picture of him and Daniel says that he appeared several times to him. His grandma says that Daniel is only allowed to use the wand in order to help people.

Johnny and Baltazar meet again. Baltazar says to him that Johnny won the fight, but the war isn't over yet and the new wizard doesn't know how to use the wand rightly.

B&D is cute. Low-key existential Canadian vampire tragicomedy, with Cronenberg as a mob boss.

Have I posted my pro-Lommel rant here yet? Can't keep track. Let's not forget that this guy was one of Fassbinder's most talented acolytes, made the brilliant 'Tenderness of Wolves' and some very interesting, very European-styled American thrillers (Brainwaves, The Devonsville Terror, Olivia, Cocaine Cowboys). His one Stateside hit, 1980's The Boogeyman, brought him into the good graces of Hollywood - whose advances he spurned with the film's sequel, as poisonous a Lala Land mash note as 'Sunset Boulevard'. sometime later, he realized that art is shit, money pays bills, and that direct-to-video serial killers and unwanted sequels can be churned out to the tune of a tidy profit. He's laughing all the way to the bank.I keep hoping that he'll pull a Boll and get around to making decent films again. He's got It in him.

976-EVIL 2 is one of Jim Wynorski's better films. So much better than Englund's crappy original, it's not even the same area code. Watch the NOTLD/It's a Wonderful Life mash-up sequence and just try not to grin.

wow at that wiki plot

New on netflix instant today:

Ghoulies II (1987)
Land of the Minotaur (1976 - Donald Pleasence and Peter Cushing!)
Return of the Living Dead 3 (1993)
Stigmata (1999)

oh Stigmata is really fucking stupid

and when the dude who unironically enjoyed "Ultraviolet" is calling out a movie as stupid, that movie must be PHENOMENALLY stupid

not like I have any business calling anybody out for posting off topic (pot, kettle etc), but forks have you noticed the thread title

the "post 2005" part is that they're available for instant watching now
besides it's not like we need two active horror movie watching threads
conversation starting is a delicate art

plus i'm looking for recommendations/warnings

bonus TMI: the poster/ads for ghoulies made me terrified of toilets for several months when i was nine.

Bonus BONUS NTMI: Ghoulies was Mariska Hartigay's first film

I check this thread to find out what's happening with recent horror films, not to discuss the relative merits of the ghoulies franchise

vampyr from 1932 is streaming on netflix too, but I'd go to the streaming netflix thread if I wanted to talk about it

heed the warning about stigmata it is an unredeemable piece of shit. fucking hate that movie.

I think the only Gabriel Byrne movie I've seen that wasn't terrible was The Usual Suspects.

wait did I see Miller's Crossing? I can't remember now

if you dont like millers crossing i will be so so sad..

excalibur dude

I know I never saw Excalibur!

jjj Miller's Crossing was the movie you were raving about to Kyl3 and me in high school that you called a "stylized gangster movie" that led to 10 minutes of Kyl3 and me gangster-voguing, right? I don't think I ever saw it.

do you know if the ROTLD3 and 'Land of the Minotaur' on Netflix are the uncut versions? the R1 DVDs for both are severely edited. it makes a huge difference. the only reasons to watch LOTM are for Eno's score and for the exploding cultists during the climax. you will hear the former, but not see the latter, if this is the same print that BCI released as part of their 'Exploitation Cinema' double feature (with Norman J. Warren's sweet 'Suspiria' homage, 'Terror').

and the 'R'-rated ROTLD3 is just an insult to Screaming Mad George's insane FX. love this movie!

there's some crap in netflix's streaming options. from beyond, for instance, is the R-rated cut.

'Stigmata' is srsly THE WORST. Rupert Wainwright was on an episode of Bravo's 'The Millionaire Matchmaker,' and he was every bit the insufferable prick you'd imagine. and then some.

