The Wine Thread -- what have you been drinking?

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what does leathery mean in this context?

youn, Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

apparently something called ernest and julio twin valley wineyards hearty burgundy. it tastes like cherries mixed w/ buttah.

John (jdahlem), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, it tastes like old leather smells--er, but in a good way.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, that's interesting to transfer smell to taste. thanks!

youn, Sunday, 16 January 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

missing comma. also, pepper?

youn, Monday, 17 January 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Currently drinking a rose rioja. Smells and tastes vaguely cheesy (in a good way) beneath the grapes. Not as good as the tempranillo/garnacha I last drank (but few things are).

j.lu (j.lu), Monday, 17 January 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, it tastes like old leather smells--er, but in a good way.

hahahaha

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

just leave it out on the table, teeny.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I just had a Rosemount Estate (Aussie) Riesling that knocked my fucking socks off, and it was around $10 a bottle.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 17 January 2005 04:14 (twenty-one years ago)

rocked my sucking focks off

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Chateau Pech-Latt 2003, Organic Corbieres.

A really interesting and cheap red. Not as ascerbically dry as most Corbieres, probably from being a blend of no less than five grape varieties; Carignan, Grenache Noir, Cinsault, Syrah and Mouvèrde. I wouldn't think it would work so well, but there's a richness with some high dry notes that works very nicely. Next time I am in the area I shall visit the chateau.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 5 February 2005 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

John OTM upthread about the Gallo Twin Oaks Burgundy. A surprisingly decent table wine, much better than Turning Leaf, Fetzer, Beringer in that price range.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 7 February 2005 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
http://www.saintsbury.com/images/pinotCarneros_20.gif

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.shopping.com/xPF-Louis_Jadot_Beaujolais_Villages_2003

Louis Jadot Beaujolais Villages. This one is my favourite wine of all. Has been for awhile now. I've tried several other Beaujolais, too and it just isn't the same. Luckily this isn't the "nouveau" variety so you can get it year round, and it tastes much better than the nouveau stuff. It's about $8-13.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.wine-lovers-page.com/graphics/jado0914.jpg

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 06:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I was at a trade fair at the G-mex last week and tried a few absolute corkers whilst I was there. The Gosset Grand Rose champagne was a fairly ethereal experience, toasty, old fashioned and elegant. Showed Cristal and Laurent Perrier up for the dull footballer's favourites that they are.

It was also good to note that after a few years of believing their own hype and producing over-fruited over tannic monsters the McLaren Vale is producing some good, balanced and juicy shirazes, I was starting to despair.

Still couldn't find a Pinot Grigio that made me do anything other than yawn, though. Oh well. If anyone comes across a decent one, do let me know.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

updates needed. names. dates.

youn, Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Domaine Boudau, Cotes de Roussillon, Le Clos.

An absolutely delightful wine, much more rounded than many others of the area. Delightfully drinkable.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 1 May 2005 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Melville: Pinot Noir
an assortment of excellent NZ Sauv Blancs

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 30 June 2005 03:53 (twenty years ago)

wait a second, this "you must decant" thing, what does this mean?

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

You should, if you're rolling with style, decant most red wines, or at least bigger, younger ones (Cabs, Barolos, Barbarescos, etc.).

If it's young, def decant for (if you're serious) an hour or so.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

It helps in the removal of sediment from older bottles from the cellar or can help young wines breath.
If your 'cellar' is the bottom shelf in the fridge, chances are it's young and will just looks better in the decanter anyways so why the hell not.

Currently lined up for the slaughter: Whites, whites and more whites:
2003 Rieslings from Reif and Flat Rock Estates.
2001 Gewurztraminer from Vineland (soon as I can make up some yummy indian food in this bloody heat).
2004 'Twisted' from Flat Rock, a white wine blend involving chardonay, riesling and gewurtaminer but more importantly tastes good in 40 degree humidex.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 30 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

"Why the hell not": because I have no place to put something like that right now :( At any rate vis a vis young wines can't you just leave them open for a little bit and have the same effect? I know that's not going to help older ones but I always figured it was ok, not a necessity to decant as long as you let younger stuff breathe for a little bit. Not that we ever actually end up doing that for more than like 5 minutes but whatever.

