Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

the hooters article takes pretty much the same stance that right-on sites/mags like jezebel would take

Yeah, it's an issue where feminists and right-wing moralists overlap.

l.jones almost certainly considers herself more the former than the latter

for totally different reasons?

besides, i dunno if "jezebel" or any of the writers therein would really take that line. old-line 2nd wave feminists probably would, more likely (stereotypically)

personally i'm not sure why the idea of hooters grosses me out more than the idea of just a straight up strip club. maybe the addition of fast food. least sexy thing ever.

for totally different reasons?

yeah, liz jones's reasons as stated (not v well) in that article are explicitly on the feminist side though - "financially hard up women being objectified and exploited" rather than "look at those brazen hussies"

though i thought the bit about interviewing a playboy bunny in the 70s was probably the most on-point paragraph liz jones has written in years and years (maybe ever)

half her questions to those waitresses (skimmed it tbh) look like "DOES YOUR MAN KNOW WHERE YOU ARE??"

she seems less feminist and just, like, really dumb

lol there's even a line about tipping in there, perfect

i guess i'm not surprised this is the first hooters to open in the UK. pretty sure britishers are into boobs, but chicken wings?

she is pretty dumb, but that's secondary to her being completely insane

is she the token lefty or something?

or is there a whole genre of posh women for whom 'feminism' is not verboten, but expressed in an essentially clueless right-wing controlling kind of way? eg "all of the women i went to school with are now begging their husbands for plastic surgery! it is ghastly and i for one disapprove"

Liz Jones is a law unto herself. Not really accurate to call her left-wing, right-wing, feminist or anything really. As long as she gets to disapprove of other women then the ideology doesn't matter.

^^^^yes. she's the token lunatic (though i'm sure she thinks she's a feminist).

"betraying the cause", "you're a whore", all the same really

'horse' would rhyme, though.

But while there was something tongue-in-cheek and marginally glamorous about the bunny outfit
This is bullshit really. In fact they are remarkably similar, especially the nylon hotpants and tights combo. And they got paid similar wages.

There was a Hooters in Brum a few years back but it closed due to being completely horrible. Back in those days you could get a topless haircut in Birmingham as well I seem to remember.

like to go to a fancy dress party as a monk or something?

the hooters article takes pretty much the same stance that right-on sites/mags like jezebel would take

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:08 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I read a couplathree Jezebel pieces on Hooters a while back (there's one due to open up in Cardiff, which sparked a week or so of Facebook/blog-contained kerfuffle from various friends of mine + inevitable troll-y counter-groups) and iirc this was pretty much the case, minus actually going to one for the purpose of condescending towards the employees

I think most of us would be pretty much in agreement that Hooters is kind of gross and weird? Our particular takes would still be lacking the singular lunacy of Liz, though.

Back in those days you could get a topless haircut in Birmingham as well I seem to remember

They used to have one of these in Paisley when I was working on a New Deal programme trying to get unemployed teenagers into work. Guess where EVERY SINGLE BLOKE ON THE COURSE used as their first speculative letter seeking employment?

I don't find Hooters particularly gross or weird. Liz Jones, on the other hand...

Ah, the thought of my barber topless - tbh it would be a kindness if he stabbed me in the eyes with his rusty scissors.

I think most of us would be pretty much in agreement that Hooters is kind of gross and weird?

eh probably - people's ~heated debates~ over it seem to be more "let the baby have its bottle y/n?" (pun intended tbh)

Two-suspects-aged-16-21-held-businesswoman-battered-death.html.

um, the point being?

yeah I was gonna say, what are we supposed to be lampooning here - the last paragraph...?

It seems a reasonably written story, even going so far as discounting the old 'honour killing' as a valid motivation.

The 'friend' who said "This did not always sit well with some parts of the family" seems like weasel words for 'dirty filthy medieval Muslim honour killing' to me.

Daily Mail not really known for using weasel words about such things. I think if they were seriously entertaining the possibility they'd be going in a lot harder, possibly with a big leading question of a headline.

On his Facebook page, rap music fan Usman Shahzad lists a string of violent films as his favourites, including The Football Factory, Scarface, The Godfather and Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

He likes The Godfather? What a psychopath.

Scene: Thames Valley Police outside the £600,000 house where company director Assia Shahzad, 40, was found brutally beaten

so important to keep track of the housing market when someone is battered to death

So, the Daily Mail, basically, has replaced the old "Mrs Tina Williams, 32" with "Mrs Tina Williams, who lives in a £600,000 house" thesedays.

Don't forget the privately educated girls from middle-class families who become prostitutes.

^dropped the bomb

hey what r u looking at these are difficult times

oh wait, was that in ref to the current article or just a DM trope?

LJ i'm never discussing prostitution with you. it's never gonna happen man. just let it go.

Don't know where to put this so I'm putting it here:

http://ifyoulikeitsomuchwhydontyougolivethere.com/the-twat-o-tron/

Look at that, one huge long table & not a glass or jug of water in sight, which only goes to show reptiles can go a long time without water, & miliband definately looks like a bleedin` Geko.

- finbar saunders, stuff the EU & the New World Order., 12/10/2010 21:04

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319882/Ed-Miliband-holds-Labour-shadow-cabinet-meeting-big-smiles.html

Chile is quite literally not in his backyard:

I don't know any of these people. Nor does anyone else in Britain. So why invest so much time and emotional energy in the fate of total strangers?

Littlejohn lives in Florida, so by his own argument, why should he care (or write about) what happens in the UK?

Preeeeeeeetty sure he doesn't.

Call me callous, but

Damn him for raving about Ace in the Hole though - it's one of my favourite films.

Oh god why did I have to read that.

Funny that he can't resist another whinge about health and safety at the end though. Hope he falls down a lift shaft.

'ghouls' as used by the big man here would imply that ppl were tuning in hoping that... they were gonna see someone die or something? I don't claim to have a working knowledge of the inside of the GBP's collective head but I'm preeeeeetty sure that wasn't the case by and large

Amazing health and safety whinge at the end there, IN THE SAME ARTICLE as him highlighting the poor, erm, health and safety on British building sites. Astonishing piece of doublethink there.

Otherwise, he isn't that far away from the line Morbs and LJ were taking on the other thread.

Kudos for finding the twisted logic necessary to argue that NOT caring about the plight of foreigners makes him morally superior to those who do.

Littlejohn lives in Florida, so by his own argument, why should he care (or write about) what happens in the UK?

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Friday, October 15, 2010 7:31 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Preeeeeeeetty sure he doesn't.

― Ain't Too Proud to Neg (Noodle Vague), Friday, October 15, 2010 7:32 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

He's got houses in Florida and London.

Pretty sure he doesn't care what happens in the UK, obv.