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That's not too outrageous, Jeff.

My 2010 to date = four 30k trail races, three marathons, a 25k and a 60k... I think.

ilxor being real fucking helpful in this discussion (ilxor), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

May throw in a 50k in about 5-6 weeks if I'm feeling good, otherwise I'm going to call it a year.

ilxor being real fucking helpful in this discussion (ilxor), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:43 (fifteen years ago)

Considering I was not in the best shape for 26.2, I figure I can run an additional 5 miles with a little work.

50 mile in 2012.

Jeff, Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:46 (fifteen years ago)

i just read a lot of people saying not to run two days in a row, but it's not that practical, and i like the discipline of going a second day...

The current wisdom in training for races seems to be that you can improve more consistently by running less and at slower paces, not more and faster. But that advice is assuming your goal is to improve your race times and you're willing to plan your life around following that kind of training schedule. So in terms of race training, yeah, running on consecutive days is (apparently) a waste of effort, since it won't help you improve and it may cause overuse injuries. But I started running, for example, to lose weight. And so running four days a week instead of three benefits me because it's more calories burned.

You just have to make sure you're not overdoing it, especially if you haven't got six months to a year of weekly under your belt, which is about how long it takes the average person's body to adapt to running all the time. So they say "just listen to your body" but listening to your body is hard, especially if you have spent years ignoring it! That's something you have to learn how to do. You gotta pay attention to subtle sensations that are different for everyone and then know what they mean. It's almost harder than the actual running!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 16 October 2010 20:59 (fifteen years ago)

weekly running, that is.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Saturday, 16 October 2010 21:00 (fifteen years ago)

rocknroll marathon denver is done. i kept my target pace through about mile 17, then general fatigue and major foot pain started to set in. i think with electronic timing i was somewhere around 3:57. dont know if i wanna do that ever again.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:20 (fifteen years ago)

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/53377890

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Jealous of your time. Holy hell I need to be healthy again.

Jeff, Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:33 (fifteen years ago)

if you're pacing yourself correctly the first 10 miles feel way too slow and the classic error is to speed up because it feels easy

heh this happened me in the 1/2 mara in july

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 October 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

you will be healthy again and you are superbadass on the pain thing, so you will conquer. when my foot started to hurt, your travails came to mind and provided inspiration!

favorite sign from mile 12- "the reason your feet hurt is cuz youre kicking so much ass!"

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:00 (fifteen years ago)

ha, I saw that sign about 4 times during the Chicago marathon. It's a good one.

Detroit looks interesting, how it winds through the parks.

Jeff, Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

Are there hills?

Jeff, Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

i think with electronic timing i was somewhere around 3:57.

NICE!

dont know if i wanna do that ever again.

Hah, it takes about 2-3 days for the motivational wheels to start turning again after a race. You'll be back.

ilxor being real fucking helpful in this discussion (ilxor), Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

I ran a beautiful 14 miler this morning at about 10:10 avg pace -- took me 2:22 or so.

ilxor being real fucking helpful in this discussion (ilxor), Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:17 (fifteen years ago)

It really is an addiction. A painful addiction.

Jeff, Sunday, 17 October 2010 20:40 (fifteen years ago)

since im good at reciting my peeves:
1. loud slapping feet (overtaking me)
2. freshasadaisy relay runners (overtaking me)
3. little old ladies all bent over (overtaking me)

just kidding granny, love you lols

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

actually the ppls in cat one arent bad overtaking me, its when they right behind me all loud and shit

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

breathing hard

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

making me want to sprint or cry

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Sunday, 17 October 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)

when your target pace is too fast, and you start slightly too hard, your actual pacing chart does this red line thingy, more easily viewed as the blue line thingy. the green line is target pace. the yellow line is steady pace equivalent of my actual time.

http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/Chass3ur/Pace.jpg

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 17:02 (fifteen years ago)

ran 8k in a downpour today. it was gross but the actual running was weirdly a lot easier, maybe because all i could think was "OMG I AM SO DRENCHED THIS WEATHER IS HIDEOUS" there wasn't any room for my muscles or lungs to complain?