Also I have a bottle of red from the '70s, is this still going to be drinkable or is it more than likely godawful by this point? I don't think it was kept in the most ideal of conditions, ie it was my grandfather's.

Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Also I have a bottle of red from the '70s, is this still going to be drinkable or is it more than likely godawful by this point? I don't think it was kept in the most ideal of conditions, ie it was my grandfather's.

...only if it's a really good, strong red (Cab etc.). If it didn't have a lot of tannin going in, it probably won't have kept. That being said: holding on to it longer will probably only make it worse, so... Nothing venture, nothing gained.

Dry Riesling = yummy.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Look at the cork, Ally.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 30 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

That is a funny sentence; I'm not sure why.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

'Cause I'm only funny when I least intend to be, probably. What's up, Spencer?

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

two words... Carlo Rossi.
four more words... comes in a jug.
three final words... and is awesome.

matlewis, Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

St. Joseph Cave de Chante-Perdrix, 2003

Château Routas Rosé, 2005

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

The Carlo Rossi Wine Game:

  • Get one (1) jug of Carlo Rossi Paisano.

  • Get a handful of friends (5 < x < 12). More players will require an additional jug.

  • Go to the woods, start a bonfire, sit around it (optional).

  • Take turns passing the jug. When it is your turn, hook the small loop of the jug with your middle finger and your thumb. Flip the jug so that it rests along the length of the pinky-side of your forearm.

  • Raise your elbow and, in so doing, the jug to your lips.

  • Drink.

  • Keep drinking...

  • If the water-line is approaching the upper- or lower-edge of the label, everyone assembled should start chanting "To the label! To the label!!"

  • Pass to the next player.

  • Make out with someone. Or, failing that, barf in the woods and pass out.

  • giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

    that sounds so unbelievably fun. MY carlo rossi game is getting one (1) jug of Carlo Rossi Paisano, bringing it over to a friend's house and shrugging when they say, "you brought wine.. in a jug?"

    matlewis, Thursday, 30 June 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

    Take turns passing the jug. When it is your turn, hook the small loop of the jug with your middle finger and your thumb. Flip the jug so that it rests along the length of the pinky-side of your forearm.

    For those keeping score: this move is called the Texas Sidepull.

    giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 3 July 2005 01:38 (twenty years ago)

    I've been drinking the sharp apple-y goodness that is the relatively cheap Zenato Pinot Grigio.

    They recently had an insane sale on McMannis Cab for $5.99/bottle, so we got a case of that. I've had a bit of that lately.

    But I gotta say, I'm so constrained on the law school budget that this week I decided that I'd try for the first time one of the so-called "premium box" wines-- 3 litres, the typical range is $15 to $24 per. I bought toward the middle of the range-- Black Box Cabernet. Not terrible, but not very good. Thin, rather acid/sharp, no finish to speak of. On the other hand, it's not plain sour. Just sort of tolerable. I will probably try some of the Aussie Shiraz next. If anyone's got recommendations for this sort of table wine, I'm listening.

    Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 3 July 2005 02:07 (twenty years ago)

    at this sort of clearinghouse for abandoned storagespace store in brooklyn, they got a whole case of 1985 Dom Perignon!!!!!! but since they cant sell booze, all the employees took them home and this guy drank a bottle at band practice. i heard.

    phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 3 July 2005 02:11 (twenty years ago)

    one month passes...
    2004 Viña Sila Naia, Rueda, Blanco
    Price: $9.99

    88 points from Robert Parker! He says, "Even better is the 2004 Naia, a tank-fermented and aged Verdejo offering loads of honeysuckle, lemon zest, and orange rind characteristics in a crisp, medium-bodied, surprisingly textured yet elegant, fresh style. Enjoy it over the next 12-18 months. (6/30/2005)"


    Que bueno!