Netflix's 'Suspiria' is the US theatrical cut. plus: the puffy/throbbing title lettering. minus: much of the glorious gore. unforgivable!

to bring it back around to the new... i'm not a Toetag Pictures fan - to say i hate everything they stand for would be an understatement - but Fred Vogel's latest, 'Sella Turcica', looks promising. it also looks like a straight-up Iraq-era 'Deathdream,' though i have it on authority that it goes somewhere else by the end. guess it'll cost me $20 to find out where. may wait for a used copy to show up. nice to see Camille Keaton out of retirement!

what are yr thoughts on wicked pixel

haven't seen 'Deadwood Park' yet, so i can only judge Stanze based on 'Savage Harvest' (guilty fun), 'Scrapbook' (meh. could have been something with a better male lead), 'Ice from the Sun' (WTFWT?!) and 'China White Serpentine' (whatta downer, man. no thanks). i like that Eric's ambitious, and that he knows how to focus a camera and frame a shot. sometimes both at the same time. but i've yet to be really impressed by anything WP has turned out. have i missed a good 'un?

I actually have not dived into his stuff yet at all, just seemed like he was doing some promising stuff in the late 90s / early 00s and was wondering what the deal was

when I was in st louis earlier this year I found out the local free weekly is a suicide girls type thing, and he takes a lot of the photos for it

as budding auteurs go, my eyes are on Paul Solet ('Grace'), Dylan Bank ('Nightmare'), Graham Reznick ('I Can See You') and Travis Betz (if he can outgrow his Joss Whedon fixation). how about you?

that does not surprise me. you might want to try 'Savage Harvest'. it's a no-budget 'Evil Dead' clone. impressive FX jostle for attention with some of the most awkward expository dialog ever penned. like i said, guilty fun. a painless way to spend an hour and change. ideal Halloween fare.

not to be too UScentric about it. v. curious to see what Tom Shankland ('The Children') does next, too. and what Steven Sheil ('Mum & Dad'), Júlíus Kemp ('Harpoon: Reykjavik Whale Watching Massacre'), and Lawrence Gough ('Salvage') can do with more original material.

I dunno, it seems like a lot of people are capable of making 1 or 2 good films here and there but I'd hesitate to grace anybody with an auteur crown. I think I mentioned nightmare upthread? haven't gotten around to seeing that one.

kinda wanna see what devereaux pulls out of his hat next, and if laugier can follow up martyrs in any meaningful way. his new movie stars jessica biel so already I'm wondering.

wondering/doubting

oh! and Patrick Roddy ('Mercy' (2006) - a really interesting debut).

maybe it's morbid, but i have Laugier following the makeup man's lead and offing himself rather than attempting to follow up 'Martyrs'.

yeah, forgot Devereaux, maybe because he already has a few (early) strikes against him.

casting jessica biel in yr movie seems like a special kind of offing yrself

i like JB, but i agree.

if i didn't recommend 'Nightmare' here, i meant to. thought Blank pulled off the snuff metafilm gimmick so much more effectively than any other contender. and he demonstrated a refreshingly adult attitude towards sexuality.

er, Bank. forfend i should confuse him with Aussie hack Jamie Blanks, yet i do so constantly.

so i suppose its too late for Lucky McKee to have any auteur left in him huh?

Also yeah I would love to see what Shankland does next, "the children" was a jaw dropper.

ha, I was gonna mention mckee. he's filming a new horror film in the state adjacent to mine with angela bettis, so maybe there's hope for him yet.

still have hope for mckee

Ive liked everything hes done so far so i am still in his camp for sure. even RED which shows the cracks of a aborted production is really quite a movie imo (and I blame the less great parts on the fixer that they brought in 100%)

ok to be fair, Sick Girl was not all that great, but in comparison to the other stuff in that series its still in the top 10%.

ok just watched Blood Creek and uh wow it was just awful. like one of the worst most nonsensical horror scripts ive seen in a while, and let me tell you, thats saying something.

"the children" was a jaw dropper.

I'd add James Watkins (Eden Lake) and Sean Byrne (The Loved Ones).

watkins did descent 2 after eden lake, is he ready for auteur status

going to see Paranormal Activity 2 today. excited as I loved the first. deliberately chose a time that I think the theatre will be least populated to reduce the possibility of other people ruining it for me.

You know, it's easy to be cynical, but "Paranormal Activity" (the first) was really fucking scary. Every once and a while it just pops in my head, and then I'm freaked out when it's time to turn out the lights at the end of the night.

I agree. I actually had trouble sleeping that night, and I can count the number of movies that have done that to me on less than two hands!

watched Teeth last night, and maybe im just on a bad run here, but it did very little for me.

yeah ditto on paranormal. the "pulled out of bed" sequence is real effective and the enemy that could be the furnace coughing hits a lil' too close to home.