i did overtake someone going up a hill, that was good, though the sheets of rain blinding me made it impossible to tell whether they were an old granny that i shouldn't be proud of overtaking.

pet hates when out running are people who are ignorant of basic etiquette, who make no effort to stand aside so you have room to pass them. have genuinely got into shouting matches because of that in the past.

lex lex lex lex lex on the track BOW (lex pretend), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:04 (fifteen years ago)

i feel like this is unnecessary modern anger but god it drives me mental when that happens, today a woman was texting on her phone and looked up and saw me well in advance, she was completely in the way walking towards me on a v narrow street and she just kept texting. she didn't bother attempting to step out of the way, so i had to actually do that sort of staggering stop thing really quickly to avoid just running straight into her. i hate confrontation on the street but i did tell her to look where she's going.

also bikes on the canal...some dude cycled past me on the inside today when i was running under a bridge, no bell, just stealthily a bike just appears about a foot to my left between me and a wall...

also people who walk along the footpath entirely spread out so you can't get past

i luckily missed the downpour in the 45 minute window in between that crazy rain btw lex...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:32 (fifteen years ago)

I live next to some awesome running areas but the weekends can be hellish with the number of people walking slowly and the clusters of cyclists as well. I got out of the way for some of the latter a few weeks ago and wound up stepping wrongly in an uneven part of the grass and hurting my ankle, which is still recovering.

No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:34 (fifteen years ago)

Got my footpod today! Now if only I could run, I could start tracking my cadence.

Jeff, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 19:38 (fifteen years ago)

i agree on the congestion issue generally, but will add that hitting the bell on the bike when overtaking peds/runners presents its own risks actually- often when i ring or say 'on your left', it confuses the ped/runner who gets all squirrelly and behaves very unpredictably. ped/runner then moves left, NO RIGHT! SPIN! on busy paths, i always ring though. for little kids, i basically slow to walking, since no amount of explanation's gonna justify hitting a kid and their behavior is basically random.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 20:05 (fifteen years ago)

i think the bell is pretty good, can usually tell when the person is about to pass me. mind you i do have headphones in a lot, i usually try and give a glance or two over my shoulder every now and again.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

Per doc's orders, I'm out for 2 more weeks. My foot pain that I've had post marathon is just tendinitis. Just need to let it rest. This is going to suck.

Jeff, Wednesday, 20 October 2010 21:05 (fifteen years ago)

Signed up for the Wisconsin Marathon on May 7th. Really looking forward to this.

Jeff, Thursday, 21 October 2010 01:12 (fifteen years ago)

4.35 miles....longest run yet! felt like i could have kept going too...

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 21 October 2010 10:10 (fifteen years ago)

As a total amateur, I have a blister on my right big toe and on my right index toe. The former was actually created by a bandaid for the latter and bled, but I didn't feel it. This all happened because the elliptical trainer in my apartment building broke and we are waiting for parts. But I liked running instead. It is more taxing. But I haven't had the feeling of blissful exhaustion for ages.

Yesterday I took a walk in East Rock and saw many runners. One person seemed to be running in pain and his muttering and his gait seemed to contradict the picture of health that runners are supposed to represent. I saw two men running and they were talking and on top of the world. I saw a young woman with a black elastic thing all over one of her calves but she seemed steady and determined and not in pain.

youn, Friday, 22 October 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Running is good for ppl watching. I look at peoples form. There is this woman that runs down my street that runs on her toes. Not just a forefoot runner, her heels never touch the ground. So bizarre. That would kill my arches.

Jeff, Friday, 22 October 2010 23:02 (fifteen years ago)

5.31 miles in 47 minutes, aw yeah!