    M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

    last Friday I sampled a dozen bottles--we have tastings at the office every week. they were all from area winemakers near Seattle. they were consistently GREAT! the three I grabbed leftovers from were Pleasant Hill's Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve, 2002, and Lemberger, 2003; and Willis Hall's Nebbiolo, 2003.

    Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

    five months pass...
    http://www.weimax.com/images/Olivet_lane_Pinot.gif

    gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 6 February 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)

    Thresher in the UK has a 3 for 3 offer on all its wines, and last night I discovered that the Zenato brand Valpolicella they sell is excellent - very full and fruity but really balanced.

    Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 6 February 2006 18:17 (twenty years ago)

    Zenato brand Valpolicella

    This is good stuff - we had a bottle a few nights back. Cost Plus used to sell it in the US, around $7/bottle. Another nice inexpensive italian wine is A-Mano Primitivo if you can find it.

    We've been drinking Red Truck from Cline as a standard - about $8/bottle here, as well as various lembergers from Kiona and Covey Run.

    Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 6 February 2006 18:40 (twenty years ago)

    Argentine wine is great value here in Miami.

    Here's a weird one I liked a lot:

    Medanos from Mendoza (but not Malbec, it's a Bonarda/Tempranillo) 2003 $8
    really bright but full-flavored. jolly. I hate thick and jammy or overly oaked wine

    Thea (Thea), Monday, 6 February 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

    Thresher in the UK has a 3 for 3 offer on all its wines

    generous!

    we sampled seven different south african reds last week. they were all rubbish. never again.

    toby (tsg20), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:32 (twenty years ago)

    the cheep stuff

    Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:34 (twenty years ago)

    I think the Medanos was organic, as well. sort of interesting

    Thea (Thea), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

    Rasteau "Les Sambiches" 2000

    youn, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:57 (twenty years ago)

    I haven't had any of these, but...

    This from the Splendid Table :

    How Low Can You Go?
    February 4, 2006

    When it comes to cheap wine, Josh Wesson advises avoiding bottles more than three years old. "Age is not a virtue with cheap wine," he says. So just how low can you go? You won't go wrong with these picks from Josh priced well under $10.

    • Chuck Shaw's Shiraz from Trader Joe's for about $3 a bottle. Skip the Merlot, Cabernet and Chardonnay.
    • La Boca Chardonnay from Argentina is fresh, yummy, and also about $3 at Trader Joe's.
    • Casa Solar Tempranillo from Spain for about $6. Get the youngest possible (2003 should be available).
    • Viumanent, a wonderful Malbec from Argentina.
    • Willow Glen non-vintage tawny port from Australia. About $6
    • Barefoot Bubbly, a non-vintage sparkling wine from California, is one happy glass of fizz.

    gbx (skowly), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:10 (twenty years ago)

    I'd definitely agree about skipping the cabernet from Chuck Shaw. It was not even okay (I didn't expect it to be anything but okay for $2).

    Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:15 (twenty years ago)

    At my sister's this weekend, we had a 1997 Neyer merlot (given them by a winophile friend, probably a $30 or so bottle that had been well-cellared). It was smooth, still had decent fruit and some very obvious oak. Followed by a bottle of 2004 Little Penguin merlot (~$6), which was much the same, without the oak.

    And with dinner at the best Thai place in the US, a bottle of QbA Josef Leitz Rudesheimer Drachenstein Dragonstone 2004 (Rheingau), which was perfect with all manor of spicy Thai flavors.

    Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:27 (twenty years ago)

    err, make that manner

    Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

    otm about lotus of siam!

    having fun with stockholm cindy on stage (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:29 (twenty years ago)

    Thanks go to you JBR - I found out about it from your (and Ned's) posts about it! It was outstanding.

    Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:32 (twenty years ago)


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