I see what this is (Local Garda), Saturday, 23 October 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

seeing unorthodox, absolutely bizarre, difficult looking, or even flatly _impossible_ running styles of other people is one of the undeniable charms of running a marathon. what's great is that these are people dropping my ass.

my stomach is full of anger. and pie. (Hunt3r), Saturday, 23 October 2010 13:38 (fifteen years ago)

first run since marathon, 4 miles. considering post event foot pain for 10 days, was totally psyched that run was pain free.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:10 (fifteen years ago)

I can run on Wednesday. This is good news. Will have been 2 weeks. I've only run 36 miles in October. 26 of which was at one time.

Jeff, Saturday, 30 October 2010 17:12 (fifteen years ago)

fair play LG!

ran my first 5k since july this week, and just dropped 120 quid on new balance trainers- kickstart back into it imo

cant believe you sb'd me for that (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 October 2010 13:13 (fifteen years ago)

yeah i got trainers fitted yday, 80 quid.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Sunday, 31 October 2010 13:17 (fifteen years ago)

this is funny to me because when asked afterward how the marathon was, i'd say, "not too bad...except for mile 23 to 24-- that sucked!" they reduced my time by about a minute on the results page.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:51 (fifteen years ago)

So I didn't run for 18 days because of tendinitis in my foot. But the last 3 days I've gotten out there in it has felt OK. 3 miles on Saturday, 5 miles on Sunday, 1 mile on Monday. The 5 miles felt the best, I just felt like I was dialed into a slow and comfortable pace that I could have held for awhile. Still, I have the ITB pain on the right leg. Shit won't go away. It's been 6 months now.

Having a recorded gait analysis done on Saturday, video to be posted.

Jeff, Thursday, 11 November 2010 01:14 (fifteen years ago)

im sorry to hear about itb. the answer has to be out there, hope gait analysis helps.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Thursday, 11 November 2010 03:55 (fifteen years ago)

Been out of action for a while with a chest infection...itching to go again but the infection came on the day of a run so I prob should hold off.

I see what this is (Local Garda), Thursday, 11 November 2010 10:03 (fifteen years ago)

been steady runnin, as usual
weather has been so totally awesome as of late that i just really have nothing to say
my neighbor (female, croatian) complimented my legs two days ago, that's gotta be worth something

The Great Jumanji, (La Lechera), Thursday, 11 November 2010 21:11 (fifteen years ago)

doing a 6 mile wilderness trail run/race on sunday. totally excited as i have never really done a train run before. weather looks great for that day too.

http://www.ilxor.com/glyloop.mp3 (Aerosol), Friday, 12 November 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Run Through Winding Wooded Trails, steep gullies, foot bridges, small streams, fallen trees, dramatic Cedar Forest and beautiiful natural wetlands.

http://www.ilxor.com/glyloop.mp3 (Aerosol), Friday, 12 November 2010 15:55 (fifteen years ago)

Who in this bitch is getting a video gait analysis today? ME. I'm going to add a bitching soundtrack to it.

Jeff, Saturday, 13 November 2010 14:00 (fifteen years ago)

if they ask you to trot canter and gallop, you're in the wrong joint.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 November 2010 15:58 (fifteen years ago)

i think i found the right road shoe *joy*. never thought i'd be excited about that. of course, new balance already doesn't make it anymore, but i can buy like 3 pairs for later i guess.

potholes and esso assos (Hunt3r), Saturday, 13 November 2010 20:36 (fifteen years ago)

I don't know if I mentioned it before, but I'm running in Newton Gravitas Trainers now. I like them a lot so far. No idea what they are doing for my form, but they feel great while running.

Jeff, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:06 (fifteen years ago)

Here's a poll! Running during winter time -- does this sound sane?
I've been doing this, more or less regularly, for years, despite the constant "hunch" of being considered a running geek, hmm.

Mart, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:10 (fifteen years ago)

I hope to run more this winter. I signed up for a spring marathon, so I better be running leading up to it.

Jeff, Saturday, 13 November 2010 21:12 (fifteen years ago)


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